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  1. #1
    Sally P.
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    Hi,

    I'm planning on starting in on a Cingular plan (family nation-wide)
    and need to choose a phone - can anyone recommend a good one? I'm
    partial to the flip-phones, and am more interested in phones with a
    good signal than special features (no need to download games or even
    take pictures, etc...)

    Thanks for any help!

    sally



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  2. #2
    Dave C.
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    Re: phone recommendation?


    "Sally P." <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > Hi,
    >
    > I'm planning on starting in on a Cingular plan (family nation-wide)
    > and need to choose a phone - can anyone recommend a good one? I'm
    > partial to the flip-phones, and am more interested in phones with a
    > good signal than special features (no need to download games or even
    > take pictures, etc...)
    >
    > Thanks for any help!
    >
    > sally


    You are out of luck then. None of the current flip phones offered by
    Cingular are worth a damn. Some have been recalled already, in fact.
    Others are off brands or have tons of features that you don't need or want
    to pay for. Other than the flip phone thing, the Nokia 3120 (free after $30
    rebate) would be perfect for you. As far as good signal, there is not
    another phone available at any price that will beat the 3120. (but it's not
    a flip phone) If you really REALLY want a flip phone with good signal
    (almost as good as a Nokia, in fact), search ebay for a new Cingular branded
    Motorola T720 GSM, if you can find one. Cingular doesn't carry this
    currently, but it would be perfect for you, and Cingular will gladly sell
    you a Sim for it (five bucks or so). -Dave





  3. #3
    DonR
    Guest

    Re: phone recommendation?

    Even though I am not interested in taking pictures, I bought the Motorola
    V400. It is an excellent phone. Probably the best phone I have ever used,
    and I have used many, many, many.

    "Dave C." <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    >
    > "Sally P." <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > Hi,
    > >
    > > I'm planning on starting in on a Cingular plan (family nation-wide)
    > > and need to choose a phone - can anyone recommend a good one? I'm
    > > partial to the flip-phones, and am more interested in phones with a
    > > good signal than special features (no need to download games or even
    > > take pictures, etc...)
    > >
    > > Thanks for any help!
    > >
    > > sally

    >
    > You are out of luck then. None of the current flip phones offered by
    > Cingular are worth a damn. Some have been recalled already, in fact.
    > Others are off brands or have tons of features that you don't need or want
    > to pay for. Other than the flip phone thing, the Nokia 3120 (free after

    $30
    > rebate) would be perfect for you. As far as good signal, there is not
    > another phone available at any price that will beat the 3120. (but it's

    not
    > a flip phone) If you really REALLY want a flip phone with good signal
    > (almost as good as a Nokia, in fact), search ebay for a new Cingular

    branded
    > Motorola T720 GSM, if you can find one. Cingular doesn't carry this
    > currently, but it would be perfect for you, and Cingular will gladly sell
    > you a Sim for it (five bucks or so). -Dave
    >
    >






  4. #4
    John Navas
    Guest

    Re: phone recommendation?

    [POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]

    In <[email protected]> on 20 Nov 2004 19:45:18
    -0800, [email protected] (Sally P.) wrote:

    >I'm planning on starting in on a Cingular plan (family nation-wide)
    >and need to choose a phone - can anyone recommend a good one? I'm
    >partial to the flip-phones, and am more interested in phones with a
    >good signal than special features (no need to download games or even
    >take pictures, etc...)


    Motorola V400.

    --
    Best regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES:
    John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular>



  5. #5
    Sally P.
    Guest

    Re: phone recommendation?

    "Dave C." <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...

    > Other than the flip phone thing, the Nokia 3120 (free after $30
    > rebate) would be perfect for you. As far as good signal, there is not
    > another phone available at any price that will beat the 3120. (but it's not
    > a flip phone) -Dave


    I can live without the flip phone. I'm probably going to order the
    phones (one for me and one for my husband) in early Dec, so that I can
    try out reception while visiting family in PA and on Cape Cod over the
    holidays (and still have time to return the thing w/in 30 days...) I
    heard that the 3120 is in the process of being discontinued though.
    Are Nokia phones in general pretty good? I'm wondering if the 3120 is
    still going to be around next month, or if I'll be looking at its
    replacement...

    Thanks again to all for the advice. - Sally



  6. #6
    Dave C.
    Guest

    Re: phone recommendation?

    > I can live without the flip phone. I'm probably going to order the
    > phones (one for me and one for my husband) in early Dec, so that I can
    > try out reception while visiting family in PA and on Cape Cod over the
    > holidays (and still have time to return the thing w/in 30 days...) I
    > heard that the 3120 is in the process of being discontinued though.
    > Are Nokia phones in general pretty good? I'm wondering if the 3120 is
    > still going to be around next month, or if I'll be looking at its
    > replacement...
    >
    > Thanks again to all for the advice. - Sally


    Careful . . . when I signed with Cingular, the tryout period was much
    shorter than 30 days. I don't remember the exact details, but I believe it
    was 14 days or 60 minutes of use. Note that there was a USAGE restriction
    on the trial period. So even if they give you say, 14 days, you might still
    be locked into the contract if you go over the number of minutes.

    Good luck on Cape Cod. I've tried several carriers including USCellular,
    ATT, Nextel, Verizon and Cingular. They all have poor coverage (that's
    being kind) on Cape Cod. Generally, Nextel's coverage is horrible
    regardless of where you are. But ironically, I've had the best luck with
    Nextel and Cingular on Cape Cod. Which is to say, that I have been able to
    successfully place a FEW calls from Cape Cod on Nextel and Cingular (GSM)
    handsets.

    If you can live without the flip phone, then the 3120 is perfect . . . you
    will LOVE it. I haven't heard that the 3120 is being discontinued. But if
    so, the Nokia 6010 is almost identical. -Dave





  7. #7
    Jack Zwick
    Guest

    Re: phone recommendation?

    In article <[email protected]>, "Dave C." <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    > > I can live without the flip phone. I'm probably going to order the
    > > phones (one for me and one for my husband) in early Dec, so that I can
    > > try out reception while visiting family in PA and on Cape Cod over the
    > > holidays (and still have time to return the thing w/in 30 days...) I
    > > heard that the 3120 is in the process of being discontinued though.
    > > Are Nokia phones in general pretty good? I'm wondering if the 3120 is
    > > still going to be around next month, or if I'll be looking at its
    > > replacement...
    > >
    > > Thanks again to all for the advice. - Sally

    >
    > Careful . . . when I signed with Cingular, the tryout period was much
    > shorter than 30 days. I don't remember the exact details, but I believe it
    > was 14 days or 60 minutes of use. Note that there was a USAGE restriction
    > on the trial period. So even if they give you say, 14 days, you might still
    > be locked into the contract if you go over the number of minutes.


    The 30 days is to exchange phones, and then only ONCE.



  8. #8
    Dave C.
    Guest

    Re: phone recommendation?

    >>
    >> Careful . . . when I signed with Cingular, the tryout period was much
    >> shorter than 30 days. I don't remember the exact details, but I believe
    >> it
    >> was 14 days or 60 minutes of use. Note that there was a USAGE
    >> restriction
    >> on the trial period. So even if they give you say, 14 days, you might
    >> still
    >> be locked into the contract if you go over the number of minutes.

    >
    > The 30 days is to exchange phones, and then only ONCE.


    Well that's not very consumer friendly. The phone is only as good as the
    network that it is on. If anything, there should be a longer trial period
    for the network than for the phone. -Dave





  9. #9
    Jack Zwick
    Guest

    Re: phone recommendation?

    In article <[email protected]>, "Dave C." <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    >
    > Well that's not very consumer friendly. The phone is only as good as the
    > network that it is on. If anything, there should be a longer trial period
    > for the network than for the phone. -Dave


    If they wanted to be "friendly" you'd have proper maps showing coverage,
    and not these squintavision maps with 1" = 300 miles.



  10. #10
    Dave C.
    Guest

    Re: phone recommendation?


    >
    > If they wanted to be "friendly" you'd have proper maps showing coverage,
    > and not these squintavision maps with 1" = 300 miles.


    I don't know about that. A cellular blind spot can be as small as 400 SF.
    You really want to see a map of cellular coverage at 1:1 scale? -Dave





  11. #11
    Jack Zwick
    Guest

    Re: phone recommendation?

    In article <[email protected]>, "Dave C." <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    >
    > >
    > > If they wanted to be "friendly" you'd have proper maps showing coverage,
    > > and not these squintavision maps with 1" = 300 miles.

    >
    > I don't know about that. A cellular blind spot can be as small as 400 SF.
    > You really want to see a map of cellular coverage at 1:1 scale? -Dave


    I'd like to see one at far better scale than 1" = 300 miles so that no
    dead zone shows up.

    http://www.nbcsandiego.com/technolog...97/detail.html



  12. #12
    Dave C.
    Guest

    Re: phone recommendation?

    >> I don't know about that. A cellular blind spot can be as small as 400
    >> SF.
    >> You really want to see a map of cellular coverage at 1:1 scale?
    >> -Dave

    >
    > I'd like to see one at far better scale than 1" = 300 miles so that no
    > dead zone shows up.
    >
    > http://www.nbcsandiego.com/technolog...97/detail.html


    That's really not possible. Radio signals are basically line of sight.
    Well, they bounce off the atmosphere, also*, but still can't reach areas out
    of sight, unless reflecting off something in sight. An accurate map of all
    blind spots would look very suspiciously like a topographical map of
    whatever region it shows. If it was truly accurate, it would also be a HUGE
    scale. Like I said before, about 1:1 scale.

    I know it might seem like the coverage maps are deliberately misleading, but
    an accurate map would be even worse. And do you really want to pay for an
    accurate map, considering it would cost BILLIONS to compile it, and billions
    more each year to update it? I sure don't.

    I think the coverage maps are kind of moot anyway. You look at them to
    determine if a particular cellular service at least TRIES to provide
    coverage in a certain area, before signing up for service. After you sign
    up, then you find the blind spots yourself. If there aren't too many blind
    spots where you need to use the phone, then you've found a good service for
    yourself. So what's the map for anyway? -Dave

    * That's how sometimes radio signals can travel halfway around the world .
    .. . the signal gets stuck between layers of atmosphere and keeps bouncing
    around up there until it finds an opening over another continent.





  13. #13
    bamp
    Guest

    Re: phone recommendation?


    "Sally P." <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > Hi,
    >
    > I'm planning on starting in on a Cingular plan (family nation-wide)
    > and need to choose a phone - can anyone recommend a good one? I'm
    > partial to the flip-phones, and am more interested in phones with a
    > good signal than special features (no need to download games or even
    > take pictures, etc...)
    >
    > Thanks for any help!
    >
    > sally


    Samsung X427M, a good basic flip phone with good loud audio both ways and
    good RF.

    bamp





  14. #14
    Jack Zwick
    Guest

    Re: phone recommendation?

    In article <[email protected]>, "Dave C." <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    > >> I don't know about that. A cellular blind spot can be as small as 400
    > >> SF.
    > >> You really want to see a map of cellular coverage at 1:1 scale?
    > >> -Dave

    > >
    > > I'd like to see one at far better scale than 1" = 300 miles so that no
    > > dead zone shows up.
    > >
    > > http://www.nbcsandiego.com/technolog...97/detail.html

    >
    > That's really not possible. Radio signals are basically line of sight.
    > Well, they bounce off the atmosphere, also*, but still can't reach areas out
    > of sight, unless reflecting off something in sight. An accurate map of all
    > blind spots would look very suspiciously like a topographical map of
    > whatever region it shows. If it was truly accurate, it would also be a HUGE
    > scale. Like I said before, about 1:1 scale.


    NONSENSE. There's a new invention that allows more detailed maps. It's
    called a computer. You dont have to be 1 to 1 to do far better than 1" =
    300 miles.

    And in spite of your pretending its impossible, better maps may be on
    the way:

    <http://www.theage.com.au/articles/20...406538273.html>



  15. #15
    Glenn
    Guest

    Re: phone recommendation?

    I am in 100% agreement with this. The V400 is an excellent phone choice.


    "DonR" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news[email protected]...
    > Even though I am not interested in taking pictures, I bought the Motorola
    > V400. It is an excellent phone. Probably the best phone I have ever used,
    > and I have used many, many, many.
    >
    > "Dave C." <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    >>
    >> "Sally P." <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >> news:[email protected]...
    >> > Hi,
    >> >
    >> > I'm planning on starting in on a Cingular plan (family nation-wide)
    >> > and need to choose a phone - can anyone recommend a good one? I'm
    >> > partial to the flip-phones, and am more interested in phones with a
    >> > good signal than special features (no need to download games or even
    >> > take pictures, etc...)
    >> >
    >> > Thanks for any help!
    >> >
    >> > sally

    >>
    >> You are out of luck then. None of the current flip phones offered by
    >> Cingular are worth a damn. Some have been recalled already, in fact.
    >> Others are off brands or have tons of features that you don't need or
    >> want
    >> to pay for. Other than the flip phone thing, the Nokia 3120 (free after

    > $30
    >> rebate) would be perfect for you. As far as good signal, there is not
    >> another phone available at any price that will beat the 3120. (but it's

    > not
    >> a flip phone) If you really REALLY want a flip phone with good signal
    >> (almost as good as a Nokia, in fact), search ebay for a new Cingular

    > branded
    >> Motorola T720 GSM, if you can find one. Cingular doesn't carry this
    >> currently, but it would be perfect for you, and Cingular will gladly sell
    >> you a Sim for it (five bucks or so). -Dave
    >>
    >>

    >
    >






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