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- 02-16-2005, 04:52 AM #1Douglas E. MorrisGuest
Heyya All,
Let me say thank you in advance to all of you for taking the time to
read this message. I am looking for a new cingular phone, I would
perfer a Nokia, but would go to another vendor if the reasons were good
enough. I see all the neat EDGE/GPRS stuff available now a days which
is great, but I need to be able to do the good old CSD where I can dial
into a phone number of my choice.
I have read conflicting information about weather GSM can do CSD, and if
it can how well it is supported. I have also seen reference to HSCSD
but get the feeling that is not supported in the US anywhere. If there
is a way to accomplish what I want without CSD I might also consider
that, but I hate to pay per kb and would rather pay per min on a
connection as when I dial in it is short, and I will squeze as much data
over the pipe as possible.
Thanks again for any ideas or suggestions.
Doug Morris
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- 02-16-2005, 07:01 AM #2HierophantGuest
Re: CSD and EDGE/GPRS
"Douglas E. Morris" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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| Heyya All,
|
|
| Let me say thank you in advance to all of you for taking the time to
| read this message. I am looking for a new cingular phone, I would
| perfer a Nokia, but would go to another vendor if the reasons were good
| enough. I see all the neat EDGE/GPRS stuff available now a days which
| is great, but I need to be able to do the good old CSD where I can dial
| into a phone number of my choice.
|
| I have read conflicting information about weather GSM can do CSD, and if
| it can how well it is supported. I have also seen reference to HSCSD
| but get the feeling that is not supported in the US anywhere. If there
| is a way to accomplish what I want without CSD I might also consider
| that, but I hate to pay per kb and would rather pay per min on a
| connection as when I dial in it is short, and I will squeze as much data
| over the pipe as possible.
|
| Thanks again for any ideas or suggestions.
|
CSD is supported on GSM, but I have read where people are having trouble
getting Cingular to activate it now. It is (in my area) 9600bps. HSCD is
also not available in my area. I don't know if it is anywhere else on
Cingular or not. I personally opted for the (now defunct) $19.99 Media Works
plan with unlimited GPRS after using CSD a few times.
- 02-16-2005, 07:59 AM #3Douglas E. MorrisGuest
Re: CSD and EDGE/GPRS
Hierophant wrote:
> "Douglas E. Morris" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> | Heyya All,
> |
> |
> | Let me say thank you in advance to all of you for taking the time to
> | read this message. I am looking for a new cingular phone, I would
> | perfer a Nokia, but would go to another vendor if the reasons were good
> | enough. I see all the neat EDGE/GPRS stuff available now a days which
> | is great, but I need to be able to do the good old CSD where I can dial
> | into a phone number of my choice.
> |
> | I have read conflicting information about weather GSM can do CSD, and if
> | it can how well it is supported. I have also seen reference to HSCSD
> | but get the feeling that is not supported in the US anywhere. If there
> | is a way to accomplish what I want without CSD I might also consider
> | that, but I hate to pay per kb and would rather pay per min on a
> | connection as when I dial in it is short, and I will squeze as much data
> | over the pipe as possible.
> |
> | Thanks again for any ideas or suggestions.
> |
>
> CSD is supported on GSM, but I have read where people are having trouble
> getting Cingular to activate it now. It is (in my area) 9600bps. HSCD is
> also not available in my area. I don't know if it is anywhere else on
> Cingular or not. I personally opted for the (now defunct) $19.99 Media Works
> plan with unlimited GPRS after using CSD a few times.
>
>
$19.99 for unlimited GPRS? I thought it was $80.00 for unlimited, if I
can get unlimited for $20, that is not bad.
Doug
p.s. What is the magic to get cingular to add CSD to the account? What
is the feature name?
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- 02-16-2005, 09:11 AM #4mcGuest
Re: CSD and EDGE/GPRS
Just out of curiosity, what type of service do you need to actually
dial into? Using gprs, can't you just telnet, or use a vpn, or
whatever, to get to where you need to go?
Again, just curious.
- 02-16-2005, 12:54 PM #5Douglas E. MorrisGuest
Re: CSD and EDGE/GPRS
mc wrote:
> Just out of curiosity, what type of service do you need to actually
> dial into? Using gprs, can't you just telnet, or use a vpn, or
> whatever, to get to where you need to go?
>
> Again, just curious.
>
Private Corp Network that is not connected to the internet.
Doug
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- 02-16-2005, 06:07 PM #6J.J.Guest
Re: CSD and EDGE/GPRS
I am interested in CSD also, since I would only use my cell phone for data
intermittently. Can I just ask for CSD, and will they charge me? How much?
"Douglas E. Morris" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Heyya All,
>
>
> Let me say thank you in advance to all of you for taking the time to read
> this message. I am looking for a new cingular phone, I would perfer a
> Nokia, but would go to another vendor if the reasons were good enough. I
> see all the neat EDGE/GPRS stuff available now a days which is great, but
> I need to be able to do the good old CSD where I can dial into a phone
> number of my choice.
>
> I have read conflicting information about weather GSM can do CSD, and if
> it can how well it is supported. I have also seen reference to HSCSD but
> get the feeling that is not supported in the US anywhere. If there is a
> way to accomplish what I want without CSD I might also consider that, but
> I hate to pay per kb and would rather pay per min on a connection as when
> I dial in it is short, and I will squeze as much data over the pipe as
> possible.
>
> Thanks again for any ideas or suggestions.
>
> Doug Morris
>
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- 02-16-2005, 06:37 PM #7HierophantGuest
Re: CSD and EDGE/GPRS
"Douglas E. Morris" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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| Hierophant wrote:
| > "Douglas E. Morris" <[email protected]> wrote in message
| > news:[email protected]...
| > | Heyya All,
| > |
| > |
| > | Let me say thank you in advance to all of you for taking the time to
| > | read this message. I am looking for a new cingular phone, I would
| > | perfer a Nokia, but would go to another vendor if the reasons were
good
| > | enough. I see all the neat EDGE/GPRS stuff available now a days which
| > | is great, but I need to be able to do the good old CSD where I can
dial
| > | into a phone number of my choice.
| > |
| > | I have read conflicting information about weather GSM can do CSD, and
if
| > | it can how well it is supported. I have also seen reference to HSCSD
| > | but get the feeling that is not supported in the US anywhere. If
there
| > | is a way to accomplish what I want without CSD I might also consider
| > | that, but I hate to pay per kb and would rather pay per min on a
| > | connection as when I dial in it is short, and I will squeze as much
data
| > | over the pipe as possible.
| > |
| > | Thanks again for any ideas or suggestions.
| > |
| >
| > CSD is supported on GSM, but I have read where people are having trouble
| > getting Cingular to activate it now. It is (in my area) 9600bps. HSCD is
| > also not available in my area. I don't know if it is anywhere else on
| > Cingular or not. I personally opted for the (now defunct) $19.99 Media
Works
| > plan with unlimited GPRS after using CSD a few times.
| >
| >
|
| $19.99 for unlimited GPRS? I thought it was $80.00 for unlimited, if I
| can get unlimited for $20, that is not bad.
|
With the new plans, it is now 24.99 I think. The MediaWorks with the new
plans is ony 3MB limit.
- 02-16-2005, 06:40 PM #8HierophantGuest
Re: CSD and EDGE/GPRS
"J.J." <[email protected]> wrote in message
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|I am interested in CSD also, since I would only use my cell phone for data
| intermittently. Can I just ask for CSD, and will they charge me? How
much?
They used to offer CSD for an additional $3.99/month. It was a feature
called "Wireless Internet". The GPRS/EDGE feature was (is) "Wireless
Internet Express". From some past reading on Howardforums, some people are
having trouble getting it (Wireless Internet) activated now. I guess they
are pushing GPRS/EDGE instead to replace it. I haven't tried lately, but it
used to be activated on my MEdia Works plan also.
- 02-17-2005, 09:26 PM #9Verne AraseGuest
Re: CSD and EDGE/GPRS
On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 09:11:59 -0600, mc wrote
(in article <[email protected]>):
> Just out of curiosity, what type of service do you need to actually
> dial into? Using gprs, can't you just telnet, or use a vpn, or
> whatever, to get to where you need to go?
Think of Cingular as an ISP, and grps as your POP.
You can get email, but it's not great. No nntp servers, and you're behind a
10.x.x.x NAT so no external access, but they don't seem to be blocking any
ports (or weren't when I last looked).
- 02-18-2005, 09:19 PM #10Guest
Re: CSD and EDGE/GPRS
I recently got a contract from Cingular. They told me it was necessary
to pay $3.99 for CSD access.
I didn't do it because I've got GPRS & understand that it works
essentially everywhere GSM works.
If this isn't true I'll opt for CSD also.
Dave
- 02-19-2005, 05:34 AM #11J.J.Guest
Re: CSD and EDGE/GPRS
But don't you pay much more for GPRS than you would for CSD?
<[email protected]> wrote in message
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>I recently got a contract from Cingular. They told me it was necessary
> to pay $3.99 for CSD access.
>
> I didn't do it because I've got GPRS & understand that it works
> essentially everywhere GSM works.
>
> If this isn't true I'll opt for CSD also.
>
> Dave
>
- 02-19-2005, 12:02 PM #12Guest
Re: CSD and EDGE/GPRS
Yes, gprs is $20/mo, but grps is 30 kpbs average, on 24/7 and does not
deduct from minutes.
CSD is 9.6 kbps, on only when you dial, and deducts from your minutes
pools; hence it is only "free" 9pm-6am & on weekends.
- 02-19-2005, 02:52 PM #13Douglas E. MorrisGuest
Re: CSD and EDGE/GPRS
[email protected] wrote:
> Yes, gprs is $20/mo, but grps is 30 kpbs average, on 24/7 and does not
> deduct from minutes.
You seem to forget that you pay per the amount of data you use on GPRS
and not on CSD. Also, with CSD nights and weekends would apply.
Doug
>
> CSD is 9.6 kbps, on only when you dial, and deducts from your minutes
> pools; hence it is only "free" 9pm-6am & on weekends.
>
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- 02-19-2005, 03:06 PM #14J.J.Guest
Re: CSD and EDGE/GPRS
So if you activate CSD, do you need a separate ISP?
"Douglas E. Morris" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> [email protected] wrote:
>> Yes, gprs is $20/mo, but grps is 30 kpbs average, on 24/7 and does not
>> deduct from minutes.
>
> You seem to forget that you pay per the amount of data you use on GPRS and
> not on CSD. Also, with CSD nights and weekends would apply.
>
>
> Doug
>>
>> CSD is 9.6 kbps, on only when you dial, and deducts from your minutes
>> pools; hence it is only "free" 9pm-6am & on weekends.
>>
>
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- 02-19-2005, 04:58 PM #15Guest
Re: CSD and EDGE/GPRS
Unlimited MEdiaWorks.is $20/mo.
Yes, nights & weekends apply to CSD.
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