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- 11-20-2004, 09:45 PM #1Sally P.Guest
Hi,
I'm planning on starting in on a Cingular plan (family nation-wide)
and need to choose a phone - can anyone recommend a good one? I'm
partial to the flip-phones, and am more interested in phones with a
good signal than special features (no need to download games or even
take pictures, etc...)
Thanks for any help!
sally
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- 11-20-2004, 10:03 PM #2Dave C.Guest
Re: phone recommendation?
"Sally P." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hi,
>
> I'm planning on starting in on a Cingular plan (family nation-wide)
> and need to choose a phone - can anyone recommend a good one? I'm
> partial to the flip-phones, and am more interested in phones with a
> good signal than special features (no need to download games or even
> take pictures, etc...)
>
> Thanks for any help!
>
> sally
You are out of luck then. None of the current flip phones offered by
Cingular are worth a damn. Some have been recalled already, in fact.
Others are off brands or have tons of features that you don't need or want
to pay for. Other than the flip phone thing, the Nokia 3120 (free after $30
rebate) would be perfect for you. As far as good signal, there is not
another phone available at any price that will beat the 3120. (but it's not
a flip phone) If you really REALLY want a flip phone with good signal
(almost as good as a Nokia, in fact), search ebay for a new Cingular branded
Motorola T720 GSM, if you can find one. Cingular doesn't carry this
currently, but it would be perfect for you, and Cingular will gladly sell
you a Sim for it (five bucks or so). -Dave
- 11-20-2004, 11:02 PM #3DonRGuest
Re: phone recommendation?
Even though I am not interested in taking pictures, I bought the Motorola
V400. It is an excellent phone. Probably the best phone I have ever used,
and I have used many, many, many.
"Dave C." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Sally P." <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Hi,
> >
> > I'm planning on starting in on a Cingular plan (family nation-wide)
> > and need to choose a phone - can anyone recommend a good one? I'm
> > partial to the flip-phones, and am more interested in phones with a
> > good signal than special features (no need to download games or even
> > take pictures, etc...)
> >
> > Thanks for any help!
> >
> > sally
>
> You are out of luck then. None of the current flip phones offered by
> Cingular are worth a damn. Some have been recalled already, in fact.
> Others are off brands or have tons of features that you don't need or want
> to pay for. Other than the flip phone thing, the Nokia 3120 (free after
$30
> rebate) would be perfect for you. As far as good signal, there is not
> another phone available at any price that will beat the 3120. (but it's
not
> a flip phone) If you really REALLY want a flip phone with good signal
> (almost as good as a Nokia, in fact), search ebay for a new Cingular
branded
> Motorola T720 GSM, if you can find one. Cingular doesn't carry this
> currently, but it would be perfect for you, and Cingular will gladly sell
> you a Sim for it (five bucks or so). -Dave
>
>
- 11-21-2004, 04:38 AM #4John NavasGuest
Re: phone recommendation?
[POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]
In <[email protected]> on 20 Nov 2004 19:45:18
-0800, [email protected] (Sally P.) wrote:
>I'm planning on starting in on a Cingular plan (family nation-wide)
>and need to choose a phone - can anyone recommend a good one? I'm
>partial to the flip-phones, and am more interested in phones with a
>good signal than special features (no need to download games or even
>take pictures, etc...)
Motorola V400.
--
Best regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES:
John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular>
- 11-21-2004, 02:54 PM #5Sally P.Guest
Re: phone recommendation?
"Dave C." <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> Other than the flip phone thing, the Nokia 3120 (free after $30
> rebate) would be perfect for you. As far as good signal, there is not
> another phone available at any price that will beat the 3120. (but it's not
> a flip phone) -Dave
I can live without the flip phone. I'm probably going to order the
phones (one for me and one for my husband) in early Dec, so that I can
try out reception while visiting family in PA and on Cape Cod over the
holidays (and still have time to return the thing w/in 30 days...) I
heard that the 3120 is in the process of being discontinued though.
Are Nokia phones in general pretty good? I'm wondering if the 3120 is
still going to be around next month, or if I'll be looking at its
replacement...
Thanks again to all for the advice. - Sally
- 11-21-2004, 03:31 PM #6Dave C.Guest
Re: phone recommendation?
> I can live without the flip phone. I'm probably going to order the
> phones (one for me and one for my husband) in early Dec, so that I can
> try out reception while visiting family in PA and on Cape Cod over the
> holidays (and still have time to return the thing w/in 30 days...) I
> heard that the 3120 is in the process of being discontinued though.
> Are Nokia phones in general pretty good? I'm wondering if the 3120 is
> still going to be around next month, or if I'll be looking at its
> replacement...
>
> Thanks again to all for the advice. - Sally
Careful . . . when I signed with Cingular, the tryout period was much
shorter than 30 days. I don't remember the exact details, but I believe it
was 14 days or 60 minutes of use. Note that there was a USAGE restriction
on the trial period. So even if they give you say, 14 days, you might still
be locked into the contract if you go over the number of minutes.
Good luck on Cape Cod. I've tried several carriers including USCellular,
ATT, Nextel, Verizon and Cingular. They all have poor coverage (that's
being kind) on Cape Cod. Generally, Nextel's coverage is horrible
regardless of where you are. But ironically, I've had the best luck with
Nextel and Cingular on Cape Cod. Which is to say, that I have been able to
successfully place a FEW calls from Cape Cod on Nextel and Cingular (GSM)
handsets.
If you can live without the flip phone, then the 3120 is perfect . . . you
will LOVE it. I haven't heard that the 3120 is being discontinued. But if
so, the Nokia 6010 is almost identical. -Dave
- 11-21-2004, 04:08 PM #7Jack ZwickGuest
Re: phone recommendation?
In article <[email protected]>, "Dave C." <[email protected]>
wrote:
> > I can live without the flip phone. I'm probably going to order the
> > phones (one for me and one for my husband) in early Dec, so that I can
> > try out reception while visiting family in PA and on Cape Cod over the
> > holidays (and still have time to return the thing w/in 30 days...) I
> > heard that the 3120 is in the process of being discontinued though.
> > Are Nokia phones in general pretty good? I'm wondering if the 3120 is
> > still going to be around next month, or if I'll be looking at its
> > replacement...
> >
> > Thanks again to all for the advice. - Sally
>
> Careful . . . when I signed with Cingular, the tryout period was much
> shorter than 30 days. I don't remember the exact details, but I believe it
> was 14 days or 60 minutes of use. Note that there was a USAGE restriction
> on the trial period. So even if they give you say, 14 days, you might still
> be locked into the contract if you go over the number of minutes.
The 30 days is to exchange phones, and then only ONCE.
- 11-21-2004, 05:53 PM #8Dave C.Guest
Re: phone recommendation?
>>
>> Careful . . . when I signed with Cingular, the tryout period was much
>> shorter than 30 days. I don't remember the exact details, but I believe
>> it
>> was 14 days or 60 minutes of use. Note that there was a USAGE
>> restriction
>> on the trial period. So even if they give you say, 14 days, you might
>> still
>> be locked into the contract if you go over the number of minutes.
>
> The 30 days is to exchange phones, and then only ONCE.
Well that's not very consumer friendly. The phone is only as good as the
network that it is on. If anything, there should be a longer trial period
for the network than for the phone. -Dave
- 11-21-2004, 06:51 PM #9Jack ZwickGuest
Re: phone recommendation?
In article <[email protected]>, "Dave C." <[email protected]>
wrote:
>
> Well that's not very consumer friendly. The phone is only as good as the
> network that it is on. If anything, there should be a longer trial period
> for the network than for the phone. -Dave
If they wanted to be "friendly" you'd have proper maps showing coverage,
and not these squintavision maps with 1" = 300 miles.
- 11-21-2004, 07:53 PM #10Dave C.Guest
Re: phone recommendation?
>
> If they wanted to be "friendly" you'd have proper maps showing coverage,
> and not these squintavision maps with 1" = 300 miles.
I don't know about that. A cellular blind spot can be as small as 400 SF.
You really want to see a map of cellular coverage at 1:1 scale? -Dave
- 11-21-2004, 08:37 PM #11Jack ZwickGuest
Re: phone recommendation?
In article <[email protected]>, "Dave C." <[email protected]>
wrote:
>
> >
> > If they wanted to be "friendly" you'd have proper maps showing coverage,
> > and not these squintavision maps with 1" = 300 miles.
>
> I don't know about that. A cellular blind spot can be as small as 400 SF.
> You really want to see a map of cellular coverage at 1:1 scale? -Dave
I'd like to see one at far better scale than 1" = 300 miles so that no
dead zone shows up.
http://www.nbcsandiego.com/technolog...97/detail.html
- 11-21-2004, 08:49 PM #12Dave C.Guest
Re: phone recommendation?
>> I don't know about that. A cellular blind spot can be as small as 400
>> SF.
>> You really want to see a map of cellular coverage at 1:1 scale?
>> -Dave
>
> I'd like to see one at far better scale than 1" = 300 miles so that no
> dead zone shows up.
>
> http://www.nbcsandiego.com/technolog...97/detail.html
That's really not possible. Radio signals are basically line of sight.
Well, they bounce off the atmosphere, also*, but still can't reach areas out
of sight, unless reflecting off something in sight. An accurate map of all
blind spots would look very suspiciously like a topographical map of
whatever region it shows. If it was truly accurate, it would also be a HUGE
scale. Like I said before, about 1:1 scale.
I know it might seem like the coverage maps are deliberately misleading, but
an accurate map would be even worse. And do you really want to pay for an
accurate map, considering it would cost BILLIONS to compile it, and billions
more each year to update it? I sure don't.
I think the coverage maps are kind of moot anyway. You look at them to
determine if a particular cellular service at least TRIES to provide
coverage in a certain area, before signing up for service. After you sign
up, then you find the blind spots yourself. If there aren't too many blind
spots where you need to use the phone, then you've found a good service for
yourself. So what's the map for anyway? -Dave
* That's how sometimes radio signals can travel halfway around the world .
.. . the signal gets stuck between layers of atmosphere and keeps bouncing
around up there until it finds an opening over another continent.
- 11-21-2004, 09:33 PM #13bampGuest
Re: phone recommendation?
"Sally P." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hi,
>
> I'm planning on starting in on a Cingular plan (family nation-wide)
> and need to choose a phone - can anyone recommend a good one? I'm
> partial to the flip-phones, and am more interested in phones with a
> good signal than special features (no need to download games or even
> take pictures, etc...)
>
> Thanks for any help!
>
> sally
Samsung X427M, a good basic flip phone with good loud audio both ways and
good RF.
bamp
- 11-22-2004, 03:19 AM #14Jack ZwickGuest
Re: phone recommendation?
In article <[email protected]>, "Dave C." <[email protected]>
wrote:
> >> I don't know about that. A cellular blind spot can be as small as 400
> >> SF.
> >> You really want to see a map of cellular coverage at 1:1 scale?
> >> -Dave
> >
> > I'd like to see one at far better scale than 1" = 300 miles so that no
> > dead zone shows up.
> >
> > http://www.nbcsandiego.com/technolog...97/detail.html
>
> That's really not possible. Radio signals are basically line of sight.
> Well, they bounce off the atmosphere, also*, but still can't reach areas out
> of sight, unless reflecting off something in sight. An accurate map of all
> blind spots would look very suspiciously like a topographical map of
> whatever region it shows. If it was truly accurate, it would also be a HUGE
> scale. Like I said before, about 1:1 scale.
NONSENSE. There's a new invention that allows more detailed maps. It's
called a computer. You dont have to be 1 to 1 to do far better than 1" =
300 miles.
And in spite of your pretending its impossible, better maps may be on
the way:
<http://www.theage.com.au/articles/20...406538273.html>
- 11-22-2004, 10:04 AM #15GlennGuest
Re: phone recommendation?
I am in 100% agreement with this. The V400 is an excellent phone choice.
"DonR" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news[email protected]...
> Even though I am not interested in taking pictures, I bought the Motorola
> V400. It is an excellent phone. Probably the best phone I have ever used,
> and I have used many, many, many.
>
> "Dave C." <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>>
>> "Sally P." <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > I'm planning on starting in on a Cingular plan (family nation-wide)
>> > and need to choose a phone - can anyone recommend a good one? I'm
>> > partial to the flip-phones, and am more interested in phones with a
>> > good signal than special features (no need to download games or even
>> > take pictures, etc...)
>> >
>> > Thanks for any help!
>> >
>> > sally
>>
>> You are out of luck then. None of the current flip phones offered by
>> Cingular are worth a damn. Some have been recalled already, in fact.
>> Others are off brands or have tons of features that you don't need or
>> want
>> to pay for. Other than the flip phone thing, the Nokia 3120 (free after
> $30
>> rebate) would be perfect for you. As far as good signal, there is not
>> another phone available at any price that will beat the 3120. (but it's
> not
>> a flip phone) If you really REALLY want a flip phone with good signal
>> (almost as good as a Nokia, in fact), search ebay for a new Cingular
> branded
>> Motorola T720 GSM, if you can find one. Cingular doesn't carry this
>> currently, but it would be perfect for you, and Cingular will gladly sell
>> you a Sim for it (five bucks or so). -Dave
>>
>>
>
>
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