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- 01-10-2005, 06:15 PM #1John NavasGuest
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Bluesnarfing is the theft of information from a wireless device
through a Bluetooth connection. Bluetooth is a high-speed but very
short-range wireless technology for exchanging data between desktop
and mobile computers, personal digital assistants (PDAs), and other
devices. By exploiting a vulnerability in the way Bluetooth is
implemented on a mobile phone, an attacker can access information --
such as the user's calendar, contact list and e-mail and text
messages -- without leaving any evidence of the attack. Other devices
that use Bluetooth, such as laptop computers, may also be vulnerable,
although to a lesser extent, by virtue of their more complex systems.
Operating in invisible mode protects some devices, but others are
vulnerable as long as Bluetooth is enabled.
[MORE]
For information, see <http://www.thebunker.net/security/bluetooth.htm>
See also <http://www.giac.org/practical/GCIA/Scott_Renna_GCIA.pdf>, which
describes attack on a Sony Ericsson T610.
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- 01-11-2005, 07:15 AM #2Joe FabeitzGuest
Re: bluesnarfing
A similar article appeared in the December "Wired".
BTW, the url you posted that kicked off the "ringtone" thread seems to have
disappeared. Are you aware?
"John Navas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
<http://searchmobilecomputing.techtar...id40_gci952393,
00.html>
>
> Bluesnarfing is the theft of information from a wireless device
> through a Bluetooth connection. Bluetooth is a high-speed but very
> short-range wireless technology for exchanging data between desktop
> and mobile computers, personal digital assistants (PDAs), and other
> devices. By exploiting a vulnerability in the way Bluetooth is
> implemented on a mobile phone, an attacker can access information --
> such as the user's calendar, contact list and e-mail and text
> messages -- without leaving any evidence of the attack. Other devices
> that use Bluetooth, such as laptop computers, may also be vulnerable,
> although to a lesser extent, by virtue of their more complex systems.
> Operating in invisible mode protects some devices, but others are
> vulnerable as long as Bluetooth is enabled.
>
> [MORE]
>
> For information, see <http://www.thebunker.net/security/bluetooth.htm>
> See also <http://www.giac.org/practical/GCIA/Scott_Renna_GCIA.pdf>, which
> describes attack on a Sony Ericsson T610.
>
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- 01-11-2005, 09:15 AM #3Jack ZwickGuest
Navas ringtones taken down.
In article <[email protected]>,
"Joe Fabeitz" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> BTW, the url you posted that kicked off the "ringtone" thread seems to have
> disappeared. Are you aware?
http://j.navas.home.att.net/johns_ringtones.zip
You mean Navas finally wized up and took down the ringtones that could
have got him in trouble? Or did the RIAA make him do it?
Could it be Navas was actually wrong about something ? He spent a week
posting it was OK for him to make, use and post ringtones.
- 01-11-2005, 10:45 AM #4Joe FabeitzGuest
Re: Navas ringtones taken down.
Oh Boy! Looks my post woke up the "Zwick" guy. Sorry folks.
"Jack Zwick" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In article <[email protected]>,
> "Joe Fabeitz" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >
> > BTW, the url you posted that kicked off the "ringtone" thread seems to
have
> > disappeared. Are you aware?
>
> http://j.navas.home.att.net/johns_ringtones.zip
>
> You mean Navas finally wized up and took down the ringtones that could
> have got him in trouble? Or did the RIAA make him do it?
>
> Could it be Navas was actually wrong about something ? He spent a week
> posting it was OK for him to make, use and post ringtones.
- 01-11-2005, 01:45 PM #5BruceRGuest
Re: Navas ringtones taken down.
Unless the ringtones were actually excerpts of recordings the RIAA would
have nothing to say about. The composer and/or publisher might have a
claim if the copyrighted music were performed but that would be about
10% of the revenue earned.
There's an excellent article on this matter in the Dec '04 issue (#11)
of MobilePC magazine.
From:Jack Zwick
[email protected]
> In article <[email protected]>,
> "Joe Fabeitz" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>> BTW, the url you posted that kicked off the "ringtone" thread seems
>> to have disappeared. Are you aware?
>
> http://j.navas.home.att.net/johns_ringtones.zip
>
> You mean Navas finally wized up and took down the ringtones that could
> have got him in trouble? Or did the RIAA make him do it?
>
> Could it be Navas was actually wrong about something ? He spent a week
> posting it was OK for him to make, use and post ringtones.
- 01-14-2005, 01:15 AM #6John NavasGuest
Re: Navas ringtones taken down.
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In <[email protected]> on Tue, 11 Jan
2005 15:00:27 GMT, Jack Zwick <[email protected]> wrote:
>In article <[email protected]>,
> "Joe Fabeitz" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> BTW, the url you posted that kicked off the "ringtone" thread seems to have
>> disappeared. Are you aware?
>
>http://j.navas.home.att.net/johns_ringtones.zip
>
>You mean Navas finally wized up and took down the ringtones that could
>have got him in trouble?
Nope -- just freed the webspace and bandwidth once interest fell off.
>Or did the RIAA make him do it?
LOL!
>Could it be Navas was actually wrong about something ?
I make mistakes, just like everyone else.
>He spent a week
>posting it was OK for him to make, use and post ringtones.
It was and is OK.
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- 01-14-2005, 06:30 AM #7Jack ZwickGuest
Re: Navas ringtones taken down.
In article <[email protected]>,
"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <[email protected]> wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>,
> John Navas <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > >You mean Navas finally wized up and took down the ringtones that could
> > >have got him in trouble?
> >
> > Nope -- just freed the webspace and bandwidth once interest fell off.
>
> John, you keep telling yourself that. You keep telling the world that.
> You may even believe it.
>
> Trust me when I say that we know what happened, and it had nothing to do
> with your freeing up space/bandwidth.
He had zero other webpages up at that sight, so he had no need to free
up, he did need to be able to tell the authorities he took down
unlicensed ringtones.
- 01-14-2005, 11:15 AM #8John NavasGuest
Re: Navas ringtones taken down.
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In <[email protected]> on Fri, 14 Jan 2005
06:13:23 -0500, "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <[email protected]> wrote:
>In article <[email protected]>,
> John Navas <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> >You mean Navas finally wized up and took down the ringtones that could
>> >have got him in trouble?
>>
>> Nope -- just freed the webspace and bandwidth once interest fell off.
>
>John, you keep telling yourself that. You keep telling the world that.
>You may even believe it.
>
>Trust me when I say that we know what happened, and it had nothing to do
>with your freeing up space/bandwidth.
Just to prove you're full of s___, er baloney, I've put it back up.
(I'll take it back down again when my point has been made.)
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difficult to redirect, awe inspiring, entertaining, and a source of mind
boggling amounts of excrement when you least expect it." --Gene Spafford
- 01-14-2005, 11:30 AM #9John NavasGuest
Re: Navas ringtones taken down.
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In <[email protected]> on Fri, 14 Jan
2005 12:22:49 GMT, Jack "FUDMEISTER" Zwick <[email protected]> wrote:
>In article <[email protected]>,
> "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> In article <[email protected]>,
>> John Navas <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> > >You mean Navas finally wized up and took down the ringtones that could
>> > >have got him in trouble?
>> >
>> > Nope -- just freed the webspace and bandwidth once interest fell off.
>>
>> John, you keep telling yourself that. You keep telling the world that.
>> You may even believe it.
>>
>> Trust me when I say that we know what happened, and it had nothing to do
>> with your freeing up space/bandwidth.
>
>He had zero other webpages up at that sight, so he had no need to free
>up, he did need to be able to tell the authorities he took down
>unlicensed ringtones.
Wrong on both counts. I've actually got lots of webpages and other material
on AT&T Worldnet, private and public, as you'd know if you had any clue.
Case in point:
http://sail.navas.us/ -> http://j.navas.home.att.net/sfba_sail/
Oops! And I've put the ringtones back up for awhile to show the latter
claim to be equally bogus
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Best regards,
John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/>
"A little learning is a dangerous thing." [Alexander Pope]
"It is better to sit in silence and appear ignorant,
than to open your mouth and remove all doubt." [Mark Twain]
- 01-14-2005, 11:30 AM #10John NavasGuest
Re: Navas ringtones taken down.
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In <[email protected]> on Fri, 14 Jan 2005
06:13:39 -0500, "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <[email protected]> wrote:
>In article <[email protected]>,
> John Navas <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> >Could it be Navas was actually wrong about something ?
>>
>> I make mistakes, just like everyone else.
>
>Yeah, like practicing law without a license.
Nope. Again, what part of this don't you understand? "Caveat: I am not a
lawyer, and this is not legal advice -- consult your own attorney."
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- 01-14-2005, 12:15 PM #11Jack ZwickGuest
Re: Navas ringtones taken down.
In article <[email protected]>,
John Navas <[email protected]> wrote:
> [POSTED TO alt.cellular.attws - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]
>
> In <[email protected]> on Fri, 14 Jan
> 2005 12:22:49 GMT, Jack "FUDMEISTER" Zwick <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >In article <[email protected]>,
> > "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> In article <[email protected]>,
> >> John Navas <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >> > >You mean Navas finally wized up and took down the ringtones that could
> >> > >have got him in trouble?
> >> >
> >> > Nope -- just freed the webspace and bandwidth once interest fell off.
> >>
> >> John, you keep telling yourself that. You keep telling the world that.
> >> You may even believe it.
> >>
> >> Trust me when I say that we know what happened, and it had nothing to do
> >> with your freeing up space/bandwidth.
> >
> >He had zero other webpages up at that sight, so he had no need to free
> >up, he did need to be able to tell the authorities he took down
> >unlicensed ringtones.
>
> Wrong on both counts. I've actually got lots of webpages and other material
> on AT&T Worldnet, private and public, as you'd know if you had any clue.
> Case in point:
> http://sail.navas.us/ -> http://j.navas.home.att.net/sfba_sail/
> Oops! And I've put the ringtones back up for awhile to show the latter
> claim to be equally bogus
Right, where are the ringtones, so you can be reported again?
- 01-14-2005, 01:15 PM #12John NavasGuest
Re: Navas ringtones taken down.
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In <[email protected]> on Fri, 14 Jan
2005 18:03:33 GMT, Jack "FUDMEISTER" Zwick <[email protected]> wrote:
>In article <[email protected]>,
> John Navas <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> In <[email protected]> on Fri, 14 Jan
>> 2005 12:22:49 GMT, Jack "FUDMEISTER" Zwick <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >He had zero other webpages up at that sight, so he had no need to free
>> >up, he did need to be able to tell the authorities he took down
>> >unlicensed ringtones.
>>
>> Wrong on both counts. I've actually got lots of webpages and other material
>> on AT&T Worldnet, private and public, as you'd know if you had any clue.
>> Case in point:
>> http://sail.navas.us/ -> http://j.navas.home.att.net/sfba_sail/
>> Oops! And I've put the ringtones back up for awhile to show the latter
>> claim to be equally bogus
>
>Right, where are the ringtones, so you can be reported again?
Right where they were before.
Lots of egg still on your face.
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Best regards,
John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/>
"A little learning is a dangerous thing." [Alexander Pope]
"It is better to sit in silence and appear ignorant,
than to open your mouth and remove all doubt." [Mark Twain]
- 01-14-2005, 11:15 PM #13John NavasGuest
Re: Navas ringtones taken down.
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In <[email protected]> on Fri, 14 Jan 2005
19:06:28 -0500, "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <[email protected]> wrote:
>In article <[email protected]>,
> John Navas <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> >> Trust me when I say that we know what happened, and it had nothing to do
>> >> with your freeing up space/bandwidth.
>> >
>> >He had zero other webpages up at that sight, so he had no need to free
>> >up, he did need to be able to tell the authorities he took down
>> >unlicensed ringtones.
>>
>> Wrong on both counts.
>
>Not true; I've spoken with the people who spoke to YOU.
That's a complete and total lie.
>The world is a much, MUCH larger place than you can imagine.
Should I be afraid?
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- 01-15-2005, 02:15 AM #14Guest
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