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  1. #1
    Jack Zwick
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    Cingular has had since March to prepare for the ATTWS takeover, but it's
    acting like it was a surprise.

    Read the www.newcingular.com website and it basically says CHECK BACK
    Nov. 10 and maybe we'll say something about doing something by
    Christmas. Drive by an ATTWS store and you'd never know there was a
    merger.

    Compare and contrast this with CVS buying out Eckerd drugs. Eckerd drug
    stores closed or converted to CVS stores almost instantly.



    See More: While Cingular slept




  2. #2
    Scott Stephenson
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    Re: While Cingular slept


    "Jack Zwick" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > Cingular has had since March to prepare for the ATTWS takeover, but it's
    > acting like it was a surprise.
    >
    > Read the www.newcingular.com website and it basically says CHECK BACK
    > Nov. 10 and maybe we'll say something about doing something by
    > Christmas. Drive by an ATTWS store and you'd never know there was a
    > merger.
    >
    > Compare and contrast this with CVS buying out Eckerd drugs. Eckerd drug
    > stores closed or converted to CVS stores almost instantly.


    And your point? Anything more than whining about your current provider, or
    are you trying to sound like you know how a merger of this nature occurs?
    We all know that not to be the case, as you have always inflated your
    claims, bent the truth and spoke of things about which you have no
    knowledge.





  3. #3
    Jer
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    Re: While Cingular slept

    Jack Zwick wrote:

    > Cingular has had since March to prepare for the ATTWS takeover, but it's
    > acting like it was a surprise.
    >
    > Read the www.newcingular.com website and it basically says CHECK BACK
    > Nov. 10 and maybe we'll say something about doing something by
    > Christmas. Drive by an ATTWS store and you'd never know there was a
    > merger.
    >
    > Compare and contrast this with CVS buying out Eckerd drugs. Eckerd drug
    > stores closed or converted to CVS stores almost instantly.



    Come on Jack, this comparison of yours is so far out of line as to be
    laughable.

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  4. #4
    Jack Zwick
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    Re: While Cingular slept

    In article <[email protected]>, Jer <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    > Jack Zwick wrote:
    >
    > > Cingular has had since March to prepare for the ATTWS takeover, but it's
    > > acting like it was a surprise.
    > >
    > > Read the www.newcingular.com website and it basically says CHECK BACK
    > > Nov. 10 and maybe we'll say something about doing something by
    > > Christmas. Drive by an ATTWS store and you'd never know there was a
    > > merger.
    > >
    > > Compare and contrast this with CVS buying out Eckerd drugs. Eckerd drug
    > > stores closed or converted to CVS stores almost instantly.

    >
    >
    > Come on Jack, this comparison of yours is so far out of line as to be
    > laughable.


    Go by an AT&TWS store, and an Eckerd store and see.



  5. #5
    John S.
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    Re: While Cingular slept

    >Go by an AT&TWS store, and an Eckerd store and see.
    >


    The Eckard store here close to this house still says Eckard on all the signs.
    The only difference was a dry ***** in our ability to buy beer from the store
    while they applied for the necessary liscences for the new owners.

    No other changes have taken place.

    I'll try to get by an AT&T store later today and let you know what I see there!


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  6. #6
    Jer
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    Re: While Cingular slept

    Jack Zwick wrote:

    > In article <[email protected]>, Jer <[email protected]>
    > wrote:
    >
    >
    >>Jack Zwick wrote:
    >>
    >>
    >>>Cingular has had since March to prepare for the ATTWS takeover, but it's
    >>>acting like it was a surprise.
    >>>
    >>>Read the www.newcingular.com website and it basically says CHECK BACK
    >>>Nov. 10 and maybe we'll say something about doing something by
    >>>Christmas. Drive by an ATTWS store and you'd never know there was a
    >>>merger.
    >>>
    >>>Compare and contrast this with CVS buying out Eckerd drugs. Eckerd drug
    >>>stores closed or converted to CVS stores almost instantly.

    >>
    >>
    >>Come on Jack, this comparison of yours is so far out of line as to be
    >>laughable.

    >
    >
    > Go by an AT&TWS store, and an Eckerd store and see.



    I'm sorry you've missed my point, so allow me the opportunity to sharpen
    it a bit... A drug store chain and a wireless communication company are
    two entirely different kettles of fish on more points than you can count
    on hands and feet. While the necessary changes inside each would be
    significant, a wireless operation like Cingular and ATTWS are a hundred
    fold more complicated. Personally, I'd be absolutely amazed if the
    dictintions between these two major players are gone in anything less
    than a year, or even two. OTOH, you're welcome to continue with this
    absurd comparative of yours while the rest of us continue to laugh hard
    enough to piss in our pants.

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  7. #7
    John Navas
    Guest

    Re: While Cingular slept

    [POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]

    In <[email protected]> on Sat, 30 Oct
    2004 21:27:24 GMT, Jack Zwick <[email protected]> wrote:

    >Cingular has had since March to prepare for the ATTWS takeover, but it's
    >acting like it was a surprise.


    Cingular has actually moved with great speed, rebranding, changing networks,
    etc.

    >Read the www.newcingular.com website and it basically says CHECK BACK
    >Nov. 10


    True. Which is very fast.

    >and maybe we'll say something about doing something by
    >Christmas.


    What it actually says: "Our goal is to have it available to you by this
    holiday season." I expect that to be well before Christmas, perhaps even
    before Thanksgiving. Time will tell.

    >Drive by an ATTWS store and you'd never know there was a
    >merger.


    You will know if you go inside. Changing signs takes time, and can be
    disruptive.

    >Compare and contrast this with CVS buying out Eckerd drugs. Eckerd drug
    >stores closed or converted to CVS stores almost instantly.


    Apples and oranges.

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  8. #8
    Jack Zwick
    Guest

    Re: While Cingular slept

    In article <[email protected]>,
    John Navas <[email protected]> wrote:

    > [POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]
    >
    > In <[email protected]> on Sat, 30 Oct
    > 2004 21:27:24 GMT, Jack Zwick <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    > >Cingular has had since March to prepare for the ATTWS takeover, but it's
    > >acting like it was a surprise.

    >
    > Cingular has actually moved with great speed, rebranding, changing networks,
    > etc.


    Baloney. Go by any AT&T Wireless store. Not a Cingular logo anywhere.

    >
    > >Read the www.newcingular.com website and it basically says CHECK BACK
    > >Nov. 10

    >
    > True. Which is very fast.


    They had 6 months to get ready, and now its maybe Nov. 10 they'll tell
    you when in Holiday season??

    >
    > >and maybe we'll say something about doing something by
    > >Christmas.

    >
    > What it actually says: "Our goal is to have it available to you by this
    > holiday season." I expect that to be well before Christmas, perhaps even
    > before Thanksgiving. Time will tell.
    >
    > >Drive by an ATTWS store and you'd never know there was a
    > >merger.

    >
    > You will know if you go inside. Changing signs takes time, and can be
    > disruptive.


    I went inside, it's 100% unchanged.

    >
    > >Compare and contrast this with CVS buying out Eckerd drugs. Eckerd drug
    > >stores closed or converted to CVS stores almost instantly.

    >
    > Apples and oranges.


    Buyout and buyout. Quick changeover vs No changeover yet.



  9. #9
    Jack Zwick
    Guest

    Re: While Cingular slept

    In article <[email protected]>, Jer <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    > Jack Zwick wrote:
    >
    > > In article <[email protected]>, Jer <[email protected]>
    > > wrote:
    > >
    > >
    > >>Jack Zwick wrote:
    > >>
    > >>
    > >>>Cingular has had since March to prepare for the ATTWS takeover, but it's
    > >>>acting like it was a surprise.
    > >>>
    > >>>Read the www.newcingular.com website and it basically says CHECK BACK
    > >>>Nov. 10 and maybe we'll say something about doing something by
    > >>>Christmas. Drive by an ATTWS store and you'd never know there was a
    > >>>merger.
    > >>>
    > >>>Compare and contrast this with CVS buying out Eckerd drugs. Eckerd drug
    > >>>stores closed or converted to CVS stores almost instantly.
    > >>
    > >>
    > >>Come on Jack, this comparison of yours is so far out of line as to be
    > >>laughable.

    > >
    > >
    > > Go by an AT&TWS store, and an Eckerd store and see.

    >
    >
    > I'm sorry you've missed my point, so allow me the opportunity to sharpen
    > it a bit... A drug store chain and a wireless communication company are
    > two entirely different kettles of fish on more points than you can count
    > on hands and feet.


    It's exactly the same procedure to hang a Cingular sign on top of an
    AT&T Wireless sign as it is to hang a CVS sign over an Eckerd sign.




    > While the necessary changes inside each would be
    > significant, a wireless operation like Cingular and ATTWS are a hundred
    > fold more complicated.


    Fine but on DAY 1, Cingular was unprepared. CVS wasn't.



    > Personally, I'd be absolutely amazed if the
    > dictintions between these two major players are gone in anything less
    > than a year, or even two. OTOH, you're welcome to continue with this
    > absurd comparative of yours while the rest of us continue to laugh hard
    > enough to piss in our pants.




  10. #10
    Jack Zwick
    Guest

    Re: While Cingular slept

    In article <[email protected]>,
    [email protected]pamfree (John S.) wrote:

    > >Go by an AT&TWS store, and an Eckerd store and see.
    > >

    >
    > The Eckard store here close to this house still says Eckard on all the signs.
    > The only difference was a dry ***** in our ability to buy beer from the store
    > while they applied for the necessary liscences for the new owners.
    >
    > No other changes have taken place.
    >
    > I'll try to get by an AT&T store later today and let you know what I see
    > there!



    In Texas Eckerd stores are either:

    closed empty shells, with all signage gone, and merchandize now
    being closed out at BIG LOTS or

    are now CVS stores, with all Eckerd signage gone, or hidden behind CVS
    signs.


    ===


    AT&TWS stores are unchanged, still selling 1900 MHz only phones for
    AT&TWS plans.



  11. #11
    Scott Stephenson
    Guest

    Re: While Cingular slept


    "Jack Zwick" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > In article <[email protected]>,
    > [email protected]pamfree (John S.) wrote:
    >
    > > >Go by an AT&TWS store, and an Eckerd store and see.
    > > >

    > >
    > > The Eckard store here close to this house still says Eckard on all the

    signs.
    > > The only difference was a dry ***** in our ability to buy beer from the

    store
    > > while they applied for the necessary liscences for the new owners.
    > >
    > > No other changes have taken place.
    > >
    > > I'll try to get by an AT&T store later today and let you know what I see
    > > there!

    >
    >
    > In Texas Eckerd stores are either:
    >
    > closed empty shells, with all signage gone, and merchandize now
    > being closed out at BIG LOTS or
    >
    > are now CVS stores, with all Eckerd signage gone, or hidden behind CVS
    > signs.
    >
    >
    > ===
    >
    >
    > AT&TWS stores are unchanged, still selling 1900 MHz only phones for
    > AT&TWS plans.


    One thing that your lunatic rantings fail to consider- Cingular is still
    marketing under both brands.





  12. #12
    Jerome Zelinske
    Guest

    Re: While Cingular slept

    Who cares if it takes days, weeks or months. It is no big deal. Get
    over it.

    Jack Zwick wrote:
    > In article <[email protected]>,
    > John Navas <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >
    >>[POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]
    >>
    >>In <[email protected]> on Sat, 30 Oct
    >>2004 21:27:24 GMT, Jack Zwick <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>
    >>
    >>>Cingular has had since March to prepare for the ATTWS takeover, but it's
    >>>acting like it was a surprise.

    >>
    >>Cingular has actually moved with great speed, rebranding, changing networks,
    >>etc.

    >
    >
    > Baloney. Go by any AT&T Wireless store. Not a Cingular logo anywhere.
    >
    >
    >>>Read the www.newcingular.com website and it basically says CHECK BACK
    >>>Nov. 10

    >>
    >>True. Which is very fast.

    >
    >
    > They had 6 months to get ready, and now its maybe Nov. 10 they'll tell
    > you when in Holiday season??
    >
    >
    >>>and maybe we'll say something about doing something by
    >>>Christmas.

    >>
    >>What it actually says: "Our goal is to have it available to you by this
    >>holiday season." I expect that to be well before Christmas, perhaps even
    >>before Thanksgiving. Time will tell.
    >>
    >>
    >>>Drive by an ATTWS store and you'd never know there was a
    >>>merger.

    >>
    >>You will know if you go inside. Changing signs takes time, and can be
    >>disruptive.

    >
    >
    > I went inside, it's 100% unchanged.
    >
    >
    >>>Compare and contrast this with CVS buying out Eckerd drugs. Eckerd drug
    >>>stores closed or converted to CVS stores almost instantly.

    >>
    >>Apples and oranges.

    >
    >
    > Buyout and buyout. Quick changeover vs No changeover yet.




  13. #13
    Desi
    Guest

    Re: While Cingular slept

    Wrong - in the DFW area Eckerds Stores still have the Eckerd's signs and
    none have closed yet.


    "Jack Zwick" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > In article <[email protected]>,
    > [email protected]pamfree (John S.) wrote:
    >
    > > >Go by an AT&TWS store, and an Eckerd store and see.
    > > >

    > >
    > > The Eckard store here close to this house still says Eckard on all the

    signs.
    > > The only difference was a dry ***** in our ability to buy beer from the

    store
    > > while they applied for the necessary liscences for the new owners.
    > >
    > > No other changes have taken place.
    > >
    > > I'll try to get by an AT&T store later today and let you know what I see
    > > there!

    >
    >
    > In Texas Eckerd stores are either:
    >
    > closed empty shells, with all signage gone, and merchandize now
    > being closed out at BIG LOTS or
    >
    > are now CVS stores, with all Eckerd signage gone, or hidden behind CVS
    > signs.
    >
    >
    > ===
    >
    >
    > AT&TWS stores are unchanged, still selling 1900 MHz only phones for
    > AT&TWS plans.



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  14. #14
    Jer
    Guest

    Re: While Cingular slept

    Jack Zwick wrote:


    >>I'm sorry you've missed my point, so allow me the opportunity to sharpen
    >>it a bit... A drug store chain and a wireless communication company are
    >>two entirely different kettles of fish on more points than you can count
    >>on hands and feet.

    >
    >
    > It's exactly the same procedure to hang a Cingular sign on top of an
    > AT&T Wireless sign as it is to hang a CVS sign over an Eckerd sign.


    Oh, okay, I now think it was me missing your point. All you're
    referring to is the external signage facing the street. Uh, yeah,
    anybody can splurg some orange and blue paint on a renegade sheet from
    the laundry pole. (I'd choose the pretty blue ones to save on paint)
    However, I'm unsure what value this superficial change may mean in the
    overall scheme of things, especially when one considers the major
    internal differences of the two companies.



    >>While the necessary changes inside each would be
    >>significant, a wireless operation like Cingular and ATTWS are a hundred
    >>fold more complicated.

    >
    >
    > Fine but on DAY 1, Cingular was unprepared. CVS wasn't.


    One hardly needs to look very deep to know that excrement occurs,
    despite best efforts - including your own. I don't think it's enough
    reason to rub salt into places it doesn't belong. Clearly, YMMV.


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  15. #15
    Jer
    Guest

    Re: While Cingular slept

    John Navas wrote:

    [....]

    >
    > Apples and oranges.
    >


    Considering the colour changes evident on Robby Gordon's #31 Chevy in
    today's Atlanta NASCAR race, I think grapes and oranges would be more
    appropriate. Sorry to be such a nit. <giggle>


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