NEWS: Cingular now roaming on ATTWS!

DeronD wrote:
> That worked. I actually have service at my house!!!!!!! How come my
> motorola says "Cingular" and my Nokia says AT&T Wireless?
>
>

For some DCT3 and all new DCT4 Nokia phones, the phone will read special
instructions from the sim card. For cingular, the newer sim cards will
override the alpha tag so when your roaming on a network other than
Cingular it will appear as "Cinguler Extend". As you have seen some
older phones can't read this information as this GSM standard was
adopted after the firmware on are phone was released. Many DCT3 and
earlier phones will display the correct alpha tag.

On a side note, these older phones also can not read the information
from the sim that locks out the network selection menu so users with
these phones can manually select what network they are on. The bad news
is I don't of any of these phones that support 850mhz, but now that
Cingular customer's can roam on At&t's 1900 network, this isn't a problem.

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I'm in San Diego. At one location, sometimes, I get 5 bars, sometimes just
one bar. I used to get just one bar and the phone would at times go into
Cingular-Extend.


"DeronD" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Still waiting in San Diego to get more coverage. Oddly enough, AT&T is
> the only carrier that gets 2 or more bars in my house. Maybe this
> week.......
>
>
> "Alan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:<[email protected]>...
>> "John Navas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>> > As of this morning, here in Northern California at least, Cingular
>> subscribers
>> > now have free roaming on the ATTWS network -- I currently have 5 bars
>> > of
>> ATTWS
>> > signal where yesterday I was only able to get 1 bar of Cingular signal!
>> > --
>> > Best regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES:
>> > John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular>
>>
>> And I now get 5 bars of Cingular Extended where I previously had No
>> Service.

>>T-Mob is also still selling phones without GSM850.
>
>True.

They are a 1900MHz only carrier so why would they care about the 800MHz (not
850 people) band. Unless they come up with a really GREAT roaming agreement
with someone that has a LOT of 800 (Cingular maybe) they won't care.




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In <[email protected]> on 13 Nov 2004 23:01:13 GMT,
[email protected]pamfree (John S.) wrote:

>>>T-Mob is also still selling phones without GSM850.
>>
>>True.
>
>They are a 1900MHz only carrier so why would they care about the 800MHz (not
>850 people) band.

It's called GSM 850.

>Unless they come up with a really GREAT roaming agreement
>with someone that has a LOT of 800 (Cingular maybe) they won't care.

True. That was my point.

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Some stuff has changed here in West Los Angeles as well. My display used to
say AT&T Wireless on my NEC 525. Now it says AT&T/Cingular. There is no
Cingular coverage at my home (up a canyon and I know exactly who has little
micro-towers around here). Looks like they changed the identifier around
here.

On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 21:54:38 -0800, "Halogen8" <[email protected]>
said in alt.cellular.cingular:

>Is a SIM update similar to updating the PRL in Verizon phones?

A SIM update is taking out the old SIM and putting in a new one.

On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 23:22:43 GMT, "StevieD" <[email protected]> said
in alt.cellular.cingular:

>Some stuff has changed here in West Los Angeles as well. My display used to
>say AT&T Wireless on my NEC 525. Now it says AT&T/Cingular. There is no
>Cingular coverage at my home (up a canyon and I know exactly who has little
>micro-towers around here). Looks like they changed the identifier around
>here.

"AT&T" towers are giving you Cingular coverage, since Cingular owns
them (or, more properly, the radio equipment and lines on them) now.

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In <[email protected]> on Mon, 15 Nov 2004 00:54:19
GMT, Al Klein <[email protected]> wrote:

>On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 21:54:38 -0800, "Halogen8" <[email protected]>
>said in alt.cellular.cingular:
>
>>Is a SIM update similar to updating the PRL in Verizon phones?
>
>A SIM update is taking out the old SIM and putting in a new one.

SIM updates are commonly done by the carrier OTA (over the air).

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On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 10:45:23 GMT, John Navas
<[email protected]> said in alt.cellular.cingular:

>[POSTED TO alt.cellular.attws - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]
>
>In <[email protected]> on Mon, 15 Nov 2004 00:54:19
>GMT, Al Klein <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 21:54:38 -0800, "Halogen8" <[email protected]>
>>said in alt.cellular.cingular:
>>
>>>Is a SIM update similar to updating the PRL in Verizon phones?
>>
>>A SIM update is taking out the old SIM and putting in a new one.
>
>SIM updates are commonly done by the carrier OTA (over the air).

Oops, wrong "update". Supposedly, one can "update" the blue SIM to an
orange SIM, saving the customer the cost of a new phone. (In practice
it may not work because Cingular may not give out the code. May not -
I haven't had the need to try yet.)

On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 at 01:27 GMT, <[email protected]> wrote:

> Anyone know the roaming agreements (if any) between TMobile and Cingular?

Dunno, but when I was in Vegas a coupla months ago my easyspeak tmo
phone showed "cingular". No gprs.


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So can my Sony Ericsson Z600 when using an ATTWS SIM, but not when using a
Cingular SIM, because the carrier programming is different.

In <[email protected]> on Wed, 01 Dec 2004
13:44:38 GMT, "Stuart Friedman" <[email protected]> wrote:

>On my v600 (obviously not a Nokia), I can see networks which I don't have
>roaming privileges with.

>"R.M" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...

>> For some DCT3 and all new DCT4 Nokia phones, the phone will read special
>> instructions from the sim card. For cingular, the newer sim cards will
>> override the alpha tag so when your roaming on a network other than
>> Cingular it will appear as "Cinguler Extend". As you have seen some older
>> phones can't read this information as this GSM standard was adopted after
>> the firmware on are phone was released. Many DCT3 and earlier phones will
>> display the correct alpha tag.
>>
>> On a side note, these older phones also can not read the information from
>> the sim that locks out the network selection menu so users with these
>> phones can manually select what network they are on. The bad news is I
>> don't of any of these phones that support 850mhz, but now that Cingular
>> customer's can roam on At&t's 1900 network, this isn't a problem.
>>
>

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Best regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES:
John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular>