Suddenly "No Service" on a Motorola V60i

Overnight (last Wednesday) I have "no service"
in Massachusetts while the phone works just fine in NH.
(I drove 30 miles each direction)

Calling Cingular customer service in vain.
"The phone is broken"
"It is an old (TDMA) phone - get a new one."

Never the less they insist that nothing change
except "integrating AT&T with Cingular.

Any ideas?

Tx,
Uzi

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In <[email protected]> on Mon, 1 Aug 2005 21:35:24 -0400,
"Uzi Barzilai" <[email protected]> wrote:

>Overnight (last Wednesday) I have "no service"
>in Massachusetts while the phone works just fine in NH.
>(I drove 30 miles each direction)
>
>Calling Cingular customer service in vain.
>"The phone is broken"
>"It is an old (TDMA) phone - get a new one."
>
>Never the less they insist that nothing change
>except "integrating AT&T with Cingular.
>
>Any ideas?

Could be a tower failure, or conversion of the tower from TDMA to GSM.

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Thanks, John,

It can't be a tower as I drove south (int Massachusetts)
over 30 miles and I had "no service" all the way.

North, though (Many communities) - reception is fine.

So, the "conversion", then.

Can something be done?
Thanks,
Uzi,
8-2-05
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"John Navas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> In <[email protected]> on Mon, 1 Aug 2005 21:35:24 -0400,
> "Uzi Barzilai" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Overnight (last Wednesday) I have "no service"
>>in Massachusetts while the phone works just fine in NH.
>>(I drove 30 miles each direction)
>>
>>Calling Cingular customer service in vain.
>>"The phone is broken"
>>"It is an old (TDMA) phone - get a new one."
>>
>>Never the less they insist that nothing change
>>except "integrating AT&T with Cingular.
>>
>>Any ideas?
>
> Could be a tower failure, or conversion of the tower from TDMA to GSM.
>
> --
> Best regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES:
> John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular>

Do you know anybody with simular cingular service? See if other people have
coverage.

"Uzi Barzilai" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Thanks, John,
>
> It can't be a tower as I drove south (int Massachusetts)
> over 30 miles and I had "no service" all the way.
>
> North, though (Many communities) - reception is fine.
>
> So, the "conversion", then.
>
> Can something be done?
> Thanks,
> Uzi,
> 8-2-05
> ==============
>
> "John Navas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:ulMHe.6966$p%[email protected]...
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>>
>> In <[email protected]> on Mon, 1 Aug 2005
>> 21:35:24 -0400,
>> "Uzi Barzilai" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>Overnight (last Wednesday) I have "no service"
>>>in Massachusetts while the phone works just fine in NH.
>>>(I drove 30 miles each direction)
>>>
>>>Calling Cingular customer service in vain.
>>>"The phone is broken"
>>>"It is an old (TDMA) phone - get a new one."
>>>
>>>Never the less they insist that nothing change
>>>except "integrating AT&T with Cingular.
>>>
>>>Any ideas?
>>
>> Could be a tower failure, or conversion of the tower from TDMA to GSM.
>>
>> --
>> Best regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES:
>> John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular>
>
>

I can't say anything as to it being broken, but it is an older phone.
Time to get a new one. They are right, nothing has changed. cingular
was gsm before the purchase of att, and it still is. Except, yes, all
the att tdma customers are being "integrated" into the cingular gsm
network.

Uzi Barzilai wrote:
> Thanks, John,
>
> It can't be a tower as I drove south (int Massachusetts)
> over 30 miles and I had "no service" all the way.

It could be that a group or string of towers in your area were converted
to straight GSM then. It could ALSO be that an MTSO has gone out, and
thuse a group of towers went down with it, but that would have much
greater consequences that would affect GSM and TDMA users homed on that
switch. If that switch serves your number, then incoming calls wouldn't
work either, no matter where you went.

> North, though (Many communities) - reception is fine.
> So, the "conversion", then.

Most likely.

> Can something be done?

Short of switching to a GSM phone, probably not.


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In <[email protected]> on Wed, 03 Aug 2005
11:54:53 GMT, Jerome Zelinske <[email protected]> wrote:

> I can't say anything as to it being broken, but it is an older phone.
>Time to get a new one. They are right, nothing has changed. cingular
>was gsm before the purchase of att, and it still is. Except, yes, all
>the att tdma customers are being "integrated" into the cingular gsm
>network.

Cingular was also TDMA in the past.

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"John Navas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> In <[email protected]> on Wed, 03 Aug 2005
> 11:54:53 GMT, Jerome Zelinske <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I can't say anything as to it being broken, but it is an older phone.
>>Time to get a new one. They are right, nothing has changed. cingular
>>was gsm before the purchase of att, and it still is. Except, yes, all
>>the att tdma customers are being "integrated" into the cingular gsm
>>network.
>
> Cingular was also TDMA in the past.
>
> --
> Best regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES:
> John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular>
>

I thought so.

> >> I can't say anything as to it being broken, but it is an older phone.
> >>Time to get a new one. They are right, nothing has changed. cingular
> >>was gsm before the purchase of att, and it still is. Except, yes, all
> >>the att tdma customers are being "integrated" into the cingular gsm
> >>network.
> >
> > Cingular was also TDMA in the past.
> >
> > --
> > Best regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES:
> > John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular>
> >
>
> I thought so.
>
>
>
Guess one of the bands could be bad and he has a single band phone now.
Roaming data base could be bad. Dual band tdma phones are cheap guess you
could buy one on ebay and swap it out. Call customer service and ask for a
over the air update to reload the RDB. If you get a replacement it will need
to be programed and customer service will need to do an esn swap.