CA cingular, ATTWS, Tmobile changed roaming behaviour

Hello all,

Since y'day I noticed the following here in Foster City CA USA

1. My Cingular phone can no longer use ATTWS network. This is used to
work after the merger.
2. My ATTWS can no longer use Cingular network. This used to work
before merger too.
3. Mt Tmobile phone now can work in both Cingular/ATTWS. This is new!
Earlier it used to work only in Cingular.
What is happening? Any insider info? Or they have messed up?

-akm

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I have the same problem, I hope this will be resolved soon. I had Sprint PCS
for use in Foster City (weak signal) and just recently switched to Cingular.
For about a month service was great and now it is gone completely, in my
house. Just few blocks from my home I can dial but signal strenght is very
week.

Anybody knows what is going on ? Did anybody call Cingular ?

Tad



"akm" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hello all,
>
> Since y'day I noticed the following here in Foster City CA USA
>
> 1. My Cingular phone can no longer use ATTWS network. This is used to
> work after the merger.
> 2. My ATTWS can no longer use Cingular network. This used to work
> before merger too.
> 3. Mt Tmobile phone now can work in both Cingular/ATTWS. This is new!
> Earlier it used to work only in Cingular.
> What is happening? Any insider info? Or they have messed up?
>
> -akm
>

No use calling Cingular, unless you know their CTO. Those
dumb a**es on the phone wouldn't even know that you can
select network on the phone. This coincided with the Tmobile phones
starting to work on AT&T network. I had heard that original AT&T
network in CA will eventually be transferred to Tmobile.
But that was suppose to happen later. Are they doing
rehearsal for that? I have asked couple of other friends in
San Jose to confirm that it is not a local problem in Foster City.
Can anyone else confirm please?

Thanks
-akm

It looks like I will be looking for another service soon. Why is wireless
coverage in Foster City so lousy? I had the same problem with Cingular 2
years ago, when we moved in to Foster City. I used Sprint PCS for 2 years
but their signal was just a little bit stronger. I switched back to Cingular
and for a month I enjoyed relatively good signal, but now it looks like
that's over.
Did you try any other carriers in Foster City ? is Verizon any good ?

Tad

"akm" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> No use calling Cingular, unless you know their CTO. Those
> dumb a**es on the phone wouldn't even know that you can
> select network on the phone. This coincided with the Tmobile phones
> starting to work on AT&T network. I had heard that original AT&T
> network in CA will eventually be transferred to Tmobile.
> But that was suppose to happen later. Are they doing
> rehearsal for that? I have asked couple of other friends in
> San Jose to confirm that it is not a local problem in Foster City.
> Can anyone else confirm please?
>
> Thanks
> -akm
>

> Since y'day I noticed the following here in Foster City CA USA
>
> 1. My Cingular phone can no longer use ATTWS network. This is used to
> work after the merger.

You're not alone. Just noticed the same thing myself in Redwood City. Our
bicycle shop has a Cingular cell site on its roof, so naturally enough,
Cingular is what I'd get on my phone. Until a couple days ago, that is, when
AT&T now shows up. Plus, I'm losing signal in a few places that I'd
previously gotten a great signal shortly after the merger.

--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReactionBicycles.com

But the original Cingular customers in Foster City area are
not able to use ATTWS network anymore. My friend in San Jose
could use ATTWS after few tries (He is also Cingular user).
Looks like problem is local to Foster City area.

I again tried all the combinations. Now:

1. Cingular can only use ATTWS.
2. ATTWS can use both Cingular as well as ATTWS
3. Tmobile can use both Cingular and ATTWS

To answer Tad's question re. coverage in Foster City: I will rate
them in the following order (based on my own experience)
1. Verizon
2. ATTWS and Tmobile (as both have access to both Cingular and ATTWS)
3. Cingular: hopefully this will be fixed and should be same as
ATTWS/Tmobile. After the merger there should not be any difference
between ATTWS and Cingular. But unfortuantely, it is seems they
are still working on the merger.
4. Sprint
-a

In Mountain View I could use ATTWS network with my Cingular phone.
Now I can confirm that the problem is in Foster City area only.

What should we do? I am sure cingular phone support cannot help.
May be I will post an email and hopefully it will reach someone who
will understand what I wrote

-a

If TMo now has the better signal in Foster City maybe you should switch.
If the Cingular service is unusable you should be able to get out of you
contract if they've decided not to provide good coverage.

From:akm
[email protected]

> In Mountain View I could use ATTWS network with my Cingular phone.
> Now I can confirm that the problem is in Foster City area only.
>
> What should we do? I am sure cingular phone support cannot help.
> May be I will post an email and hopefully it will reach someone who
> will understand what I wrote
>
> -a

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In <[email protected]> on 21 Jan 2005
14:38:28 -0800, "akm" <[email protected]> wrote:

>Since y'day I noticed the following here in Foster City CA USA
>
>1. My Cingular phone can no longer use ATTWS network. This is used to
>work after the merger.

Still working fine for me in the same location.

--
Best regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES:
John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular>

I have had Cingular for more than a month and in the beginning signal was
very strong, but since Sunday I can no longer dial or receive calls from my
home in Foster City. Went to a local Cingular store and they seem to be
aware of the problem. They took my phone number and was told that they will
try to remotely reprogram my telephone so it will use ATTWS network instead
of Cingular . That was 3 days ago and there still not signal. Anybody has
any idea if this will be a permanent situation. I had Cingular 2 years ago
and the reason I switched , then, to Sprint was that there was no signal in
my home (Foster City). I did not like Sprint and went back to Cingular after
the merger with ATTWS hoping that signal will be ok now. It did work that
was until this sunday . Should I look for another carrier. I have just
signed 2 year contract. Any ideas ?

Tad


"John Navas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> [POSTED TO alt.cellular.attws - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]
>
> In <[email protected]> on 21 Jan 2005
> 14:38:28 -0800, "akm" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Since y'day I noticed the following here in Foster City CA USA
>>
>>1. My Cingular phone can no longer use ATTWS network. This is used to
>>work after the merger.
>
> Still working fine for me in the same location.
>
> --
> Best regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES:
> John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular>

John,

I don't know whats happening. My Cingular phone does not roam
(even when forced) into ATTWS net in Foster City. But in rest of the
bay
area it works fine!

Can you send me the cell tower ids that you talk to?
For me Cingular is: 05452
and ATTWS: 20772

-ajay

How do I find out ? Tad

"akm" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> John,
>
> I don't know whats happening. My Cingular phone does not roam
> (even when forced) into ATTWS net in Foster City. But in rest of the
> bay
> area it works fine!
>
> Can you send me the cell tower ids that you talk to?
> For me Cingular is: 05452
> and ATTWS: 20772
>
> -ajay
>

If you have Nokia seriese 60 phones (3650/n-gage/6600 etc.) you could
install
this cute little app:
http://my-symbian.com/7650/applicati...Auto=608&faq=2

The SMan app in for SE P800/900 can also display cell tower
http://my-symbian.com/uiq/applicatio...Auto=213&faq=2
Also there might be AT commands to find the cell tower.

-a