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  1. #1
    Mr.~G.
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    I've been chasing down the international phone use threads and this is what
    I think I've read.

    1 - Phone must be unlocked - allows you to use non- Cingular sim

    2 - Buy local (European) sim - allows you to place calls there. Calling the
    US is considered a toll.

    3 - Buy local (European) calling card and use it with local sim to call US
    at best rates.

    4 - International Roaming is bad news ($0.99 / min. If you sign up for
    Cingular's plan at $5.99 / month or $1.29 / min. if you don't)

    5 - US folks calling you buy calling card and call your European number at
    best rate or pay customary international rates on their land phones.

    6 - US folks calling you from their cell phones pay high rates ($1.49 /
    min.) unless they sign up for Cingular's international plan at $3.95 / month
    in which case the per minute

    rate is $0.19)


    Did I miss anything or get anything wrong?


    MG





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  2. #2
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    Re: International Calling Redux

    I'll add a little.. Based on what I know about the UK and Virgin.. I plan a short vacation
    to Scotland.. and will use the phone locally daily to friends in the UK,, maybe a couple
    times a week to call the USA. The USA inbound calls will be limited to close
    friends/relatives for emergencies..

    If you are a frequent EU visitor and/or a heavy business phone user,, your requirements
    may be different.

    The Virgin 'top-up' plan has:
    1)all incoming calls are free to you,, including out of country..
    2)the caller uses what ever rate they have on their phones... I have a plan with
    BellSouth(wire) to call my daughter in Australia at .12$US,,
    3)your US SIM maybe more expensive that the EU SIM for long distance.. The Virgin plan is
    20p or about .30$US a minute to the USA, Canada, Australia & New Zealand ,, not bad??
    4)unless you are bound to something?? the games with call forwarding are expensive, and I
    think they aren't warranted... If your friends need to talk to you 10-15 times a day,, let
    them eat the costs,, not your job... If it's business,, let your boss eat the costs...
    5)my understanding of roaming is,, if you have a UK SIM,, England, Scotland, Ireland are
    all local,, with a EU SIM just about all of the EU is local...
    6)My kids have friends that travel to Eastern EU a couple times a year,, they just keep
    toping of their card when they land, been using the same card for years..
    7)Phones,, Cingular has only one phone, V551 that is truly a Quad ban world phone,, I
    didn't want Blue anything, a camera, games, email, slice, post-it messages, IM or .....
    JUST A PHONE,, so I purchased a used T68i on ebay. I will leave my Cingular phone at
    home..
    8)I also purchased a Virgin SIM on ebay,, plugged it in and it linked to T-mobile(the
    virgin us), called Virgin support(789) and talked for 30 minutes,, c-following,, all is
    fine..
    9)EU cellphone to cellphone cross network calls are not cheep,, Virgin is 35P or about
    ..70$US a minute,, about the cheapest.. Within Virgin and to land lines, .10$US a minute..

    NOW there are some issue(s) with Virgin,,, They require a UK address, wire phone #, and a
    UK credit card for registration.. Not very worldly,, I used a friends home data to get
    by.. AND I chewed their butts for 30 minutes.. Net Net,, I can't 'top-up' until I arrive
    in the UK,,, I'll do it at Heathrow in one of the kiosk on the concourse..

    Bout' covers it...
    Jim
    An Old Parrot Head
    In The Conch Republic
    Just South of Reality







  3. #3
    RICHARD GORDON
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    Re: International Calling Redux


    <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    I have a plan with
    > BellSouth(wire) to call my daughter in Australia at .12$US,,

    distance>

    Hi Jim,

    If you're calling ANYWHERE overseas from a US land line phone you
    should be using Nobelcom or something similar .

    Richard





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