Cingular Bill Total - $39.99 Plan

In article <[email protected]>,
Joseph <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 02:34:35 GMT, "(Pete Cresswell)" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >Per Dick:
> >>I got a booklet from Cingular a few days after I activated the phone.
> >>It details your charges.
> >
> >Since they have that info, 'twould be nice if they would render it before
> >rather
> >than after... Isn't there some kind of principle (legal, moral, or
> >otherwise)
> >that the buyer is supposed to be told the price before they make a purchase?
>
> How can they really do that if the taxes and surcharges are not
> standardized? Different localities charge differing amounts and some
> charge more fees and surcharges than others.

There's a new invention that would allow a cellular carrier to tell you
to the penny what a regular monthly bill (minus extras) would be.

That new invention : A COMPUTER

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>
> Wow -- the tax differential in the various states is incredible. I
> really makes a difference. I like the state with only 5.00 in taxes.
>
> My AT&T bill was about 50.00 + a few cents. I live in NJ. I guess the
> Cingular bill will be about the same. I was worried about it being
> more. The taxes on cell phones seem criminal.
>

My Land-Line is $17.50 a Month-

But with Taxes and Fees I pay $33.15

>It was all a sham to
>forestall some need regulation.
>

Haven't you ever heard the saying "Buyer beware"?

Regulation is NOT the answer. ANYTIME government gets involved things go to
hell very quickly. Want to see some real charges that make no sense let the
government get involved.

Keep in mind that cellular is NOT a necessity. Cellulalr is NOT a public
utility. Cellular is a luxury and the government needs to keep their fingers
out of it.


--
John S.
e-mail responses to - john at kiana dot net

In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected]pamfree (John S.) wrote:

> >It was all a sham to
> >forestall some need regulation.
> >
>
> Haven't you ever heard the saying "Buyer beware"?
>
> Regulation is NOT the answer. ANYTIME government gets involved things go to
> hell very quickly. Want to see some real charges that make no sense let the
> government get involved.
>
> Keep in mind that cellular is NOT a necessity. Cellulalr is NOT a public
> utility. Cellular is a luxury and the government needs to keep their fingers
> out of it.

Cellular buys the right to use Public Airwaves, and i subject to
regulation as part of their purchase agreements. Maybe you hadn't heard
of the FCC.

"John S." <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> >It was all a sham to
> >forestall some need regulation.
> >
>
> Haven't you ever heard the saying "Buyer beware"?
>
> Regulation is NOT the answer. ANYTIME government gets involved things go
to
> hell very quickly. Want to see some real charges that make no sense let
the
> government get involved.
>
> Keep in mind that cellular is NOT a necessity. Cellulalr is NOT a public
> utility. Cellular is a luxury and the government needs to keep their
fingers
> out of it.
>
>
> --


Amen.

Per Joseph:
>How can they really do that if the taxes and surcharges are not
>standardized? Different localities charge differing amounts and some
>charge more fees and surcharges than others.

My guess is that if they can ***** it all out on my first monthly bill and every
bill thereafter, they can tell me before I sign on the dotted line.
--
PeteCresswell

> Cellular buys the right to use Public Airwaves, and i subject to
> regulation as part of their purchase agreements. Maybe you hadn't heard
> of the FCC.

Cell Phones are a Part 15 FCC Device.

Meaning they are unregulated the way I read it?

However, the User of the Part 15 device is regulated?

In article <[email protected]>,
"Paw-Paw" <[email protected]> wrote:

> > Cellular buys the right to use Public Airwaves, and i subject to
> > regulation as part of their purchase agreements. Maybe you hadn't heard
> > of the FCC.
>
> Cell Phones are a Part 15 FCC Device.
>
> Meaning they are unregulated the way I read it?
>
> However, the User of the Part 15 device is regulated?

Try

http://wireless.fcc.gov/rules.html

In article <[email protected]>,
"(Pete Cresswell)" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Per Joseph:
> >How can they really do that if the taxes and surcharges are not
> >standardized? Different localities charge differing amounts and some
> >charge more fees and surcharges than others.
>
> My guess is that if they can ***** it all out on my first monthly bill and
> every
> bill thereafter, they can tell me before I sign on the dotted line.

to the penny they can, if they wanted to.

"Jack Zwick" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In article <[email protected]>,
> "(Pete Cresswell)" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Per Joseph:
> > >How can they really do that if the taxes and surcharges are not
> > >standardized? Different localities charge differing amounts and some
> > >charge more fees and surcharges than others.
> >
> > My guess is that if they can ***** it all out on my first monthly bill
and
> > every
> > bill thereafter, they can tell me before I sign on the dotted line.
>
> to the penny they can, if they wanted to.

Really? I didn't realize that the "Overage Crystal Balls" had been
distributed to all of the stores.

Per Scott Stephenson:
>Really? I didn't realize that the "Overage Crystal Balls" had been
>distributed to all of the stores.

Nobody's talking about additional air time - just the basic bill.
--
PeteCresswell

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In <[email protected]> on Thu, 13 Jan
2005 00:13:26 GMT, Jack "CHICKEN LITTLE" Zwick <[email protected]> wrote:

>In article <jChFd.12798$4b.9036@trndny09>,
> "wirelessjuan" <[email protected]> wrote:

>> Fill in the info: https://www.attwireless.com/ocs/bill_estimator.jhtml
>
>Thats for AT&T Wireless customer wanna-bes.
>
>I thought Nov. 15 Cingular turned off those things.

You thought wrong, as usual.

--
Best regards,
John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/>

"A little learning is a dangerous thing." [Alexander Pope]
"It is better to sit in silence and appear ignorant,
than to open your mouth and remove all doubt." [Mark Twain]

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In <[email protected]> on Thu, 13 Jan 2005 18:47:41
-0500, "Paw-Paw" <[email protected]> wrote:

>My Land-Line is $17.50 a Month-
>
>But with Taxes and Fees I pay $33.15

I seriously doubt that. Care to prove me wrong by putting a scan of a current
bill on a website? ;-)

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Best regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES:
John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular>

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In <[email protected]> on Wed, 12 Jan 2005 18:34:46 -0500,
"Ben" <[email protected]> wrote:

>Figure 25% taxes and fees, I'll bet its $49.90. My bill with ATTws, base is
>$69.95, after taxes and fees $95.75.

I seriously doubt that. Care to prove me wrong by putting a scan of a current
bill on a website? ;-)

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Best regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES:
John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular>

Since I don't have a Scanner right now that works-

(1)- Federal Universal Service Charge- $.60

(2)- Residential Line includes Touch-tone- $17.45

(3)- FCC Authorized charge for Network Access- $6.76

(4)- Other Services- $4.50

(5)- 911 Charge- $1.50

(6)- Federal Excise Tax- $.92

(7)- Ga State /Local Sakes Tax- $1.43


And, If you will give me a Mailing Address, I'll be glad to post you a copy
of the Bill you can pursue at your leisure , just in case the numbers don't
add up on your Calculator :-)




"John Navas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> [POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]
>
> In <[email protected]> on Thu, 13 Jan 2005
> 18:47:41
> -0500, "Paw-Paw" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>My Land-Line is $17.50 a Month-
>>
>>But with Taxes and Fees I pay $33.15
>
> I seriously doubt that. Care to prove me wrong by putting a scan of a
> current
> bill on a website? ;-)
>
> --
> Best regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES:
> John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular>