v551

seems like I read a earlier post about the v551 seeing Cingular AND Att
towers as"home" where as the v400
and v600 only see the Cingular towers as home
any info will be much appreciated

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In article <[email protected]>,
"TIM CAMPBELL" <[email protected]> wrote:

> seems like I read a earlier post about the v551 seeing Cingular AND Att
> towers as"home" where as the v400
> and v600 only see the Cingular towers as home
> any info will be much appreciated

If you have the new 64K Sim it wont matter. If you have an older 32K
sim, it depends whether you have an AT&T phone & Sim; or a Cingular
phopne & Sim

I have Cingular phone w/32k Cingular sim
"Jack Zwick" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In article <[email protected]>,
> "TIM CAMPBELL" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> seems like I read a earlier post about the v551 seeing Cingular AND Att
>> towers as"home" where as the v400
>> and v600 only see the Cingular towers as home
>> any info will be much appreciated
>
> If you have the new 64K Sim it wont matter. If you have an older 32K
> sim, it depends whether you have an AT&T phone & Sim; or a Cingular
> phopne & Sim

On Fri, 3 Dec 2004 15:51:04 -0600, "TIM CAMPBELL"
<[email protected]> said in alt.cellular.cingular:

>I have Cingular phone w/32k Cingular sim

In order to use the expanded system, at this time, (according to
Cingular) you need a 64k SIM. Exactly what that means with each phone
depends on who you ask.

It's taken Verizon a few years and they still haven't finished
"integrating" all the parts, so I don't think we'll see a
single-company Cingular all that soon.

I have a 32K Sim. How do I go about exchanging it for a 64K Sim?

"Al Klein" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Fri, 3 Dec 2004 15:51:04 -0600, "TIM CAMPBELL"
> <[email protected]> said in alt.cellular.cingular:
>
> >I have Cingular phone w/32k Cingular sim
>
> In order to use the expanded system, at this time, (according to
> Cingular) you need a 64k SIM. Exactly what that means with each phone
> depends on who you ask.
>
> It's taken Verizon a few years and they still haven't finished
> "integrating" all the parts, so I don't think we'll see a
> single-company Cingular all that soon.

Then you will Home on Cingular, and roam freely on ATTWS when (and only when)
there isn't a usable Cingular signal, even where the ATTWS signal is better.

In <[email protected]> on Fri, 3 Dec 2004 15:51:04 -0600,
"TIM CAMPBELL" <[email protected]> wrote:

>I have Cingular phone w/32k Cingular sim
>"Jack Zwick" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> In article <[email protected]>,
>> "TIM CAMPBELL" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> seems like I read a earlier post about the v551 seeing Cingular AND Att
>>> towers as"home" where as the v400
>>> and v600 only see the Cingular towers as home
>>> any info will be much appreciated
>>
>> If you have the new 64K Sim it wont matter. If you have an older 32K
>> sim, it depends whether you have an AT&T phone & Sim; or a Cingular
>> phopne & Sim
>

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With all respect to Al, a new SIM isn't needed to get the benefits of both
networks -- all Cingular subscribers can now roam freely on ATTWS, and vice
versa. The only issue is that your Home network will always be selected when
there is a "usable" Home signal, even when the other network has a better
signal, but that's not generally a problem in practice. The new SIM addresses
the issue by treating the two networks as one virtual Home network, but only
with a handset that supports ENS.

In <[email protected]> on Sat, 04 Dec 2004
04:27:06 GMT, "DonR" <[email protected]> wrote:

>I have a 32K Sim. How do I go about exchanging it for a 64K Sim?
>
>"Al Klein" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> On Fri, 3 Dec 2004 15:51:04 -0600, "TIM CAMPBELL"
>> <[email protected]> said in alt.cellular.cingular:
>>
>> >I have Cingular phone w/32k Cingular sim
>>
>> In order to use the expanded system, at this time, (according to
>> Cingular) you need a 64k SIM. Exactly what that means with each phone
>> depends on who you ask.
>>
>> It's taken Verizon a few years and they still haven't finished
>> "integrating" all the parts, so I don't think we'll see a
>> single-company Cingular all that soon.

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John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular>

On Sat, 04 Dec 2004 16:16:52 GMT, John Navas
<[email protected]> wrote:
>With all respect to Al, a new SIM isn't needed to get the benefits of both
>networks -- all Cingular subscribers can now roam freely on ATTWS, and vice
>versa. The only issue is that your Home network will always be selected when
>there is a "usable" Home signal, even when the other network has a better
>signal, but that's not generally a problem in practice. The new SIM addresses
>the issue by treating the two networks as one virtual Home network, but only
>with a handset that supports ENS.

They why, John, does my v551 with the new SIM, at my home, fail to
lock onto the much stronger signal that AT&T GSM has available? The
very same phone with an AT&T SIM card gets 4 - 5 bars anywhere in the
house. With the new Cingular 64k SIM it's 3 bars max when held two
feet over the 4th floor balcony.

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In <[email protected]> on Sat, 04 Dec 2004 18:07:38
GMT, RexYBlue <[email protected]> wrote:

>On Sat, 04 Dec 2004 16:16:52 GMT, John Navas
><[email protected]> wrote:

>>With all respect to Al, a new SIM isn't needed to get the benefits of both
>>networks -- all Cingular subscribers can now roam freely on ATTWS, and vice
>>versa. The only issue is that your Home network will always be selected when
>>there is a "usable" Home signal, even when the other network has a better
>>signal, but that's not generally a problem in practice. The new SIM addresses
>>the issue by treating the two networks as one virtual Home network, but only
>>with a handset that supports ENS.
>
>They why, John, does my v551 with the new SIM, at my home, fail to
>lock onto the much stronger signal that AT&T GSM has available? The
>very same phone with an AT&T SIM card gets 4 - 5 bars anywhere in the
>house. With the new Cingular 64k SIM it's 3 bars max when held two
>feet over the 4th floor balcony.

Probably because the phone doesn't see the Cingular signal as weak.

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John Navas wrote:

> With all respect to Al, a new SIM isn't needed to get the benefits of both
> networks -- all Cingular subscribers can now roam freely on ATTWS, and vice
> versa. The only issue is that your Home network will always be selected when
> there is a "usable" Home signal, even when the other network has a better
> signal, but that's not generally a problem in practice. The new SIM addresses
> the issue by treating the two networks as one virtual Home network, but only
> with a handset that supports ENS.
>

A friend rang up a while ago and asked me... "I picked up a new V551
for my wife last week, and I'm curious if it has this "ENS"
functionality? or is this something I need to deal with as a separate
issue?" I'm clueless about ENS, so maybe you or someone can offer a
better answer.


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Jer wrote:
> John Navas wrote:
>
>> With all respect to Al, a new SIM isn't needed to get the benefits of
>> both
>> networks -- all Cingular subscribers can now roam freely on ATTWS, and
>> vice
>> versa. The only issue is that your Home network will always be
>> selected when
>> there is a "usable" Home signal, even when the other network has a better
>> signal, but that's not generally a problem in practice. The new SIM
>> addresses
>> the issue by treating the two networks as one virtual Home network,
>> but only
>> with a handset that supports ENS.
>>
>
> A friend rang up a while ago and asked me... "I picked up a new V551
> for my wife last week, and I'm curious if it has this "ENS"
> functionality? or is this something I need to deal with as a separate
> issue?" I'm clueless about ENS, so maybe you or someone can offer a
> better answer.
>
>


Sounds like all SIMs sent out after 11/15 should have them...

http://www.howardforums.com/archive/topic/492681-1.html

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In <[email protected]> on Sat, 04 Dec 2004 14:04:01 -0600,
Bob Horvath <[email protected]> wrote:

>> A friend rang up a while ago and asked me... "I picked up a new V551
>> for my wife last week, and I'm curious if it has this "ENS"
>> functionality? or is this something I need to deal with as a separate
>> issue?" I'm clueless about ENS, so maybe you or someone can offer a
>> better answer.
>
>Sounds like all SIMs sent out after 11/15 should have them...
>
>http://www.howardforums.com/archive/topic/492681-1.html

The handset must also support ENS for ENS to work.

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On Sat, 04 Dec 2004 04:27:06 GMT, "DonR" <[email protected]> said
in alt.cellular.cingular:

>I have a 32K Sim. How do I go about exchanging it for a 64K Sim?

In a V551? You should have been given a 64k SIM. Talk to whomever
you bought the phone from. (Some dealers were shipped 32k SIMS with
new phones. Those who didn't complain got stuck with them.)

John Navas wrote:
> [POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]
>
> In <[email protected]> on Sat, 04 Dec 2004 14:04:01 -0600,
> Bob Horvath <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>>>A friend rang up a while ago and asked me... "I picked up a new V551
>>>for my wife last week, and I'm curious if it has this "ENS"
>>>functionality? or is this something I need to deal with as a separate
>>>issue?" I'm clueless about ENS, so maybe you or someone can offer a
>>>better answer.
>>
>>Sounds like all SIMs sent out after 11/15 should have them...
>>
>>http://www.howardforums.com/archive/topic/492681-1.html
>
>
> The handset must also support ENS for ENS to work.
>

The subject of this thread is v551.

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In <[email protected]> on Sat, 04 Dec 2004 22:17:29 -0600,
Bob Horvath <[email protected]> wrote:

>John Navas wrote:

>> The handset must also support ENS for ENS to work.
>
>The subject of this thread is v551.

1. I was responding to material that wasn't specific to the V551:

"Sounds like all SIMs sent out after 11/15 should have them..."

2. Do you know for a fact that the V551 does support ENS?

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