SIM question

I have a Sony T62u GAIT phone and I got it activated on a GAIT plan with a
32k SIM that was in my Sony T616 that I had previously been using with a GSM
Nation plan. After reading some things in this newsgroup about the 64k SIM
being more desirable I was wondering if it was necessary for the GAIT phone
to have a 64k SIM to fully cover all the new AT&T towers that have been
added to Cingular's coverage. Any answers? Thanks

Ben

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In article <1103005178.28bfaabe02b127fd1ed14b39556a5d26@teranews>,
"Ben in TN" <[email protected]> wrote:

> I have a Sony T62u GAIT phone and I got it activated on a GAIT plan with a
> 32k SIM that was in my Sony T616 that I had previously been using with a GSM
> Nation plan. After reading some things in this newsgroup about the 64k SIM
> being more desirable I was wondering if it was necessary for the GAIT phone
> to have a 64k SIM to fully cover all the new AT&T towers that have been
> added to Cingular's coverage. Any answers? Thanks

Yes, but Cingular may not tell you that, or they'd be obligated to give
you one, rather than charge you $20

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In <[email protected]> on Tue, 14 Dec
2004 16:44:51 GMT, Jack Zwick <[email protected]> wrote:

>In article <1103005178.28bfaabe02b127fd1ed14b39556a5d26@teranews>,
> "Ben in TN" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I have a Sony T62u GAIT phone and I got it activated on a GAIT plan with a
>> 32k SIM that was in my Sony T616 that I had previously been using with a GSM
>> Nation plan. After reading some things in this newsgroup about the 64k SIM
>> being more desirable I was wondering if it was necessary for the GAIT phone
>> to have a 64k SIM to fully cover all the new AT&T towers that have been
>> added to Cingular's coverage. Any answers? Thanks
>
>Yes, but Cingular may not tell you that, or they'd be obligated to give
>you one, rather than charge you $20

Actually no -- a standard GAIT SIM will roam on both networks.

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Jack Zwick wrote:
> In article <1103005178.28bfaabe02b127fd1ed14b39556a5d26@teranews>,
> "Ben in TN" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I have a Sony T62u GAIT phone and I got it activated on a GAIT plan
>> with a 32k SIM that was in my Sony T616 that I had previously been
>> using with a GSM Nation plan. After reading some things in this
>> newsgroup about the 64k SIM being more desirable I was wondering if
>> it was necessary for the GAIT phone to have a 64k SIM to fully cover
>> all the new AT&T towers that have been added to Cingular's coverage.
>> Any answers? Thanks
>
> Yes, but Cingular may not tell you that, or they'd be obligated to
> give you one, rather than charge you $20

Is there an easy way to determine whether one has a 32k or 64k sim?


Bill

Before you judge a man, walk a mile in his shoes - After that, who
cares? - He's a mile away and you've got his shoes.

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In <[email protected]> on Tue, 14 Dec 2004
17:20:16 GMT, "Bill" <[email protected]> wrote:

>Jack Zwick wrote:
>> In article <1103005178.28bfaabe02b127fd1ed14b39556a5d26@teranews>,
>> "Ben in TN" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> I have a Sony T62u GAIT phone and I got it activated on a GAIT plan
>>> with a 32k SIM that was in my Sony T616 that I had previously been
>>> using with a GSM Nation plan. After reading some things in this
>>> newsgroup about the 64k SIM being more desirable I was wondering if
>>> it was necessary for the GAIT phone to have a 64k SIM to fully cover
>>> all the new AT&T towers that have been added to Cingular's coverage.
>>> Any answers? Thanks
>>
>> Yes, but Cingular may not tell you that, or they'd be obligated to
>> give you one, rather than charge you $20
>
>Is there an easy way to determine whether one has a 32k or 64k sim?

It's printed right on the SIM.

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In article <[email protected]>,
"Bill" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Jack Zwick wrote:
> > In article <1103005178.28bfaabe02b127fd1ed14b39556a5d26@teranews>,
> > "Ben in TN" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> I have a Sony T62u GAIT phone and I got it activated on a GAIT plan
> >> with a 32k SIM that was in my Sony T616 that I had previously been
> >> using with a GSM Nation plan. After reading some things in this
> >> newsgroup about the 64k SIM being more desirable I was wondering if
> >> it was necessary for the GAIT phone to have a 64k SIM to fully cover
> >> all the new AT&T towers that have been added to Cingular's coverage.
> >> Any answers? Thanks
> >
> > Yes, but Cingular may not tell you that, or they'd be obligated to
> > give you one, rather than charge you $20
>
> Is there an easy way to determine whether one has a 32k or 64k sim?
>
>
> Bill

Open your phone and look at the Sim, it will be appropriately labeled.

"John Navas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
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>
> In <[email protected]> on Tue, 14 Dec
> 2004 16:44:51 GMT, Jack Zwick <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>In article <1103005178.28bfaabe02b127fd1ed14b39556a5d26@teranews>,
>> "Ben in TN" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> I have a Sony T62u GAIT phone and I got it activated on a GAIT plan with
>>> a
>>> 32k SIM that was in my Sony T616 that I had previously been using with a
>>> GSM
>>> Nation plan. After reading some things in this newsgroup about the 64k
>>> SIM
>>> being more desirable I was wondering if it was necessary for the GAIT
>>> phone
>>> to have a 64k SIM to fully cover all the new AT&T towers that have been
>>> added to Cingular's coverage. Any answers? Thanks
>>
>>Yes, but Cingular may not tell you that, or they'd be obligated to give
>>you one, rather than charge you $20
>
> Actually no -- a standard GAIT SIM will roam on both networks.

As I stated above, the SIM actually came with my T616 which is a GSM only
phone and was a 32k chip. If my GAIT phone doesn't need a 64k chip then why
does any Cingular phone need a 64k chip?

> --
> Best regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES:
> John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular>

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In <1103150241.5a3e624e9318607f16b703985820659c@teranews> on Wed, 15 Dec 2004
16:37:23 -0600, "Ben in TN" <[email protected]> wrote:

>As I stated above, the SIM actually came with my T616 which is a GSM only
>phone and was a 32k chip. If my GAIT phone doesn't need a 64k chip then why
>does any Cingular phone need a 64k chip?

It's needed for ENS, which treats both networks as one big virtual network,
rather than a Home network and a roaming network, which can give better
performance where a Home network signal that's weak but still "usable" would
otherwise prevent roaming on a better signal.

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"John Navas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> In <1103150241.5a3e624e9318607f16b703985820659c@teranews> on Wed, 15 Dec
> 2004
> 16:37:23 -0600, "Ben in TN" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>As I stated above, the SIM actually came with my T616 which is a GSM only
>>phone and was a 32k chip. If my GAIT phone doesn't need a 64k chip then
>>why
>>does any Cingular phone need a 64k chip?
>
> It's needed for ENS, which treats both networks as one big virtual
> network,
> rather than a Home network and a roaming network, which can give better
> performance where a Home network signal that's weak but still "usable"
> would
> otherwise prevent roaming on a better signal.

So having a 64k chip would be advantageous for my T62u to give it the best
possible signal strength at all times?

> --
> Best regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES:
> John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular>

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In <1103159989.1f571020f0cda106966ade553b796463@teranews> on Wed, 15 Dec 2004
19:19:52 -0600, "Ben in TN" <[email protected]> wrote:

>"John Navas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>>
>> In <1103150241.5a3e624e9318607f16b703985820659c@teranews> on Wed, 15 Dec
>> 2004
>> 16:37:23 -0600, "Ben in TN" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>As I stated above, the SIM actually came with my T616 which is a GSM only
>>>phone and was a 32k chip. If my GAIT phone doesn't need a 64k chip then
>>>why
>>>does any Cingular phone need a 64k chip?
>>
>> It's needed for ENS, which treats both networks as one big virtual
>> network,
>> rather than a Home network and a roaming network, which can give better
>> performance where a Home network signal that's weak but still "usable"
>> would
>> otherwise prevent roaming on a better signal.
>
>So having a 64k chip would be advantageous for my T62u to give it the best
>possible signal strength at all times?

No, it only matters if the phone supports ENS.

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In article <1103150241.5a3e624e9318607f16b703985820659c@teranews>,
"Ben in TN" <[email protected]> wrote:

> >>Yes, but Cingular may not tell you that, or they'd be obligated to give
> >>you one, rather than charge you $20
> >
> > Actually no -- a standard GAIT SIM will roam on both networks.
>
> As I stated above, the SIM actually came with my T616 which is a GSM only
> phone and was a 32k chip. If my GAIT phone doesn't need a 64k chip then why
> does any Cingular phone need a 64k chip?

Cause it now has more to keep track of the Cingular Netowrk, and the
AT&T Wireless Network.

In article <1103159989.1f571020f0cda106966ade553b796463@teranews>,
"Ben in TN" <[email protected]> wrote:

> So having a 64k chip would be advantageous for my T62u to give it the best
> possible signal strength at all times?

Yes. Its very helpful in some areas, makes little or no difference in
other areas, but Cingular wont ever tell you the truth, cause if they
tell you you should have it, then you might (rightly) expect it for
free, and they'd rather sell it to you for $20.

On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 02:10:16 GMT, Jack Zwick <[email protected]>
said in alt.cellular.cingular:

>Yes. Its very helpful in some areas, makes little or no difference in
>other areas, but Cingular wont ever tell you the truth, cause if they
>tell you you should have it, then you might (rightly) expect it for
>free, and they'd rather sell it to you for $20.

I don't know what company stores are doing, Jack, but I put 64k SIMS
in all the cingular phones I sell. If I need one in my store I can't
give my customers less.

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In <[email protected]> on Thu, 16 Dec
2004 02:10:16 GMT, Jack Zwick <[email protected]> wrote:

>In article <1103159989.1f571020f0cda106966ade553b796463@teranews>,
> "Ben in TN" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> So having a 64k chip would be advantageous for my T62u to give it the best
>> possible signal strength at all times?
>
>Yes. Its very helpful in some areas, makes little or no difference in
>other areas, but Cingular wont ever tell you the truth, cause if they
>tell you you should have it, then you might (rightly) expect it for
>free, and they'd rather sell it to you for $20.

Total nonsense from Chicken Little.

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In <[email protected]> on Thu, 16 Dec
2004 02:08:55 GMT, Jack Zwick <[email protected]> wrote:

>In article <1103150241.5a3e624e9318607f16b703985820659c@teranews>,
> "Ben in TN" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> >>Yes, but Cingular may not tell you that, or they'd be obligated to give
>> >>you one, rather than charge you $20
>> >
>> > Actually no -- a standard GAIT SIM will roam on both networks.
>>
>> As I stated above, the SIM actually came with my T616 which is a GSM only
>> phone and was a 32k chip. If my GAIT phone doesn't need a 64k chip then why
>> does any Cingular phone need a 64k chip?
>
>Cause it now has more to keep track of the Cingular Netowrk, and the
>AT&T Wireless Network.

Nope. Roaming works fine on 32K SIMs.

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