John Navas - Does Cingular pay you?

In article <[email protected]>,
John Navas <[email protected]> wrote:

> >So you consider what you do a public service, Navas?
>
> I do. Takes a fair amount of work to create a newsgroup like this.

Tell us (a) how many hours you spent doing so, and (b) when that was.

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In <[email protected]> on Mon, 03 Jan 2005
15:35:05 -0500, "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <[email protected]> wrote:

>In article <[email protected]>,
> John Navas <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> >So you consider what you do a public service, Navas?
>>
>> I do. Takes a fair amount of work to create a newsgroup like this.
>
>Tell us (a) how many hours you spent doing so, and (b) when that was.

Why?

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Best regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES:
John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular>

"John Navas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> [POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]
>
> In <[email protected]> on Mon, 03 Jan 2005
> 15:35:05 -0500, "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >In article <[email protected]>,
> > John Navas <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> >So you consider what you do a public service, Navas?
> >>
> >> I do. Takes a fair amount of work to create a newsgroup like this.
> >
> >Tell us (a) how many hours you spent doing so, and (b) when that was.
>
> Why?

Because you claim it takes so much time. Even if you did in fact "create"
this newsgroup you act as though someone else wouldn't have come up wit
hthis unique idea if you hadn't done it. Since you're patting yourself on
the back so hard please explain how much time it takes and what's involved
with "creating a newsgroup". I'm very interested.

Winnie the Pooh started alt.cellular.verizon, and she says it took all
of the time to take the cookies out of the oven.

Who started the other "cellular" groups?

Starting a group is like smacking a fool in the face, it takes no time
at all!

Cheers!

ps: John Navas needs a real job and to get off of his knees in servile
submission to the cell phone dynasties. Or to get some knee pads and
find a few hobbies so he does not irritate so many other posters with
his poppycock.

Maybe he could go into business with Scott Stephenson, say earplugs or
something, for monks in Tibet? Or janitor at the US State Department,
or call taker for one of the cell phone customer service centers
outsourced to India.

JohnF wrote:
> "John Navas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > [POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]
> >
> > In <[email protected]> on Mon, 03
Jan 2005
> > 15:35:05 -0500, "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > >In article <[email protected]>,
> > > John Navas <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > >> >So you consider what you do a public service, Navas?
> > >>
> > >> I do. Takes a fair amount of work to create a newsgroup like
this.
> > >
> > >Tell us (a) how many hours you spent doing so, and (b) when that
was.
> >
> > Why?
>
> Because you claim it takes so much time. Even if you did in fact
"create"
> this newsgroup you act as though someone else wouldn't have come up
wit
> hthis unique idea if you hadn't done it. Since you're patting
yourself on
> the back so hard please explain how much time it takes and what's
involved
> with "creating a newsgroup". I'm very interested.

"CHELSEA" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Winnie the Pooh started alt.cellular.verizon, and she says it took all
> of the time to take the cookies out of the oven.
>
> Who started the other "cellular" groups?
>
> Starting a group is like smacking a fool in the face, it takes no time
> at all!
>
> Cheers!
>
> ps: John Navas needs a real job and to get off of his knees in servile
> submission to the cell phone dynasties. Or to get some knee pads and
> find a few hobbies so he does not irritate so many other posters with
> his poppycock.
>
> Maybe he could go into business with Scott Stephenson, say earplugs or
> something, for monks in Tibet? Or janitor at the US State Department,
> or call taker for one of the cell phone customer service centers
> outsourced to India.
>

No thanks- unlike you, I'm actually quite happy with my life, and don't find
the need to whine, ***** and moan about the great injustices piled on me by
the bullies of the world. In other words- I have control of my life. Try
it some time.

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In <[email protected]> on 3 Jan 2005
15:45:46 -0800, "CHELSEA" <[email protected]> wrote:

>Winnie the Pooh started alt.cellular.verizon, and she says it took all
>of the time to take the cookies out of the oven.
>
>Who started the other "cellular" groups?
>
>Starting a group is like smacking a fool in the face, it takes no time
>at all!

How many successful newsgroups have you created? Or are you just shooting off
your mouth? ;-)

The hard part is not in creating an alt newsgroup, but in doing it right.
alt.cellular.cingular was successful from the beginning because I followed
proper procedures and persuaded major news providers to carry it.

>ps: John Navas needs a real job ...

I have a real job. You need some real manners (unless you enjoy making
yourself look childish).


>JohnF wrote:
>> "John Navas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>> > [POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]
>> >
>> > In <[email protected]> on Mon, 03
>Jan 2005
>> > 15:35:05 -0500, "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> > >In article <[email protected]>,
>> > > John Navas <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> >So you consider what you do a public service, Navas?
>> > >>
>> > >> I do. Takes a fair amount of work to create a newsgroup like
>this.
>> > >
>> > >Tell us (a) how many hours you spent doing so, and (b) when that
>was.
>> >
>> > Why?
>>
>> Because you claim it takes so much time. Even if you did in fact
>"create"
>> this newsgroup you act as though someone else wouldn't have come up
>wit
>> hthis unique idea if you hadn't done it. Since you're patting
>yourself on
>> the back so hard please explain how much time it takes and what's
>involved
>> with "creating a newsgroup". I'm very interested.

--
Best regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES:
John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular>

In article <[email protected]>,
John Navas <[email protected]> wrote:

> >Tell us (a) how many hours you spent doing so, and (b) when that was.
>
> Why?

Context.

You made it sound like you spend lots of your time making the newsgroup
work--when you don't.

No, you spent a few hours a long time ago, and yet you're trying to milk
that for sympathy.

In the words of so many great ones: what have you done for me *lately*?

Nothing.

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In <[email protected]> on Mon, 03 Jan 2005
20:06:49 -0500, "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <[email protected]> wrote:

>In article <[email protected]>,
> John Navas <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> >Tell us (a) how many hours you spent doing so, and (b) when that was.
>>
>> Why?
>
>Context.

Not really. Just redundant.

>You made it sound like you spend lots of your time making the newsgroup
>work--when you don't.

Nope. I said it "takes a fair amount of work to create a newsgroup like
this"* -- and it did (past tense).

>No, you spent a few hours a long time ago,

It took more than a few hours.

>and yet you're trying to milk
>that for sympathy.

Nope. Just stating a relevant fact for those that don't know it.

>In the words of so many great ones: what have you done for me *lately*?
>
>Nothing.

Indeed. But then I have no obligation to do anything for you. Likewise no
interest, since by your conduct you don't deserve anything more than I'm
doing.

*Message-ID: <[email protected]>

--
Best regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES:
John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular>

In article <[email protected]>,
John Navas <[email protected]> wrote:

> >You made it sound like you spend lots of your time making the newsgroup
> >work--when you don't.
>
> Nope. I said it "takes a fair amount of work to create a newsgroup like
> this"* -- and it did (past tense).

Let's put some context to that quote of yours. Here's the FULL exchange:

> >So you consider what you do a public service, Navas?
>
> I do. Takes a fair amount of work to create a newsgroup
> like this. And you?

Hmmmm. Someone asks you about something in the active present tense:
"so you consider what you DO a public service?" See how that works?
What you DO. Not what you DID. What you DO. As in, everything you
post here, all day long, every day. The whole "Navas blowhard" thing.
What you DO. Not what you *did*.

And you said that you DO consider it a public service--and as an
example, you say that "it TAKES (present tense) work to create a
newsgroup..."

Present tense there, Navas? "It TAKES"? What, are you spending lots of
time every day creating and managing things here?

See, we know what you meant. What you meant is that you think you own
this newsgroup, because you think that you are the be-all and end-all of
knowledge. You post to excess, and you think that what you do here is
somehow required of you.

Everything you said, put in CONTEXT, points to you thinking that you
MUST take daily action here, and that you consider that a "public
service".

Let me ask you again, since you so pointedly dodged the question: how
long did it take you to "create" this newsgroup (number of minutes,
hours, days, etc. over how many sessions) and how long ago was that?

Answer that simple question, and then tell us how hard you work TODAY.
And why.

Why would be a great thing to know. Better yet is your telling us just
why you think what you do here is a public service. Not what you DID in
one brief period many, many years ago; what you DO. NOW. TODAY. And
DAILY. EVERY DAY. Why do you consider that a public service?

And why can't you get over the fact that one time, you "created" a
newsgroup? I'll tell you why: because you think this is YOUR
newsgroup, that it belongs to YOU personally, and that if you keep
telling the world that you "created" it maybe the world will "give" it
to you to take home at night and sleep with.

In article <[email protected]>,
John Navas <[email protected]> wrote:

> >you act as though someone else wouldn't have come up wit
> >hthis unique idea if you hadn't done it.
>
> Nobody else had. Talk is cheap. Have you ever created a newsgroup? Have you
> any idea what's involved?

Since you won't tell us.....probably because there's about zero effort
involved, especially nowadays.....and your showing zero effort would
show you to be the blowhard you are, for the world to see...

John Navas wrote:
> [POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]
>
> In <[email protected]> on 3 Jan 2005
> 15:45:46 -0800, "CHELSEA" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>>Winnie the Pooh started alt.cellular.verizon, and she says it took all
>>of the time to take the cookies out of the oven.
>>
>>Who started the other "cellular" groups?
>>
>>Starting a group is like smacking a fool in the face, it takes no time
>>at all!
>
>
> How many successful newsgroups have you created? Or are you just shooting off
> your mouth? ;-)
>
> The hard part is not in creating an alt newsgroup, but in doing it right.
> alt.cellular.cingular was successful from the beginning because I followed
> proper procedures and persuaded major news providers to carry it.
>
>
>>ps: John Navas needs a real job ...
>
>
> I have a real job. You need some real manners (unless you enjoy making
> yourself look childish).
>



I see SMARTASS John Navas is still acting like a jerk on yet ANOTHER
newsgroup. His reputation from comp.dcom.modems still carries on.

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In <[email protected]> on Mon, 03 Jan 2005
22:09:35 -0500, "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <[email protected]> wrote:

>In article <[email protected]>,
> John Navas <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> >you act as though someone else wouldn't have come up wit
>> >hthis unique idea if you hadn't done it.
>>
>> Nobody else had. Talk is cheap. Have you ever created a newsgroup? Have you
>> any idea what's involved?
>
>Since you won't tell us.....probably because there's about zero effort
>involved, especially nowadays.....and your showing zero effort would
>show you to be the blowhard you are, for the world to see...

In other words, you have no clue (as usual).

Go crawl back under your rock.

--
Best regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES:
John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular>

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In <[email protected]> on Mon, 03 Jan 2005 19:15:17 -0800,
John <[email protected]> wrote:

>I see SMARTASS John Navas is still acting like a jerk on yet ANOTHER
>newsgroup. His reputation from comp.dcom.modems still carries on.

In fact quite a good reputation.

Is that the best you can do? ;-)

--
Best regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES:
John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular>

In article <[email protected]>,
John Navas <[email protected]> wrote:

> >> Nobody else had. Talk is cheap. Have you ever created a newsgroup? Have
> >> you
> >> any idea what's involved?
> >
> >Since you won't tell us.....probably because there's about zero effort
> >involved, especially nowadays.....and your showing zero effort would
> >show you to be the blowhard you are, for the world to see...
>
> In other words, you have no clue (as usual).

I have more clue than you can ever know.



> Go crawl back under your rock.

You really don't like me, because I can expose you for the fraud you are.

Dancing with you is enjoyable--because everyone gets to see what a
stumblebum you really are.

Next time: newsgroup 101.

In article <[email protected]>,
John Navas <[email protected]> wrote:

> >Why would be a great thing to know. Better yet is your telling us just
> >why you think what you do here is a public service. Not what you DID in
> >one brief period many, many years ago; what you DO. NOW. TODAY. And
> >DAILY. EVERY DAY. Why do you consider that a public service?
>
> Has value

Bull****. Next.


You spent your entire posting avoiding the question: how long did it
take you to create the newsgroup, and how long ago was that?

Only with that information can we understand what you meant by "creating
a newsgroup is what I do," whatever you meant by that.