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  1. #1
    Douglas E. Morris
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    Heyya All,


    Let me say thank you in advance to all of you for taking the time to
    read this message. I am looking for a new cingular phone, I would
    perfer a Nokia, but would go to another vendor if the reasons were good
    enough. I see all the neat EDGE/GPRS stuff available now a days which
    is great, but I need to be able to do the good old CSD where I can dial
    into a phone number of my choice.

    I have read conflicting information about weather GSM can do CSD, and if
    it can how well it is supported. I have also seen reference to HSCSD
    but get the feeling that is not supported in the US anywhere. If there
    is a way to accomplish what I want without CSD I might also consider
    that, but I hate to pay per kb and would rather pay per min on a
    connection as when I dial in it is short, and I will squeze as much data
    over the pipe as possible.

    Thanks again for any ideas or suggestions.

    Doug Morris

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  2. #2
    Hierophant
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    Re: CSD and EDGE/GPRS


    "Douglas E. Morris" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    | Heyya All,
    |
    |
    | Let me say thank you in advance to all of you for taking the time to
    | read this message. I am looking for a new cingular phone, I would
    | perfer a Nokia, but would go to another vendor if the reasons were good
    | enough. I see all the neat EDGE/GPRS stuff available now a days which
    | is great, but I need to be able to do the good old CSD where I can dial
    | into a phone number of my choice.
    |
    | I have read conflicting information about weather GSM can do CSD, and if
    | it can how well it is supported. I have also seen reference to HSCSD
    | but get the feeling that is not supported in the US anywhere. If there
    | is a way to accomplish what I want without CSD I might also consider
    | that, but I hate to pay per kb and would rather pay per min on a
    | connection as when I dial in it is short, and I will squeze as much data
    | over the pipe as possible.
    |
    | Thanks again for any ideas or suggestions.
    |

    CSD is supported on GSM, but I have read where people are having trouble
    getting Cingular to activate it now. It is (in my area) 9600bps. HSCD is
    also not available in my area. I don't know if it is anywhere else on
    Cingular or not. I personally opted for the (now defunct) $19.99 Media Works
    plan with unlimited GPRS after using CSD a few times.





  3. #3
    Douglas E. Morris
    Guest

    Re: CSD and EDGE/GPRS

    Hierophant wrote:
    > "Douglas E. Morris" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > | Heyya All,
    > |
    > |
    > | Let me say thank you in advance to all of you for taking the time to
    > | read this message. I am looking for a new cingular phone, I would
    > | perfer a Nokia, but would go to another vendor if the reasons were good
    > | enough. I see all the neat EDGE/GPRS stuff available now a days which
    > | is great, but I need to be able to do the good old CSD where I can dial
    > | into a phone number of my choice.
    > |
    > | I have read conflicting information about weather GSM can do CSD, and if
    > | it can how well it is supported. I have also seen reference to HSCSD
    > | but get the feeling that is not supported in the US anywhere. If there
    > | is a way to accomplish what I want without CSD I might also consider
    > | that, but I hate to pay per kb and would rather pay per min on a
    > | connection as when I dial in it is short, and I will squeze as much data
    > | over the pipe as possible.
    > |
    > | Thanks again for any ideas or suggestions.
    > |
    >
    > CSD is supported on GSM, but I have read where people are having trouble
    > getting Cingular to activate it now. It is (in my area) 9600bps. HSCD is
    > also not available in my area. I don't know if it is anywhere else on
    > Cingular or not. I personally opted for the (now defunct) $19.99 Media Works
    > plan with unlimited GPRS after using CSD a few times.
    >
    >


    $19.99 for unlimited GPRS? I thought it was $80.00 for unlimited, if I
    can get unlimited for $20, that is not bad.

    Doug

    p.s. What is the magic to get cingular to add CSD to the account? What
    is the feature name?


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  4. #4
    mc
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    Re: CSD and EDGE/GPRS

    Just out of curiosity, what type of service do you need to actually
    dial into? Using gprs, can't you just telnet, or use a vpn, or
    whatever, to get to where you need to go?

    Again, just curious.




  5. #5
    Douglas E. Morris
    Guest

    Re: CSD and EDGE/GPRS

    mc wrote:
    > Just out of curiosity, what type of service do you need to actually
    > dial into? Using gprs, can't you just telnet, or use a vpn, or
    > whatever, to get to where you need to go?
    >
    > Again, just curious.
    >


    Private Corp Network that is not connected to the internet.

    Doug

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  6. #6
    J.J.
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    Re: CSD and EDGE/GPRS

    I am interested in CSD also, since I would only use my cell phone for data
    intermittently. Can I just ask for CSD, and will they charge me? How much?


    "Douglas E. Morris" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > Heyya All,
    >
    >
    > Let me say thank you in advance to all of you for taking the time to read
    > this message. I am looking for a new cingular phone, I would perfer a
    > Nokia, but would go to another vendor if the reasons were good enough. I
    > see all the neat EDGE/GPRS stuff available now a days which is great, but
    > I need to be able to do the good old CSD where I can dial into a phone
    > number of my choice.
    >
    > I have read conflicting information about weather GSM can do CSD, and if
    > it can how well it is supported. I have also seen reference to HSCSD but
    > get the feeling that is not supported in the US anywhere. If there is a
    > way to accomplish what I want without CSD I might also consider that, but
    > I hate to pay per kb and would rather pay per min on a connection as when
    > I dial in it is short, and I will squeze as much data over the pipe as
    > possible.
    >
    > Thanks again for any ideas or suggestions.
    >
    > Doug Morris
    >
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  7. #7
    Hierophant
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    Re: CSD and EDGE/GPRS


    "Douglas E. Morris" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    | Hierophant wrote:
    | > "Douglas E. Morris" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    | > news:[email protected]...
    | > | Heyya All,
    | > |
    | > |
    | > | Let me say thank you in advance to all of you for taking the time to
    | > | read this message. I am looking for a new cingular phone, I would
    | > | perfer a Nokia, but would go to another vendor if the reasons were
    good
    | > | enough. I see all the neat EDGE/GPRS stuff available now a days which
    | > | is great, but I need to be able to do the good old CSD where I can
    dial
    | > | into a phone number of my choice.
    | > |
    | > | I have read conflicting information about weather GSM can do CSD, and
    if
    | > | it can how well it is supported. I have also seen reference to HSCSD
    | > | but get the feeling that is not supported in the US anywhere. If
    there
    | > | is a way to accomplish what I want without CSD I might also consider
    | > | that, but I hate to pay per kb and would rather pay per min on a
    | > | connection as when I dial in it is short, and I will squeze as much
    data
    | > | over the pipe as possible.
    | > |
    | > | Thanks again for any ideas or suggestions.
    | > |
    | >
    | > CSD is supported on GSM, but I have read where people are having trouble
    | > getting Cingular to activate it now. It is (in my area) 9600bps. HSCD is
    | > also not available in my area. I don't know if it is anywhere else on
    | > Cingular or not. I personally opted for the (now defunct) $19.99 Media
    Works
    | > plan with unlimited GPRS after using CSD a few times.
    | >
    | >
    |
    | $19.99 for unlimited GPRS? I thought it was $80.00 for unlimited, if I
    | can get unlimited for $20, that is not bad.
    |

    With the new plans, it is now 24.99 I think. The MediaWorks with the new
    plans is ony 3MB limit.





  8. #8
    Hierophant
    Guest

    Re: CSD and EDGE/GPRS


    "J.J." <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    |I am interested in CSD also, since I would only use my cell phone for data
    | intermittently. Can I just ask for CSD, and will they charge me? How
    much?

    They used to offer CSD for an additional $3.99/month. It was a feature
    called "Wireless Internet". The GPRS/EDGE feature was (is) "Wireless
    Internet Express". From some past reading on Howardforums, some people are
    having trouble getting it (Wireless Internet) activated now. I guess they
    are pushing GPRS/EDGE instead to replace it. I haven't tried lately, but it
    used to be activated on my MEdia Works plan also.





  9. #9
    Verne Arase
    Guest

    Re: CSD and EDGE/GPRS

    On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 09:11:59 -0600, mc wrote
    (in article <[email protected]>):

    > Just out of curiosity, what type of service do you need to actually
    > dial into? Using gprs, can't you just telnet, or use a vpn, or
    > whatever, to get to where you need to go?


    Think of Cingular as an ISP, and grps as your POP.

    You can get email, but it's not great. No nntp servers, and you're behind a
    10.x.x.x NAT so no external access, but they don't seem to be blocking any
    ports (or weren't when I last looked).




  10. #10

    Re: CSD and EDGE/GPRS

    I recently got a contract from Cingular. They told me it was necessary
    to pay $3.99 for CSD access.

    I didn't do it because I've got GPRS & understand that it works
    essentially everywhere GSM works.

    If this isn't true I'll opt for CSD also.

    Dave




  11. #11
    J.J.
    Guest

    Re: CSD and EDGE/GPRS

    But don't you pay much more for GPRS than you would for CSD?


    <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    >I recently got a contract from Cingular. They told me it was necessary
    > to pay $3.99 for CSD access.
    >
    > I didn't do it because I've got GPRS & understand that it works
    > essentially everywhere GSM works.
    >
    > If this isn't true I'll opt for CSD also.
    >
    > Dave
    >






  12. #12

    Re: CSD and EDGE/GPRS

    Yes, gprs is $20/mo, but grps is 30 kpbs average, on 24/7 and does not
    deduct from minutes.

    CSD is 9.6 kbps, on only when you dial, and deducts from your minutes
    pools; hence it is only "free" 9pm-6am & on weekends.




  13. #13
    Douglas E. Morris
    Guest

    Re: CSD and EDGE/GPRS

    [email protected] wrote:
    > Yes, gprs is $20/mo, but grps is 30 kpbs average, on 24/7 and does not
    > deduct from minutes.


    You seem to forget that you pay per the amount of data you use on GPRS
    and not on CSD. Also, with CSD nights and weekends would apply.


    Doug
    >
    > CSD is 9.6 kbps, on only when you dial, and deducts from your minutes
    > pools; hence it is only "free" 9pm-6am & on weekends.
    >


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  14. #14
    J.J.
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    Re: CSD and EDGE/GPRS

    So if you activate CSD, do you need a separate ISP?


    "Douglas E. Morris" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > [email protected] wrote:
    >> Yes, gprs is $20/mo, but grps is 30 kpbs average, on 24/7 and does not
    >> deduct from minutes.

    >
    > You seem to forget that you pay per the amount of data you use on GPRS and
    > not on CSD. Also, with CSD nights and weekends would apply.
    >
    >
    > Doug
    >>
    >> CSD is 9.6 kbps, on only when you dial, and deducts from your minutes
    >> pools; hence it is only "free" 9pm-6am & on weekends.
    >>

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  15. #15

    Re: CSD and EDGE/GPRS

    Unlimited MEdiaWorks.is $20/mo.

    Yes, nights & weekends apply to CSD.




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