Cingular now PUSHing AT&T Wirelss phone sales

AT&T Wireless still ==> NOT <== integrated.

New! Cellular plans for only $16.95 / month

It was all supposed to end on Nov. 15; AT&T wireless was supposed to
start selling Cingular plans. By Nov 16, on the web and in the stores
AT&T wireless was fully back in action; selling AT&T Wireless phones and
plans.

Today a Cingular link on Yahoo Reuters News promotes Cingular Plans
starting at $16.95, down from $19.95, and clicking on it take one to:

http://www.attwireless.com/index_a.jhtml

an AT&T Wireless web site, with a Cingular logo pasted on top, selling
AT&T Wireless phones and plans.

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In article <[email protected]>,
Jack Zwick <[email protected]> wrote:

> AT&T Wireless still ==> NOT <== integrated.
>
> New! Cellular plans for only $16.95 / month
>
> It was all supposed to end on Nov. 15; AT&T wireless was supposed to
> start selling Cingular plans. By Nov 16, on the web and in the stores
> AT&T wireless was fully back in action; selling AT&T Wireless phones and
> plans.
>
> Today a Cingular link on Yahoo Reuters News promotes Cingular Plans
> starting at $16.95, down from $19.95, and clicking on it take one to:
>
> http://www.attwireless.com/index_a.jhtml
>
> an AT&T Wireless web site, with a Cingular logo pasted on top, selling
> AT&T Wireless phones and plans.

Followup. It's a $19.95 plan thats almost impossible to pick on the
website. Include 45 local minutes, no mobile to mobile, no nights and
weekends, and no long distance, and no where is it indicated that it's
on special for $16.95, but it does require a 2 year contract, not
unreasonable given you can get a Sony T637 for FREE.

BAIT and SWITCH

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In <[email protected]> on Thu, 02 Dec
2004 10:53:22 GMT, Jack Zwick <[email protected]> wrote:

>AT&T Wireless still ==> NOT <== integrated.

Of course. As expected.

>New! Cellular plans for only $16.95 / month
>
>It was all supposed to end on Nov. 15; AT&T wireless was supposed to
>start selling Cingular plans. ...

Nope.

>Today a Cingular link on Yahoo Reuters News promotes Cingular Plans
>starting at $16.95, down from $19.95, and clicking on it take one to:
>
>http://www.attwireless.com/index_a.jhtml
>
>an AT&T Wireless web site, with a Cingular logo pasted on top, selling
>AT&T Wireless phones and plans.

Yep. Both brands are still alive and well. Why does this upset you so much?

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Best regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES:
John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular>

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In <[email protected]> on Thu, 02 Dec
2004 14:18:53 GMT, Jack Zwick <[email protected]> wrote:

>In article <[email protected]>,
> Jack Zwick <[email protected]> wrote:

>> Today a Cingular link on Yahoo Reuters News promotes Cingular Plans
>> starting at $16.95, down from $19.95, and clicking on it take one to:
>>
>> http://www.attwireless.com/index_a.jhtml
>>
>> an AT&T Wireless web site, with a Cingular logo pasted on top, selling
>> AT&T Wireless phones and plans.
>
>Followup. It's a $19.95 plan thats almost impossible to pick on the
>website.

Actually dead easy for anyone of even average intelligence:
Learn More -> enter ZIP -> Learn about plans -> and there it is, at the top

>Include 45 local minutes, no mobile to mobile, no nights and
>weekends, and no long distance, and no where is it indicated that it's
>on special for $16.95, but it does require a 2 year contract, not
>unreasonable given you can get a Sony T637 for FREE.
>
>BAIT and SWITCH

Hardly.

--
Best regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES:
John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular>

On Thu, 02 Dec 2004 15:56:33 GMT, John Navas
<[email protected]> wrote:

>>an AT&T Wireless web site, with a Cingular logo pasted on top, selling
>>AT&T Wireless phones and plans.
>
>Yep. Both brands are still alive and well. Why does this upset you so much?

John -

If a person was to start as a new customer now, would it be better to
go with Cingular or AT&T? Or does it really make any difference at
this point? I notice the phones available from them are slightly
different. I am leaning toward the Motorola V551, and that seems to
be offered only by Cingular, but I realize it can be obtained from
other sources.

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In <[email protected]> on Thu, 02 Dec 2004 09:12:47
-0700, Dick <LeadWinger> wrote:

>On Thu, 02 Dec 2004 15:56:33 GMT, John Navas
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>>an AT&T Wireless web site, with a Cingular logo pasted on top, selling
>>>AT&T Wireless phones and plans.
>>
>>Yep. Both brands are still alive and well. Why does this upset you so much?
>
>John -
>
>If a person was to start as a new customer now, would it be better to
>go with Cingular or AT&T? Or does it really make any difference at
>this point? I notice the phones available from them are slightly
>different.

It does make a difference, not only different phones (as you note), but also
different rate plans. Chose the rate plan and phone that works best for you.

>I am leaning toward the Motorola V551, and that seems to
>be offered only by Cingular, but I realize it can be obtained from
>other sources.

The V551 is a Cingular-branded phone so you'll want a Cingular rate plan.

--
Best regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES:
John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular>

In article <[email protected]>,
John Navas <[email protected]> wrote:

> [POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]
>
> In <[email protected]> on Thu, 02 Dec
> 2004 14:18:53 GMT, Jack Zwick <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >In article <[email protected]>,
> > Jack Zwick <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >> Today a Cingular link on Yahoo Reuters News promotes Cingular Plans
> >> starting at $16.95, down from $19.95, and clicking on it take one to:
> >>
> >> http://www.attwireless.com/index_a.jhtml
> >>
> >> an AT&T Wireless web site, with a Cingular logo pasted on top, selling
> >> AT&T Wireless phones and plans.
> >
> >Followup. It's a $19.95 plan thats almost impossible to pick on the
> >website.
>
> Actually dead easy for anyone of even average intelligence:
> Learn More -> enter ZIP -> Learn about plans -> and there it is, at the top
>
> >Include 45 local minutes, no mobile to mobile, no nights and
> >weekends, and no long distance, and no where is it indicated that it's
> >on special for $16.95, but it does require a 2 year contract, not
> >unreasonable given you can get a Sony T637 for FREE.
> >
> >BAIT and SWITCH
>
> Hardly.

Exactly. Bait and Switch.

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In <[email protected]> on Thu, 02 Dec
2004 20:34:09 GMT, Jack Zwick <[email protected]> wrote:

>In article <[email protected]>,
> John Navas <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> In <[email protected]> on Thu, 02 Dec
>> 2004 14:18:53 GMT, Jack Zwick <[email protected]> wrote:

>> >BAIT and SWITCH
>>
>> Hardly.
>
>Exactly. Bait and Switch.

Not true, no matter how many times you rant.

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Best regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES:
John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular>

I've been reading this NG for a couple of weeks and can't tell why you
dislike Cingular so much. You waste a lot of energy {for some unknown
reason}bashing Cingular / AT&T ... why not give it a rest. They don't run a
monopoly that I'm aware of which means you are not obligated to purchase the
service.

It would be great if Cingular customers could come here to share useful
information instead of Cingular bashing.
___________________
Ann
Motorola V551
iPAQ 4355
"Jack Zwick" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> AT&T Wireless still ==> NOT <== integrated.
>
> New! Cellular plans for only $16.95 / month
>
> It was all supposed to end on Nov. 15; AT&T wireless was supposed to
> start selling Cingular plans. By Nov 16, on the web and in the stores
> AT&T wireless was fully back in action; selling AT&T Wireless phones and
> plans.
>
> Today a Cingular link on Yahoo Reuters News promotes Cingular Plans
> starting at $16.95, down from $19.95, and clicking on it take one to:
>
> http://www.attwireless.com/index_a.jhtml
>
> an AT&T Wireless web site, with a Cingular logo pasted on top, selling
> AT&T Wireless phones and plans.

In article <[email protected]>,
"Ann" <[email protected]> wrote:

> I've been reading this NG for a couple of weeks and can't tell why you
> dislike Cingular so much. You waste a lot of energy {for some unknown
> reason}bashing Cingular / AT&T ... why not give it a rest. They don't run a
> monopoly that I'm aware of which means you are not obligated to purchase the
> service.
>
> It would be great if Cingular customers could come here to share useful
> information instead of Cingular bashing.

Why is it bashing to factually report a change in their links to web
sites. Youre the one who takes it as negative.

Too bad you spent so much on your phone and service that you have to
delude yourself that Cingular is perfect.

I like my Cingular phone and service, but will report on things as they
are, and not ignore the warts.

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In <[email protected]> on Thu, 02 Dec
2004 23:15:45 GMT, FUDMEISTER Jack Zwick <[email protected]> wrote:

>In article <[email protected]>,
> "Ann" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I've been reading this NG for a couple of weeks and can't tell why you
>> dislike Cingular so much. You waste a lot of energy {for some unknown
>> reason}bashing Cingular / AT&T ... why not give it a rest. They don't run a
>> monopoly that I'm aware of which means you are not obligated to purchase the
>> service.
>>
>> It would be great if Cingular customers could come here to share useful
>> information instead of Cingular bashing.
>
>Why is it bashing

Because it is.

>to factually report a change in their links to web
>sites.

That's not what you're doing.

>Youre the one who takes it as negative.

"A rose by any other name..."

>Too bad you spent so much on your phone and service that you have to
>delude yourself that Cingular is perfect.

It's not perfect. Too bad you have so much hate that you have to keep
bashing.

>I like my Cingular phone and service, but will report on things as they
>are, and not ignore the warts.

Chicken Little keeps on going, and going, and going...

--
Best regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES:
John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular>

"Jack Zwick" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> AT&T Wireless still ==> NOT <== integrated.
>
> New! Cellular plans for only $16.95 / month
>
> It was all supposed to end on Nov. 15; AT&T wireless was supposed to
> start selling Cingular plans.

They never said that they would stop selling AT&T- where is it stated that
AT&T would cease to exist on the 15th?

>By Nov 16, on the web and in the stores
> AT&T wireless was fully back in action; selling AT&T Wireless phones and
> plans.
>
> Today a Cingular link on Yahoo Reuters News promotes Cingular Plans
> starting at $16.95, down from $19.95, and clicking on it take one to:
>
> http://www.attwireless.com/index_a.jhtml
>
> an AT&T Wireless web site, with a Cingular logo pasted on top, selling
> AT&T Wireless phones and plans.

And the problem with all that is.......?

"Ann" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I've been reading this NG for a couple of weeks and can't tell why you
> dislike Cingular so much. You waste a lot of energy {for some unknown
> reason}bashing Cingular / AT&T ... why not give it a rest. They don't run
> a monopoly that I'm aware of which means you are not obligated to purchase
> the service.
>
> It would be great if Cingular customers could come here to share useful
> information instead of Cingular bashing.
> ___________________
> Ann
> Motorola V551
> iPAQ 4355

I agree, Ann, tell it like it is.

bamp

On Thu, 02 Dec 2004 10:53:22 GMT, Jack Zwick <[email protected]>
said in alt.cellular.cingular:

>AT&T Wireless still ==> NOT <== integrated.
>
>New! Cellular plans for only $16.95 / month
>
>It was all supposed to end on Nov. 15; AT&T wireless was supposed to
>start selling Cingular plans.

It's supposed to end after December 31, not November 15.

On Thu, 02 Dec 2004 23:15:45 GMT, Jack Zwick <[email protected]>
said in alt.cellular.cingular:

>Why is it bashing to factually report a change in their links to web
>sites. Youre the one who takes it as negative.

You're the one who claims it's a negative.