signal strength

what phone in people's opinion pulls in the best signal? My wife has a razr
and is not liking it too much, many places she goes into she loses signal or
has very little where as before we always had signal there with our other
carrier. Any suggestions?

Capt.

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In <[email protected]> on Thu, 1 Sep 2005 00:05:28 -0500, "Capn"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>what phone in people's opinion pulls in the best signal? My wife has a razr
>and is not liking it too much, many places she goes into she loses signal or
>has very little where as before we always had signal there with our other
>carrier. Any suggestions?

The RAZR is a very good phone -- a different phone won't help.

Call Cingular Tech Support (not just Customer Care); find out which network
the phone is "homed" on (blue or orange); and ask to be "homed" on the other
network.

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In this case it is the carrier and not the phone. Changing phones will not
do any good. Change back to the carrier that worked well for you.

"Capn" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> what phone in people's opinion pulls in the best signal? My wife has a
> razr and is not liking it too much, many places she goes into she loses
> signal or has very little where as before we always had signal there with
> our other carrier. Any suggestions?
>
> Capt.
>

It could be the phone if it's Homed on the wrong network.

In <nvwRe.61807$Ji4.32037@fed1read03> on Wed, 31 Aug 2005 22:40:31 -0700, "Mij
Adyaw" <[email protected]> wrote:

>In this case it is the carrier and not the phone. Changing phones will not
>do any good. Change back to the carrier that worked well for you.
>
>"Capn" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> what phone in people's opinion pulls in the best signal? My wife has a
>> razr and is not liking it too much, many places she goes into she loses
>> signal or has very little where as before we always had signal there with
>> our other carrier. Any suggestions?
>>
>> Capt.
>>
>

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Mij Adyaw wrote:
> In this case it is the carrier and not the phone. Changing phones will not
> do any good.


I disagree.

It's always worth a try to use a different phone, preferably a newer
one. This is easy to do on Cingular considering that all one needs to
do is swap SIMs. As cell phone designs evolve, so do the efficiencies
seen in the RF section. As a result, an older phone will often perform
less effificently than a newer model.

Alternately, if the person doesn't have a 64k SIM, they might see a
benefit if they switch to one.


Change back to the carrier that worked well for you.
>
> "Capn" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
>>what phone in people's opinion pulls in the best signal? My wife has a
>>razr and is not liking it too much, many places she goes into she loses
>>signal or has very little where as before we always had signal there with
>>our other carrier. Any suggestions?
>>
>>Capt.
>>
>
>
>


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Hi Isiah,

Technically you response if correct, however I have a little different take
on this situation. Last January, I experienced a problem when I upgraded
from a Motorola to an LG phone on Verizon. The Motorola worked great at my
home because of its superior RF performance. With the LG phone I experienced
dropped calls and the phone would flop back and forth on pn offsets. It was
really bad news! Three of my friends have Verizon phones and they
experienced the same problems at my home with different brands of phones.
The only phone that worked well at my home is Motorola. I wanted to be able
to use any phone and not have to worry about finding a phone with superior
RF performance or being locked into Motorola phones forever. The problem was
basically that the Verizon signal was inadequate so I decided to explore
other services and found that Sprint had a cell site not to far from my
home. I switched to Sprint and now I have good signal and can use any phone
that Sprint sells. Therefore, my advice is to improve the quality of the
signal so that you are not forever locked into purchasing phones that have
superior RF performance. It can be a real pain in the ***! If the original
poster is within a two week contract, he/she should return the phone and go
back to the previous cell phone carrier that provided adequate signal.

Regards,

-mij



"Isaiah Beard" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Mij Adyaw wrote:
>> In this case it is the carrier and not the phone. Changing phones will
>> not do any good.
>
>
> I disagree.
>
> It's always worth a try to use a different phone, preferably a newer one.
> This is easy to do on Cingular considering that all one needs to do is
> swap SIMs. As cell phone designs evolve, so do the efficiencies seen in
> the RF section. As a result, an older phone will often perform less
> effificently than a newer model.
>
> Alternately, if the person doesn't have a 64k SIM, they might see a
> benefit if they switch to one.
>
>
> Change back to the carrier that worked well for you.
>>
>> "Capn" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>
>>>what phone in people's opinion pulls in the best signal? My wife has a
>>>razr and is not liking it too much, many places she goes into she loses
>>>signal or has very little where as before we always had signal there with
>>>our other carrier. Any suggestions?
>>>
>>>Capt.
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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Mij Adyaw wrote:
> Hi Isiah,
>
> Technically you response if correct, however I have a little different take
> on this situation. Last January, I experienced a problem when I upgraded
> from a Motorola to an LG phone on Verizon.

First off, you're comparing Verizon, a CDMA network, to Cingular, a GSM
network. While they share some things in common, the two signalling
formats operate differently enough that they have significant
differences in how they behave, INCLUDING how they behave in fringe areas.


> The Motorola worked great at my
> home because of its superior RF performance. With the LG phone I experienced
> dropped calls and the phone would flop back and forth on pn offsets. It was
> really bad news!


The other problem is that you're comparing Motorola to LG. While
Motorola has had its share of duds, most of its handsets perform
excellently at best, and decently at worst. LG phones however, always
seem to perform poorly, even in excellent signal areas. But there are
always people who want a cheap phone, and so as long as there is a
demand for poorly built cheap phones, LG will stay in the handset business.


> Therefore, my advice is to improve the quality of the
> signal so that you are not forever locked into purchasing phones that have
> superior RF performance.

Once again Mij, you are taking your situation and applying it to
everyone else. Not everyone lives where you do, and not everyone is
under the same network coverage and conditions.

And you're oversimplifying the matter. Have you ever tried to get a
zoning variance for a cell site in a residential neighborhood? It's not
like you can just stick these things wherever you'd like them.


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In <[email protected]> on Fri, 02 Sep 2005 02:08:18 -0400,
Isaiah Beard <[email protected]> wrote:

>... Have you ever tried to get a
>zoning variance for a cell site in a residential neighborhood? It's not
>like you can just stick these things wherever you'd like them.

One side effect of this, according to what I've heard, is a source of revenue
for churches, from leasing space in their steeples for cellular antennas.

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John Navas wrote:
> [POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]
>
> In <[email protected]> on Fri, 02 Sep 2005 02:08:18 -0400,
> Isaiah Beard <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>>... Have you ever tried to get a
>>zoning variance for a cell site in a residential neighborhood? It's not
>>like you can just stick these things wherever you'd like them.
>
>
> One side effect of this, according to what I've heard, is a source of revenue
> for churches, from leasing space in their steeples for cellular antennas.

Yes, and then people start to litigate against the church:

http://www.wired.com/news/wireless/0...w=wn_tophead_5

Honestly, I think the moment anyone starts to holler against a cell
phone tower being built near their area should be denied cell phone
service. If you feel it's that much of a health hazard, then you
shouldn't be allowed to use one.


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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Isaiah Beard <[email protected]>
> Sent: 09/03/2005 4:21 PM -0400
> Subject: signal strength
>

> John Navas wrote:
>
>> [POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]
>>
>> In <[email protected]> on Fri, 02 Sep 2005 02:08:18
>> -0400,
>> Isaiah Beard <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> ... Have you ever tried to get a zoning variance for a cell site in
>>> a residential neighborhood? It's not like you can just stick these
>>> things wherever you'd like them.
>>
>>
>>
>> One side effect of this, according to what I've heard, is a source of
>> revenue
>> for churches, from leasing space in their steeples for cellular antennas.


I personally know of a church in Worcester, MA, with a
cellular installation inside the high, prominently located
steeple. It's completely invisible from the outside and
nearly so from the inside (equipment installed at great
expense and engineering effort to make it so). Copper
louvered openings high in the tower were replaced by
fiberglass look-alike replacements (originals in safekeeping
for the future, thank you very much) behind which the
antenna panels are mounted. Everything is internal to the
tower structure, physically and visually.

It was originally Omnipoint, T-Mobile now, I think, who are
paying the church right at $30k per year.

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>
> In <[email protected]> on Thu, 1 Sep 2005 00:05:28 -0500,
> "Capn"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>what phone in people's opinion pulls in the best signal? My wife has a
>>razr
>>and is not liking it too much, many places she goes into she loses signal
>>or
>>has very little where as before we always had signal there with our other
>>carrier. Any suggestions?
>
> The RAZR is a very good phone -- a different phone won't help.
>
> Call Cingular Tech Support (not just Customer Care); find out which
> network
> the phone is "homed" on (blue or orange); and ask to be "homed" on the
> other
> network.

I agree with this guy. It's probably not the phone. The RAZR is probably
one of the best reception phones around. Also, where are you located? That
could make a difference.


>
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