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  1. #16
    John Navas
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    Re: GSM and AMPS/Analog?

    [POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]

    In <[email protected]> on Thu, 11 Nov 2004
    14:21:22 GMT, Jud Hardcastle <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    >When/if the rural carriers drop AMPS at the 2007 sunset Verizon is going
    >to loose their entire backup coverage. That's going to make a
    >significant drop in their published coverage--there's almost no CDMA
    >here once you leave the big cities. Are they going to offer CDMA/GSM
    >phones to US customers so users can roam on GSM-only carriers?


    That's an important point that most pundits seem to be missing.

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  2. #17
    Al Klein
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    Re: GSM and AMPS/Analog?

    On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 14:21:22 GMT, Jud Hardcastle
    <[email protected]> said in
    alt.cellular.cingular:

    >When/if the rural carriers drop AMPS at the 2007 sunset Verizon is going
    >to loose their entire backup coverage. That's going to make a
    >significant drop in their published coverage


    They already have a significant drop from published coverage in the 22
    system (NY Metro). They're oversold again. It's so bad this time
    that I'm biting the bullet and paying them the $350 to terminate both
    of my lines.



  3. #18
    Randy
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    Re: GSM and AMPS/Analog?

    OnStar is heading to CDMA and Verizon, not GSM:
    http://www.vzwshop.com/onstar/

    "Jer" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    >
    > In Cingular's case, most TDMA/Analog networks being converted to GSM are
    > accomplishing this by adding GSM radio frames. They turn off TDMA radios
    > and turn on GSM radios and modify their FCC license filings accordingly.
    > Oftentimes, the TDMA and GSM radio frames are two different brands, so
    > card sharing is impossible. Cingular has already stripped their urban
    > analog capacity to a bare-bones level, and thankfully GM's Onstar client
    > service is finally headed for GSM (other package tracking systems are
    > getting similar treatment).
    >






  4. #19
    Jer
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    Re: GSM and AMPS/Analog?

    Randy wrote:

    > OnStar is heading to CDMA and Verizon, not GSM:
    > http://www.vzwshop.com/onstar/


    I apologise for my own confusion. What I heard was OnStar (among other
    users) was moving to digital, and I mistakingly confused that with
    GSM/GPRS, because that same conversation also included FedEx plans
    converting to GSM/GPRS. My bad.


    >
    > "Jer" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    >
    >>In Cingular's case, most TDMA/Analog networks being converted to GSM are
    >>accomplishing this by adding GSM radio frames. They turn off TDMA radios
    >>and turn on GSM radios and modify their FCC license filings accordingly.
    >>Oftentimes, the TDMA and GSM radio frames are two different brands, so
    >>card sharing is impossible. Cingular has already stripped their urban
    >>analog capacity to a bare-bones level, and thankfully GM's Onstar client
    >>service is finally headed for GSM (other package tracking systems are
    >>getting similar treatment).
    >>




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  5. #20
    Jud Hardcastle
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    Re: GSM and AMPS/Analog?

    In article <[email protected]>, "Randy" <@> says...
    > OnStar is heading to CDMA and Verizon, not GSM:
    > http://www.vzwshop.com/onstar/
    >
    >
    >

    Actually I don't see anything there that's talking about the future just
    about the current systems and combined billing.

    CDMA has even LESS digital coverage in rural and small town America than
    current GSM. At least with GSM most of the small carriers that cover
    rural and under 20k towns will EVENTUALLY convert from TDMA to GSM which
    will expand GSM coverage back to approximately 100% coverage where AMPS
    is now. That's not going to happen with CDMA. If Onstar goes to CDMA
    they're going to loose even more renewals than their abysmal record now.
    Stupid move but with an existing Verizon deal they may do just that.
    --
    Jud
    Dallas TX USA



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