Cingular EGPRS(EDGE) speed in SF Bay Area

Cingular EGPRS(EDGE) performance continues to be good here in the San
Francisco Bay Area. See screen captures of network throughput for FTP at
<http://j.navas.home.att.net/cingular_media_net/speed_9-1-2005.htm>
Note that speeds are relatively steady at near full speed for the two
different devices I tested (Motorola V551 and Sony Ericsson GC82),
97 Kbps (EGPRS Class 4) and 133 Kbps (EGPRS Class 10) respectively.
While I have seen some data network problems from time to time, this is
typical of my experiences with Cingular since EGPRS was rolled out here.

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It works a lot better over there in SF a lot better than here in Atlanta. I
get about 67k down, and 75k up.

That's with an unlocked Nokia 3220 (originally T-mobile). Is there anything
I can do to tweak some more kb out of this sonuva*****?

Thanks



"John Navas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Cingular EGPRS(EDGE) performance continues to be good here in the San
> Francisco Bay Area. See screen captures of network throughput for FTP at
> <http://j.navas.home.att.net/cingular_media_net/speed_9-1-2005.htm>
> Note that speeds are relatively steady at near full speed for the two
> different devices I tested (Motorola V551 and Sony Ericsson GC82),
> 97 Kbps (EGPRS Class 4) and 133 Kbps (EGPRS Class 10) respectively.
> While I have seen some data network problems from time to time, this is
> typical of my experiences with Cingular since EGPRS was rolled out here.
>
> --
> Best regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES:
> John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular>

If I get a phone that supports EDGE (i.e. the 850/1800/1900 Nokia 9300 I
have been waiting for), can I then use it with just the Media plan, or
do I need something more?

In article <[email protected]>,
"ja" <[email protected]> wrote:

> It works a lot better over there in SF a lot better than here in Atlanta. I
> get about 67k down, and 75k up.
>
> That's with an unlocked Nokia 3220 (originally T-mobile). Is there anything
> I can do to tweak some more kb out of this sonuva*****?
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
> "John Navas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:T4%Re.11681$p%[email protected]...
> > Cingular EGPRS(EDGE) performance continues to be good here in the San
> > Francisco Bay Area. See screen captures of network throughput for FTP at
> > <http://j.navas.home.att.net/cingular_media_net/speed_9-1-2005.htm>
> > Note that speeds are relatively steady at near full speed for the two
> > different devices I tested (Motorola V551 and Sony Ericsson GC82),
> > 97 Kbps (EGPRS Class 4) and 133 Kbps (EGPRS Class 10) respectively.
> > While I have seen some data network problems from time to time, this is
> > typical of my experiences with Cingular since EGPRS was rolled out here.
> >
> > --
> > Best regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES:
> > John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular>
>
>

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John Navas wrote:
> Cingular EGPRS(EDGE) performance continues to be good here in the San
> Francisco Bay Area. See screen captures of network throughput for FTP at
> <http://j.navas.home.att.net/cingular_media_net/speed_9-1-2005.htm>
> Note that speeds are relatively steady at near full speed for the two
> different devices I tested (Motorola V551 and Sony Ericsson GC82),
> 97 Kbps (EGPRS Class 4) and 133 Kbps (EGPRS Class 10) respectively.
> While I have seen some data network problems from time to time, this is
> typical of my experiences with Cingular since EGPRS was rolled out here.
>
I use a little product that display real time performance both average
and peak. The peak hits 130 kbits for a few milliseconds but the average
is much lower. That product is DU Meter by Hogel Technologies. It is
performance from this product that I quote.

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In <[email protected]> on Fri, 02 Sep 2005
14:09:04 -0700, David Friedman <[email protected]> wrote:

>If I get a phone that supports EDGE (i.e. the 850/1800/1900 Nokia 9300 I
>have been waiting for), can I then use it with just the Media plan, ...

Yes.

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The Nokia 3220 is EGPRS(EDGE) Class 6, which limits it to no more than about
100 Kbps down.

For best results, make sure the link speed to/from your computer is as high as
possible. I use 230 Kbps. Also make sure that you increase the TCP Window
Size, especially if you are running an older version of Windows -- see
<http://cable-dsl.home.att.net/#WhyItMatters>.


In <[email protected]> on Fri, 2 Sep 2005 16:59:16 -0400,
"ja" <[email protected]> wrote:

>It works a lot better over there in SF a lot better than here in Atlanta. I
>get about 67k down, and 75k up.
>
>That's with an unlocked Nokia 3220 (originally T-mobile). Is there anything
>I can do to tweak some more kb out of this sonuva*****?

>"John Navas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:T4%Re.11681$p%[email protected]...
>> Cingular EGPRS(EDGE) performance continues to be good here in the San
>> Francisco Bay Area. See screen captures of network throughput for FTP at
>> <http://j.navas.home.att.net/cingular_media_net/speed_9-1-2005.htm>
>> Note that speeds are relatively steady at near full speed for the two
>> different devices I tested (Motorola V551 and Sony Ericsson GC82),
>> 97 Kbps (EGPRS Class 4) and 133 Kbps (EGPRS Class 10) respectively.
>> While I have seen some data network problems from time to time, this is
>> typical of my experiences with Cingular since EGPRS was rolled out here.

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In <_27Se.1002$AB4.834@trnddc03> on Sat, 03 Sep 2005 01:32:42 GMT, J Robertson
<[email protected]> wrote:

>John Navas wrote:
>> Cingular EGPRS(EDGE) performance continues to be good here in the San
>> Francisco Bay Area. See screen captures of network throughput for FTP at
>> <http://j.navas.home.att.net/cingular_media_net/speed_9-1-2005.htm>
>> Note that speeds are relatively steady at near full speed for the two
>> different devices I tested (Motorola V551 and Sony Ericsson GC82),
>> 97 Kbps (EGPRS Class 4) and 133 Kbps (EGPRS Class 10) respectively.
>> While I have seen some data network problems from time to time, this is
>> typical of my experiences with Cingular since EGPRS was rolled out here.
>>
>I use a little product that display real time performance both average
>and peak. The peak hits 130 kbits for a few milliseconds but the average
>is much lower. That product is DU Meter by Hogel Technologies. It is
>performance from this product that I quote.

I haven't found it to be accurate.

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I'm using a Nokia 6230 but, so far as I can tell, at GPRS not EDGE
speeds. What do I have to change in my settings to make it EDGE?

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It is supposed to be automatic. What kind of speeds are you getting?


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> I'm using a Nokia 6230 but, so far as I can tell, at GPRS not EDGE
> speeds. What do I have to change in my settings to make it EDGE?
>
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I don't have a numerical measure, but at the best it feels like landline
modem speed, and usually slower than that.

My phone says it is connecting to GPRS--would it still say that if it
were connecting via EDGE?

Also, the connection generally drops within five minutes or so, although
I have occasionally kept if for as long as half an hour.

In article <[email protected]>,
"ja" <[email protected]> wrote:

> It is supposed to be automatic. What kind of speeds are you getting?
>
>
> "David Friedman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > I'm using a Nokia 6230 but, so far as I can tell, at GPRS not EDGE
> > speeds. What do I have to change in my settings to make it EDGE?
> >
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David Friedman <[email protected]> wrote:
> I don't have a numerical measure, but at the best it feels like landline
> modem speed, and usually slower than that.

You could time a known download, or watch IE, or WinXP ctrl-alt-del
task manager, like John did, or www.dslreports.com/mspeed, or
start-run-perfmon.msc + Performance Object = Network

> My phone says it is connecting to GPRS--would it still say that if it
> were connecting via EDGE?

The Motorola V551 displays a different symbol on the phone screen when GPRS
verses EGPRS is available, but that was in a firmware update that some
people don't have. Where are you seeing "GPRS"? I suspect it is just the
name of your dialup connection, and could be any name you'd like.

> Also, the connection generally drops within five minutes or so, although
> I have occasionally kept if for as long as half an hour.

At home, my connection is weak, and does drop, depending on where I am in
the house. Out at the barn, it is stable, and I ran VPN across GPRS for a
couple of hours when we had a power outage.

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In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
wrote:

> David Friedman <[email protected]> wrote:
> > I don't have a numerical measure, but at the best it feels like landline
> > modem speed, and usually slower than that.
>
> You could time a known download, or watch IE, or WinXP ctrl-alt-del
> task manager, like John did, or www.dslreports.com/mspeed, or
> start-run-perfmon.msc + Performance Object = Network

I'm using a Mac.

> > My phone says it is connecting to GPRS--would it still say that if it
> > were connecting via EDGE?
>
> The Motorola V551 displays a different symbol on the phone screen when GPRS
> verses EGPRS is available, but that was in a firmware update that some
> people don't have. Where are you seeing "GPRS"?

There is a small G at the upper left hand corner of the screen, and a
connecting to GPRS network message on the screen as it is connecting.

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Where or how can I download new firmware for my RAZR v3? Do I have to
go to the store or can I do it my self??

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>David Friedman <[email protected]> wrote:
>> I don't have a numerical measure, but at the best it feels like landline
>> modem speed, and usually slower than that.
>
>You could time a known download, or watch IE, or WinXP ctrl-alt-del
>task manager, like John did, or www.dslreports.com/mspeed, or
>start-run-perfmon.msc + Performance Object = Network
>
>> My phone says it is connecting to GPRS--would it still say that if it
>> were connecting via EDGE?
>
>The Motorola V551 displays a different symbol on the phone screen when GPRS
>verses EGPRS is available, but that was in a firmware update that some
>people don't have. Where are you seeing "GPRS"? I suspect it is just the
>name of your dialup connection, and could be any name you'd like.
>
>> Also, the connection generally drops within five minutes or so, although
>> I have occasionally kept if for as long as half an hour.
>
>At home, my connection is weak, and does drop, depending on where I am in
>the house. Out at the barn, it is stable, and I ran VPN across GPRS for a
>couple of hours when we had a power outage.

David Friedman <[email protected]> wrote:
> I'm using a Mac.

There are no network performance tools? If it is OS/X, you should have sar
available.

www.dslreports.com/stest and /mspeed are both java tools.

http://dast.nlanr.net/Projects/Iperf/ is available as a binary download for
Mac, among others. You need access to some other machine to run iperf as a
pair. If you have a login at some unix shell ISP, you could run a copy
there, and on your GPRS-connected Mac.

> There is a small G at the upper left hand corner of the screen, and a
> connecting to GPRS network message on the screen as it is connecting.

At that level, I might not expect it to display a difference.

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