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  1. #1
    bamp
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    I've called customer twice trying to buy a 64K sim. Both times they didn't
    know what I was talking about (they said). My question is; if I buy a 64K
    sim off of Ebay, can I call Cingular customer service and get it activated?

    bamp





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  2. #2
    Wirelessjuan
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    Re: If I buy a 64K sim

    Are you looking to upgrade an exisiting Cingular account or start a new
    account?

    If you are starting a new account it won't be a problem if you are looking
    to upgrade it may be an issue? Of course it depends on the REP that you
    talk to. If you get one that won't just hang up and call again. You'll
    find one that will do what you're looking to do. They should prefer you to
    have the 64K SIM since it handles the service better.

    "bamp" <bampatcenturyteldotnet> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > I've called customer twice trying to buy a 64K sim. Both times they didn't
    > know what I was talking about (they said). My question is; if I buy a 64K
    > sim off of Ebay, can I call Cingular customer service and get it
    > activated?
    >
    > bamp
    >






  3. #3
    bamp
    Guest

    Re: If I buy a 64K sim

    It will be an upgrade.

    Thanks,
    bamp


    "Wirelessjuan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:I1nxd.434$L7.1@trnddc05...
    > Are you looking to upgrade an exisiting Cingular account or start a new
    > account?
    >
    > If you are starting a new account it won't be a problem if you are looking
    > to upgrade it may be an issue? Of course it depends on the REP that you
    > talk to. If you get one that won't just hang up and call again. You'll
    > find one that will do what you're looking to do. They should prefer you
    > to have the 64K SIM since it handles the service better.
    >
    > "bamp" <bampatcenturyteldotnet> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    >> I've called customer twice trying to buy a 64K sim. Both times they
    >> didn't know what I was talking about (they said). My question is; if I
    >> buy a 64K sim off of Ebay, can I call Cingular customer service and get
    >> it activated?
    >>
    >> bamp
    >>

    >
    >






  4. #4
    Fred
    Guest

    Re: If I buy a 64K sim

    Go into a retail store they sould give you the 64K sim for free.

    Fred

    "bamp" <bampatcenturyteldotnet> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > It will be an upgrade.
    >
    > Thanks,
    > bamp
    >
    >
    > "Wirelessjuan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:I1nxd.434$L7.1@trnddc05...
    > > Are you looking to upgrade an exisiting Cingular account or start a new
    > > account?
    > >
    > > If you are starting a new account it won't be a problem if you are

    looking
    > > to upgrade it may be an issue? Of course it depends on the REP that you
    > > talk to. If you get one that won't just hang up and call again. You'll
    > > find one that will do what you're looking to do. They should prefer you
    > > to have the 64K SIM since it handles the service better.
    > >
    > > "bamp" <bampatcenturyteldotnet> wrote in message
    > > news:[email protected]...
    > >> I've called customer twice trying to buy a 64K sim. Both times they
    > >> didn't know what I was talking about (they said). My question is; if I
    > >> buy a 64K sim off of Ebay, can I call Cingular customer service and get
    > >> it activated?
    > >>
    > >> bamp
    > >>

    > >
    > >

    >
    >






  5. #5
    Brsmnky007
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    Re: If I buy a 64K sim

    What exactly is the benefit of a 64k SIM card?





  6. #6
    bamp
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    Re: If I buy a 64K sim


    "Brsmnky007" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > What exactly is the benefit of a 64k SIM card?

    I really don't know, I've read pro & con about them here. So when I saw them
    on Ebay for $9.99 with free shipping, I thought I'd try one just for grins.

    bamp





  7. #7
    Kevin
    Guest

    Re: If I buy a 64K sim

    Hey bamp
    So what did you find out about a 64k sim.

    Shortly after I upgraded to a Nokia 7190 Matrix phone, I had technical
    problems. Cingular SC referred me to the retail store in Tustin, Ca because
    the problem was the 16k sim. I bought the 32k sim for $29.00. I still had
    the same trouble. It turned out to be the network, and my phone was fine.


    "bamp" <bampatcenturyteldotnet> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    >
    > "Brsmnky007" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    >> What exactly is the benefit of a 64k SIM card?

    > I really don't know, I've read pro & con about them here. So when I saw
    > them on Ebay for $9.99 with free shipping, I thought I'd try one just for
    > grins.
    >
    > bamp
    >






  8. #8
    Fred
    Guest

    Re: If I buy a 64K sim

    The 64K card is also supposed to hold more technical information for the
    phone with the inclusion of the AWS towers.

    Fred

    "Kevin" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > Hey bamp
    > So what did you find out about a 64k sim.
    >
    > Shortly after I upgraded to a Nokia 7190 Matrix phone, I had technical
    > problems. Cingular SC referred me to the retail store in Tustin, Ca

    because
    > the problem was the 16k sim. I bought the 32k sim for $29.00. I still

    had
    > the same trouble. It turned out to be the network, and my phone was fine.
    >
    >
    > "bamp" <bampatcenturyteldotnet> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > >
    > > "Brsmnky007" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > > news:[email protected]...
    > >> What exactly is the benefit of a 64k SIM card?

    > > I really don't know, I've read pro & con about them here. So when I saw
    > > them on Ebay for $9.99 with free shipping, I thought I'd try one just

    for
    > > grins.
    > >
    > > bamp
    > >

    >
    >






  9. #9
    Al Klein
    Guest

    Re: If I buy a 64K sim

    On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 09:14:07 -0600, "Brsmnky007"
    <[email protected]> said in alt.cellular.cingular:

    >What exactly is the benefit of a 64k SIM card?


    IF your phone can make use of it, it'll handle both the Cingular and
    the AT&T network as home networks. It usually won't make any
    difference.



  10. #10
    John Navas
    Guest

    Re: If I buy a 64K sim

    [POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]

    In <3joxd.13002$7p.6112@lakeread02> on Sun, 19 Dec 2004 18:39:46 -0500, "Fred"
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    >Go into a retail store they sould give you the 64K sim for free.


    Not true -- you'll have to buy it.

    --
    Best regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES:
    John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular>



  11. #11
    John Navas
    Guest

    Re: If I buy a 64K sim

    [POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]

    In <[email protected]> on Mon, 20 Dec 2004 09:14:07 -0600,
    "Brsmnky007" <[email protected]> wrote:

    >What exactly is the benefit of a 64k SIM card?


    None unless your phone supports ENS.

    --
    Best regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES:
    John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular>



  12. #12
    John Navas
    Guest

    Re: If I buy a 64K sim

    [POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]

    In <B_Lxd.13280$7p.903@lakeread02> on Mon, 20 Dec 2004 21:36:22 -0500, "Fred"
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    >The 64K card is also supposed to hold more technical information for the
    >phone with the inclusion of the AWS towers.


    That is almost certainly an Internet Myth. What it does hold is ENS.

    --
    Best regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES:
    John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular>



  13. #13
    Jer
    Guest

    Re: If I buy a 64K sim

    Brsmnky007 wrote:

    > What exactly is the benefit of a 64k SIM card?
    >
    >



    The story is Cingular is starting to use a new network feature called
    Extended Network Selection (ENS) which presumably allows a handset to
    treat both the orange and blue networks as it's "home" network. The
    additional SIM storage is apparently required by the handset to store a
    more elaborate set of parameters needed to cooperate within an
    ENS-compliant network. Again, this is rumoured to allow the handset to
    lock on to an orange tower or a blue tower, whichever offers the better
    signal. Without ENS, an orange handset will only consider an orange
    signal as "home", completely disregarding any blue signal as "home" even
    though it may be better. The ENS customer gains by having a higher
    number of "home" signals to draw from, and Cingular gains by improved
    balancing of network traffic over both orange and blue networks. It is
    my own opinion that somewhere down the line, this distinction between
    orange and blue will blur until it disappears altogether, rendering ENS
    moot. How many years for that to happen is a crap shoot at this early
    stage.

    What the additional SIM storage will *not* offer additional storage that
    is user accessable, ie. address book entries, media files, messages,
    etc. Apparently this additional storage is usable only by the handset
    firmware, not the user.

    HTH

    --
    jer
    email reply - I am not a 'ten'



  14. #14
    Johnny Rebel
    Guest

    Re: If I buy a 64K sim


    "Jer" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > Brsmnky007 wrote:
    >
    >> What exactly is the benefit of a 64k SIM card?

    >
    >
    > The story is Cingular is starting to use a new network feature called
    > Extended Network Selection (ENS) which presumably allows a handset to
    > treat both the orange and blue networks as it's "home" network. The
    > additional SIM storage is apparently required by the handset to store a
    > more elaborate set of parameters needed to cooperate within an
    > ENS-compliant network. Again, this is rumoured to allow the handset to
    > lock on to an orange tower or a blue tower, whichever offers the better
    > signal. Without ENS, an orange handset will only consider an orange
    > signal as "home", completely disregarding any blue signal as "home" even
    > though it may be better. The ENS customer gains by having a higher number
    > of "home" signals to draw from, and Cingular gains by improved balancing
    > of network traffic over both orange and blue networks. It is my own
    > opinion that somewhere down the line, this distinction between orange and
    > blue will blur until it disappears altogether, rendering ENS moot. How
    > many years for that to happen is a crap shoot at this early stage.
    >
    > What the additional SIM storage will *not* offer additional storage that
    > is user accessable, ie. address book entries, media files, messages, etc.
    > Apparently this additional storage is usable only by the handset firmware,
    > not the user.
    >
    > HTH
    >
    > --
    > jer
    > email reply - I am not a 'ten'


    Is the Moto v400 compatible with ENS and can it use the 64K Sim?

    Thanks.





  15. #15
    Jer
    Guest

    Re: If I buy a 64K sim

    Johnny Rebel wrote:
    > "Jer" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    >
    >>Brsmnky007 wrote:
    >>
    >>
    >>>What exactly is the benefit of a 64k SIM card?

    >>
    >>
    >>The story is Cingular is starting to use a new network feature called
    >>Extended Network Selection (ENS) which presumably allows a handset to
    >>treat both the orange and blue networks as it's "home" network. The
    >>additional SIM storage is apparently required by the handset to store a
    >>more elaborate set of parameters needed to cooperate within an
    >>ENS-compliant network. Again, this is rumoured to allow the handset to
    >>lock on to an orange tower or a blue tower, whichever offers the better
    >>signal. Without ENS, an orange handset will only consider an orange
    >>signal as "home", completely disregarding any blue signal as "home" even
    >>though it may be better. The ENS customer gains by having a higher number
    >>of "home" signals to draw from, and Cingular gains by improved balancing
    >>of network traffic over both orange and blue networks. It is my own
    >>opinion that somewhere down the line, this distinction between orange and
    >>blue will blur until it disappears altogether, rendering ENS moot. How
    >>many years for that to happen is a crap shoot at this early stage.
    >>
    >>What the additional SIM storage will *not* offer additional storage that
    >>is user accessable, ie. address book entries, media files, messages, etc.
    >>Apparently this additional storage is usable only by the handset firmware,
    >>not the user.
    >>
    >>HTH
    >>
    >>--
    >>jer
    >>email reply - I am not a 'ten'

    >
    >
    > Is the Moto v400 compatible with ENS and can it use the 64K Sim?
    >
    > Thanks.
    >
    >


    That's a question many are now asking and I can't honestly offer a
    comprehensive answer. When one looks at various feature lists for any
    given phone, ENS isn't listed. So, either the manufacturers aren't
    providing the information, or ENS is more a network feature instead of a
    phone feature, and any phone with enough SIM storage can be made
    ENS-capable via an OTA update. <shrug>

    --
    jer
    email reply - I am not a 'ten'



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