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Old 10-27-2004, 09:28 AM   #16
John Navas
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Re: More on Done DEAL


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In <20041027085936.22172.00002575@mb-m18.aol.com> on 27 Oct 2004 12:59:36 GMT,
jeffsnewjetta@aol.comnospam (Jeff Ream) wrote:

>>From: John Navas spamfilter0@navasgroup.com


>>take your off-topic criticism off the group.


>sorry sir it's not off topic.


Not true. The charter (which I wrote) clearly states (in part):

Inappropriate (banned) articles:
* Off-topic (not directly related to Cingular Wireless service)
* Personal insults or repetitive flaming (attacks)

Please respect it.

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Old 10-27-2004, 09:54 AM   #17
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Re: More on Done DEAL


In article <z8Pfd.1396$_3.22448@typhoon.sonic.net>,
John Navas <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote:

> [POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]
>
> In <20041027085936.22172.00002575@mb-m18.aol.com> on 27 Oct 2004 12:59:36 GMT,
> jeffsnewjetta@aol.comnospam (Jeff Ream) wrote:
>
> >>From: John Navas spamfilter0@navasgroup.com

>
> >>take your off-topic criticism off the group.

>
> >sorry sir it's not off topic.

>
> Not true. The charter (which I wrote) clearly states (in part):
>
> Inappropriate (banned) articles:
> * Off-topic (not directly related to Cingular Wireless service)
> * Personal insults or repetitive flaming (attacks)
>
> Please respect it.


Who makes YOU the master of USENET ??

This is an unmoderated group, and we've seen many posts the last few
days from folks that find YOU offensive.
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Old 10-27-2004, 10:52 AM   #18
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In <jzwick3-988498.10534427102004@news1.west.earthlink.net> on Wed, 27 Oct
2004 15:54:06 GMT, Jack Zwick <jzwick3@mindspring.com> wrote:

>In article <z8Pfd.1396$_3.22448@typhoon.sonic.net>,
> John Navas <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote:
>
>> [POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]
>>
>> In <20041027085936.22172.00002575@mb-m18.aol.com> on 27 Oct 2004 12:59:36 GMT,
>> jeffsnewjetta@aol.comnospam (Jeff Ream) wrote:
>>
>> >>From: John Navas spamfilter0@navasgroup.com

>>
>> >>take your off-topic criticism off the group.

>>
>> >sorry sir it's not off topic.

>>
>> Not true. The charter (which I wrote) clearly states (in part):
>>
>> Inappropriate (banned) articles:
>> * Off-topic (not directly related to Cingular Wireless service)
>> * Personal insults or repetitive flaming (attacks)
>>
>> Please respect it.

>
>Who makes YOU the master of USENET ??


I'm not I am the author of the charter and creator of this newsgroup.

>This is an unmoderated group, and we've seen many posts the last few
>days from folks that find YOU offensive.


Sadly, there seem to be a few bad apples in every Usenet barrel.

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Old 10-27-2004, 05:15 PM   #19
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Re: More on Done DEAL


In article <z8Pfd.1396$_3.22448@typhoon.sonic.net>,
John Navas <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote:

> >>take your off-topic criticism off the group.

>
> >sorry sir it's not off topic.

>
> Not true. The charter (which I wrote)


and which no one cares about....

So, John: more with the he said/she said? Which are you, pitcher or
catcher?

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Old 10-27-2004, 05:17 PM   #20
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Re: More on Done DEAL


In article <6nQfd.1414$_3.22595@typhoon.sonic.net>,
John Navas <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote:

> >Who makes YOU the master of USENET ??

>
> I'm not I am the author of the charter and creator of this newsgroup.


And you stand behind that as you come in here playing net-kop to try to
make things go YOUR way.

Which means you're trying to be the "master of USENET", as he said.

Tell us all, John: why does your charter matter? Why does the fact
that you went through the steps to create a newsgroup matter?

It doesn't. Anyone can create a newsgroup. Big deal. You're like the
slow kid who enjoys telling the world how he didn't fall out of bed this
morning.

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Old 10-27-2004, 05:24 PM   #21
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Re: More on Done DEAL


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In <elmop-22549C.19172827102004@text.usenetserver.com> on Wed, 27 Oct 2004
19:17:28 -0400, "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote:

>In article <6nQfd.1414$_3.22595@typhoon.sonic.net>,
> John Navas <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote:
>
>> >Who makes YOU the master of USENET ??

>>
>> I'm not I am the author of the charter and creator of this newsgroup.


>Tell us all, John: why does your charter matter?


Because it governs this newsgroup.

>Why does the fact
>that you went through the steps to create a newsgroup matter?


Because it otherwise wouldn't exist.

>It doesn't. Anyone can create a newsgroup. ...


So go do it. Instead of doing your best to trash this one.

Does being a jerk come naturally, or do you have to work at it?

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Old 10-27-2004, 05:25 PM   #22
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In <elmop-C33E7E.19152427102004@text.usenetserver.com> on Wed, 27 Oct 2004
19:15:24 -0400, "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote:

>In article <z8Pfd.1396$_3.22448@typhoon.sonic.net>,
> John Navas <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote:
>
>> >>take your off-topic criticism off the group.

>>
>> >sorry sir it's not off topic.

>>
>> Not true. The charter (which I wrote)

>
>and which no one cares about....


Correction: which you don't care about, because you have no respect for
others. Grow up.

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Old 10-27-2004, 05:32 PM   #23
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Re: More on Done DEAL


> "John Navas" <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote in message
> news:z8Pfd.1396$_3.22448@typhoon.sonic.net...
> [POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]
>
> In <20041027085936.22172.00002575@mb-m18.aol.com> on 27 Oct 2004 12:59:36
> GMT,
> jeffsnewjetta@aol.comnospam (Jeff Ream) wrote:
>
>>>From: John Navas spamfilter0@navasgroup.com

>
>>>take your off-topic criticism off the group.

>
>>sorry sir it's not off topic.

>
> Not true. The charter (which I wrote) clearly states (in part):
>
> Inappropriate (banned) articles:
> * Off-topic (not directly related to Cingular Wireless service)
> * Personal insults or repetitive flaming (attacks)
>
> Please respect it.
>
> --
> Best regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES:
> John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular>
>

UNMODERATED newsgroup. If you wish to control what is being said here
I suggest you create a MODERATED group.
The posts in this thread became an off-shoot of the original.
They are therefore, OT.
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Old 10-27-2004, 05:51 PM   #24
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In <_dWfd.52055$l07.39634@twister.nyroc.rr.com> on Wed, 27 Oct 2004 23:32:10
GMT, "Andy S" <adsisson@NOrochesterSPAM.rr.com> wrote:

>> "John Navas" <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote in message
>> news:z8Pfd.1396$_3.22448@typhoon.sonic.net...


>>... The charter (which I wrote) clearly states (in part):
>>
>> Inappropriate (banned) articles:
>> * Off-topic (not directly related to Cingular Wireless service)
>> * Personal insults or repetitive flaming (attacks)
>>
>> Please respect it.


>UNMODERATED newsgroup. If you wish to control what is being said here
>I suggest you create a MODERATED group.
>The posts in this thread became an off-shoot of the original.
>They are therefore, OT.


Does being a jerk come naturally, or do you have to work at it?

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Old 10-27-2004, 06:02 PM   #25
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Re: More on Done DEAL


>>> "John Navas" <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote in message
>>> news:z8Pfd.1396$_3.22448@typhoon.sonic.net...
>>>... The charter (which I wrote) clearly states (in part):
>>>
>>> Inappropriate (banned) articles:
>>> * Off-topic (not directly related to Cingular Wireless service)
>>> * Personal insults or repetitive flaming (attacks)
>>>
>>> Please respect it.

>> In <_dWfd.52055$l07.39634@twister.nyroc.rr.com> on Wed, 27 Oct 2004
>> 23:32:10
>> GMT, "Andy S" <adsisson@NOrochesterSPAM.rr.com> wrote:

>
>>UNMODERATED newsgroup. If you wish to control what is being said here
>>I suggest you create a MODERATED group.
>>The posts in this thread became an off-shoot of the original.
>>They are therefore, OT.

>
> "John Navas" <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote in message
> news:GvWfd.1492$_3.23056@typhoon.sonic.net...
> [POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]
> Does being a jerk come naturally, or do you have to work at it?
>
> --
> Best regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES:
> John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular>
>

I am not trying to be a jerk. I'm just trying to point out that this group
is UNmonderated and that you don't need to be playing the
part of moderator. It also seems to me that the thread that we
are referencing here IS part of the original and is, therefore, on topic.
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Old 10-27-2004, 06:08 PM   #26
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In <PGWfd.52221$l07.20501@twister.nyroc.rr.com> on Thu, 28 Oct 2004 00:02:55
GMT, "Andy S" <adsisson@NOrochesterSPAM.rr.com> wrote:

>>>> "John Navas" <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:z8Pfd.1396$_3.22448@typhoon.sonic.net...
>>>>... The charter (which I wrote) clearly states (in part):
>>>>
>>>> Inappropriate (banned) articles:
>>>> * Off-topic (not directly related to Cingular Wireless service)
>>>> * Personal insults or repetitive flaming (attacks)
>>>>
>>>> Please respect it.
>>> In <_dWfd.52055$l07.39634@twister.nyroc.rr.com> on Wed, 27 Oct 2004
>>> 23:32:10
>>> GMT, "Andy S" <adsisson@NOrochesterSPAM.rr.com> wrote:

>>
>>>UNMODERATED newsgroup. If you wish to control what is being said here
>>>I suggest you create a MODERATED group.
>>>The posts in this thread became an off-shoot of the original.
>>>They are therefore, OT.

>>
>> "John Navas" <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote in message
>> news:GvWfd.1492$_3.23056@typhoon.sonic.net...


>> Does being a jerk come naturally, or do you have to work at it?


>I am not trying to be a jerk. I'm just trying to point out that this group
>is UNmonderated and that you don't need to be playing the
>part of moderator.


I'm not. I'm politely asking people to respect the charter. Do you even know
what moderation is?

>It also seems to me that the thread that we
>are referencing here IS part of the original and is, therefore, on topic.


This meta discussion is clearly off-topic. Read the charter. Off-shoots
(your term) are not exempt from being on-topic.

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Old 10-27-2004, 10:14 PM   #27
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then take your off topic "i;m right you're wrong" elsewhere.


IMO, neither of you are right.


>Subject: Re: More on Done DEAL
>From: John Navas spamfilter0@navasgroup.com
>Date: 10/27/2004 11:28 AM Eastern Standard Time
>Message-id: <z8Pfd.1396$_3.22448@typhoon.sonic.net>
>
>[POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]
>
>In <20041027085936.22172.00002575@mb-m18.aol.com> on 27 Oct 2004 12:59:36
>GMT,
>jeffsnewjetta@aol.comnospam (Jeff Ream) wrote:
>
>>>From: John Navas spamfilter0@navasgroup.com

>
>>>take your off-topic criticism off the group.

>
>>sorry sir it's not off topic.

>
>Not true. The charter (which I wrote) clearly states (in part):
>
> Inappropriate (banned) articles:
> * Off-topic (not directly related to Cingular Wireless service)
> * Personal insults or repetitive flaming (attacks)
>
>Please respect it.
>
>--
>Best regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES:
>John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular>
>
>
>
>
>
>



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Old 10-27-2004, 10:15 PM   #28
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then practice what you preach.



i'vbe followed the newsgroups for a long time, and you make some of the Sprint
trolls look bad.


as someone who worked both places, as well as Vanguard before AWS bought them,
i'm placed with many people who really know.


and you don't.


>Subject: Re: More on Done DEAL
>From: John Navas spamfilter0@navasgroup.com
>Date: 10/27/2004 12:52 PM Eastern Standard Time
>Message-id: <6nQfd.1414$_3.22595@typhoon.sonic.net>
>
>[POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]
>
>In <jzwick3-988498.10534427102004@news1.west.earthlink.net> on Wed, 27 Oct
>2004 15:54:06 GMT, Jack Zwick <jzwick3@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
>>In article <z8Pfd.1396$_3.22448@typhoon.sonic.net>,
>> John Navas <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote:
>>
>>> [POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]
>>>
>>> In <20041027085936.22172.00002575@mb-m18.aol.com> on 27 Oct 2004 12:59:36

>GMT,
>>> jeffsnewjetta@aol.comnospam (Jeff Ream) wrote:
>>>
>>> >>From: John Navas spamfilter0@navasgroup.com
>>>
>>> >>take your off-topic criticism off the group.
>>>
>>> >sorry sir it's not off topic.
>>>
>>> Not true. The charter (which I wrote) clearly states (in part):
>>>
>>> Inappropriate (banned) articles:
>>> * Off-topic (not directly related to Cingular Wireless service)
>>> * Personal insults or repetitive flaming (attacks)
>>>
>>> Please respect it.

>>
>>Who makes YOU the master of USENET ??

>
>I'm not I am the author of the charter and creator of this newsgroup.
>
>>This is an unmoderated group, and we've seen many posts the last few
>>days from folks that find YOU offensive.

>
>Sadly, there seem to be a few bad apples in every Usenet barrel.
>
>--
>Best regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES:
>John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular>
>
>
>
>
>
>



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Old 10-27-2004, 10:16 PM   #29
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Re: More on Done DEAL


he just followed your lead.


>Subject: Re: More on Done DEAL
>From: John Navas spamfilter0@navasgroup.com
>Date: 10/27/2004 7:51 PM Eastern Standard Time
>Message-id: <GvWfd.1492$_3.23056@typhoon.sonic.net>
>
>[POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]
>
>In <_dWfd.52055$l07.39634@twister.nyroc.rr.com> on Wed, 27 Oct 2004 23:32:10
>GMT, "Andy S" <adsisson@NOrochesterSPAM.rr.com> wrote:
>
>>> "John Navas" <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote in message
>>> news:z8Pfd.1396$_3.22448@typhoon.sonic.net...

>
>>>... The charter (which I wrote) clearly states (in part):
>>>
>>> Inappropriate (banned) articles:
>>> * Off-topic (not directly related to Cingular Wireless service)
>>> * Personal insults or repetitive flaming (attacks)
>>>
>>> Please respect it.

>
>>UNMODERATED newsgroup. If you wish to control what is being said here
>>I suggest you create a MODERATED group.
>>The posts in this thread became an off-shoot of the original.
>>They are therefore, OT.

>
>Does being a jerk come naturally, or do you have to work at it?
>
>--
>Best regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES:
>John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular>
>
>
>
>
>
>



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Old 10-28-2004, 04:30 AM   #30
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Re: More on Done DEAL


In article <dMWfd.1495$_3.23014@typhoon.sonic.net>,
John Navas <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote:

> >I am not trying to be a jerk. I'm just trying to point out that this group
> >is UNmonderated and that you don't need to be playing the
> >part of moderator.

>
> I'm not. I'm politely asking people to respect the charter.


Yeah. Every time you turn around. And you never fail to mention that
you created the newsgroup.

Just what ARE you trying to accomplish?

I know: nothing more than blowing your own horn, talking for the sake
of hearing your own voice. It's your favorite thing in the world.

Nobody cares, John. Accept it and move on.

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