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- 11-16-2004, 04:19 PM #1Gary WarnerGuest
Now that Cingular bought AT&T WS, can I switch from an AT&T
plan to a Cingular plan without paying a new-service fee?
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- 11-16-2004, 05:32 PM #2Jack ZwickGuest
Re: Thinking of switching ATT to Cingular
In article <[email protected]>,
"Gary Warner" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Now that Cingular bought AT&T WS, can I switch from an AT&T
> plan to a Cingular plan without paying a new-service fee?
soon, but likely the clock will start over on a new 2 year plan, and in
many circumstance they may make you buy a new phone if your old phone
cant handle 800 Mhz.
- 11-17-2004, 09:28 AM #3RexYBlueGuest
Re: Thinking of switching ATT to Cingular
On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 23:32:14 GMT, Jack Zwick <[email protected]>
wrote:
>In article <[email protected]>,
> "Gary Warner" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>> Now that Cingular bought AT&T WS, can I switch from an AT&T
>> plan to a Cingular plan without paying a new-service fee?
>
>
>soon, but likely the clock will start over on a new 2 year plan, and in
>many circumstance they may make you buy a new phone if your old phone
>cant handle 800 Mhz.
You probably have to buy a new phone anyway, since almost all ATT
phones are locked. Cingular can't/won't unlock them. ATT won't.That,
or pay for a service such as gsmphonesource.com to unlock it.
- 11-17-2004, 09:52 AM #4John NavasGuest
Re: Thinking of switching ATT to Cingular
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In <[email protected]> on Tue, 16 Nov
2004 23:32:14 GMT, Jack Zwick <[email protected]> wrote:
>In article <[email protected]>,
> "Gary Warner" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Now that Cingular bought AT&T WS, can I switch from an AT&T
>> plan to a Cingular plan without paying a new-service fee?
>
>soon, but likely the clock will start over on a new 2 year plan,
Or 1-year plan.
>and in
>many circumstance they may make you buy a new phone if your old phone
>cant handle 800 Mhz.
You'll need a new phone in all circumstances.
--
Best regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES:
John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular>
- 11-17-2004, 06:18 PM #5Shaolin SuperflyGuest
Re: Thinking of switching ATT to Cingular
"Gary Warner" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> Now that Cingular bought AT&T WS, can I switch from an AT&T
> plan to a Cingular plan without paying a new-service fee?
The only fees involved in switching plans from AT&T to Cingular is an $18
"upgrade" fee. Cingular legacy customers pay the same fee when upgrading
their accounts and/or equipment. As of November 15th this fee is
non-negotiable and cannot be waived. Period.
There may be additional costs depending on the Cingular handset that you
choose. Yes, a new handset must be purchased due to the new 64k SIM and ENS
compatability requirements.
--
SS
- 11-18-2004, 10:52 AM #6John NavasGuest
Re: Thinking of switching ATT to Cingular
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In <[email protected]> on Wed, 17 Nov 2004 18:18:22 -0600,
"Shaolin Superfly" <[email protected]> wrote:
>The only fees involved in switching plans from AT&T to Cingular is an $18
>"upgrade" fee. Cingular legacy customers pay the same fee when upgrading
>their accounts and/or equipment. As of November 15th this fee is
>non-negotiable and cannot be waived. Period.
I personally think the fee is foolish and a bad sign for the future -- it
makes no sense to risk the merger by annoying customers the company badly
needs to keep with nickel and dime fees.
>There may be additional costs depending on the Cingular handset that you
>choose. Yes, a new handset must be purchased due to the new 64k SIM and ENS
>compatability requirements.
That rationale doesn't really hold water in my opinion. If a new 64K SIM with
ENS* were really "required," then Cingular would have to upgrade the bulk of
its existing customers as well, and that won't happen anytime soon either.
Again, I personally think this is foolish and a bad sign for the future -- it
would make more sense to expedite the full integration of the two networks.
* Enhanced Network Services, which extends GSM by making it possible for the
handset to effectively treat two different networks (ATTWS and Cingular) as
one combined Home network, so that the other network can be selected even when
the real Home network has a usable signal. (Without ENS, the handset will
only select the other network when the real Home network doesn't have a usable
signal, even when the other network has a better signal or when the real Home
network has run out of capacity.)
--
Best regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES:
John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular>
- 11-19-2004, 03:47 AM #7Elmo P. ShagnastyGuest
Re: Thinking of switching ATT to Cingular
In article <[email protected]>,
"Shaolin Superfly" <[email protected]> wrote:
> The only fees involved in switching plans from AT&T to Cingular is an $18
> "upgrade" fee. Cingular legacy customers pay the same fee when upgrading
> their accounts and/or equipment. As of November 15th this fee is
> non-negotiable and cannot be waived. Period.
ah, so the truth starts to come out.
Sorry, Cingular. I'll keep my blue plan.
I have a FAN account; I imagine that crap will go away when they
transition the FAN stuff over, but we'll see.
- 11-22-2004, 04:28 PM #8Eric van BezooijenGuest
Re: Thinking of switching ATT to Cingular
John Navas <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> [POSTED TO alt.cellular.attws - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]
>
> In <[email protected]> on Tue, 16 Nov
> 2004 23:32:14 GMT, Jack Zwick <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >In article <[email protected]>,
> > "Gary Warner" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> Now that Cingular bought AT&T WS, can I switch from an AT&T
> >> plan to a Cingular plan without paying a new-service fee?
> >
> >soon, but likely the clock will start over on a new 2 year plan,
>
> Or 1-year plan.
>
> >and in
> >many circumstance they may make you buy a new phone if your old phone
> >cant handle 800 Mhz.
>
> You'll need a new phone in all circumstances.
I was told that too. Which sucked, because I just got a new phone
from AT&T 2 months ago, and I have to pay $$$ to get another one.
-Eric
- 11-22-2004, 04:38 PM #9mhicaoidhGuest
Re: Thinking of switching ATT to Cingular
Taking a moment's reflection, Eric van Bezooijen mused:
|
| I was told that too. Which sucked, because I just got a new phone
| from AT&T 2 months ago, and I have to pay $$$ to get another one.
I believe Cingular has a "trade in" deal currently for qualifying
phones. For some reason, they didn't want my Nokia 3360. ;-)
- 11-22-2004, 09:28 PM #10Al KleinGuest
Re: Thinking of switching ATT to Cingular
On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 22:38:39 GMT, "mhicaoidh"
<®êmõvé_mhic_aoidh@hotÑîXmailŠPäM.com> said in alt.cellular.cingular:
>Taking a moment's reflection, Eric van Bezooijen mused:
>|
>| I was told that too. Which sucked, because I just got a new phone
>| from AT&T 2 months ago, and I have to pay $$$ to get another one.
>
> I believe Cingular has a "trade in" deal currently for qualifying
>phones.
They do.
- 12-01-2004, 07:39 AM #11Stuart FriedmanGuest
Re: Thinking of switching ATT to Cingular
That's great, but many of us have pretty new phones. I have an unlocked
v600 that I"m perfectly happy with and which Cingular currently sells. It
is silly to trade that in. Cingular has been known to do sim only
activations, why not on a transfer.
Stu
"Al Klein" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 22:38:39 GMT, "mhicaoidh"
> <®êmõvé_mhic_aoidh@hotÑîXmailSPäM.com> said in alt.cellular.cingular:
>
>>Taking a moment's reflection, Eric van Bezooijen mused:
>>|
>>| I was told that too. Which sucked, because I just got a new phone
>>| from AT&T 2 months ago, and I have to pay $$$ to get another one.
>>
>> I believe Cingular has a "trade in" deal currently for qualifying
>>phones.
>
> They do.
- 12-01-2004, 07:43 AM #12Jack ZwickGuest
Re: Thinking of switching ATT to Cingular
In article <[email protected]>,
"Stuart Friedman" <[email protected]> wrote:
> That's great, but many of us have pretty new phones. I have an unlocked
> v600 that I"m perfectly happy with and which Cingular currently sells. It
> is silly to trade that in. Cingular has been known to do sim only
> activations, why not on a transfer.
The firmware inside the phone is different when it is an AT&T phone
versus a Cingular sold phone. That may make a difference.
- 12-01-2004, 07:44 AM #13John NavasGuest
Re: Thinking of switching ATT to Cingular
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In <[email protected]> on Wed, 01 Dec 2004
13:39:08 GMT, "Stuart Friedman" <[email protected]> wrote:
>That's great, but many of us have pretty new phones. I have an unlocked
>v600 that I"m perfectly happy with and which Cingular currently sells. It
>is silly to trade that in. Cingular has been known to do sim only
>activations, why not on a transfer.
Because it locked to and customized for ATTWS. Trying to migrate those phones
would be a Support nightmare.
--
Best regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES:
John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular>
- 12-01-2004, 10:10 PM #14Al KleinGuest
Re: Thinking of switching ATT to Cingular
On Wed, 01 Dec 2004 13:39:08 GMT, "Stuart Friedman" <[email protected]>
said in alt.cellular.cingular:
>That's great, but many of us have pretty new phones. I have an unlocked
>v600 that I"m perfectly happy with and which Cingular currently sells. It
>is silly to trade that in. Cingular has been known to do sim only
>activations, why not on a transfer.
If they won't, do a migration, take the free phone (any free phone the
dealer or Cingular is offering) and put the SIM into your V600. Total
additional cost to you - $0.00.
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