Need high-speed Internet via cellphone

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In <[email protected]> on Mon, 19 Sep 2005 23:09:31 +0000 (UTC),
[email protected] wrote:

>John Navas <[email protected]> wrote:

>> Why use Cingular Connection Manager or Mobile Phone Tools when all you
>> need is Windows Dial-Up Networking?
>
>WindowsXP-SP2 did install a modem driver for my v551 Bluetooth.
>WindowsXP-SP2 did not install a modem driver for my v220 USB.

If the phone supports the Dial-Up Networking Profile, that should appear in
Control Panel -> Bluetooth Devices -> [select device] -> Properties ->
Services. Make sure the option is checked, which should create a Standard
Bluetooth Modem on the indicated COM port. Alternatively, the phone may
support COM ports, as configured in the COM Ports tab of Bluetooth Devices.
I've also heard that installing Cingular's Connection Manager
<http://www.cingular.com/midtolarge/communicationmgr> will install drivers for
supported phones.

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John Navas <[email protected]> wrote:
> If the phone supports the Dial-Up Networking Profile, that should appear in
> Control Panel -> Bluetooth Devices -> [select device] -> Properties ->

The question was about USB. Bluetooth does work with WinXP.

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In <[email protected]> on Tue, 20 Sep 2005 00:55:47 +0000 (UTC),
[email protected] wrote:

>John Navas <[email protected]> wrote:

>> If the phone supports the Dial-Up Networking Profile, that should appear in
>> Control Panel -> Bluetooth Devices -> [select device] -> Properties ->
>
>The question was about USB. Bluetooth does work with WinXP.

USB drivers should be included in USB software.

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> > Interesting. I've tried all the suggestions here and on the web
> >and my phone will not do GPRS on MediaNet. Now I note that Cingular
> >tutorial does not list the Nokia 6200. It did work when I bought it.
>
> The first step in troubleshooting is getting the WAP browser (and/or email
> client) to work over GPRS. If that's not working, contact Customer Care
> and/or take the handset in to a Cingular store. Once that's working, all
> that's needed in Windows Dial-Up Networking is a modem entry for the handset
> and the correct settings from my
> <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/tech/cingular/media.htm>.
I just went and checked again (Northern California). The WAP browser
works - I navigated to the point it wanted $2.99 for a traffic report,
then quit. The settings in the Windows XP "modem over IR" are as per your
web site except that the highest baud rate selection was 115 K (and
of course this is a Nokia 6200, not Sony Ericsson).
Attempting to log in, the phone showed activity, then said I needed to
subscribe to GPRS first. The laptop said Error 743 [IIRC] PPP link
terminated.
A couple of months ago when I tried this (in Southern California) I
wound up with a second level tech rep who led me through checking all the
settings on the phone and laptop, then said "oops, our network is down,
but it should work, try again later." It didn't. Again a couple of weeks
ago I tried (Michigan), but this time the rep said "you can't do that with
your "MediaNet Pay per Use, includes Data Detailed Billing and Internet
Express", you have to sign up for DataConnect". So I did, and it worked -
slowly and expensively. So here is at least one case where MediaNet Does
Not Work.

> >So on a recent trip I had to sign up for DataConnect.
> >Foolishly thinking I didn't need much I signed up for 5MB. Performance
> >was awful - about 19200 baud -
>
> Sounds like you were using CSD (9600 bps) rather than GPRS (up to about 50
> Kbps).
The bill has, for instance, an entry at 10:55 am during which 1,511 KB
were transmitted. The next entry is at 11:09am, same day. So it must
have transmitted 1,511 KB in the intervening 840 seconds, which is about
18 Kbaud, not 9.6 Kbaud and not 50 Kbaud. Since that was checking webmail
I doubt it was using 9.6 Kbaud simultaneously up and down.

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In <[email protected]> on Mon, 19 Sep 2005 21:41:32 -0500,
[email protected] wrote:

>> >So on a recent trip I had to sign up for DataConnect.
>> >Foolishly thinking I didn't need much I signed up for 5MB. Performance
>> >was awful - about 19200 baud -
>>
>> Sounds like you were using CSD (9600 bps) rather than GPRS (up to about 50
>> Kbps).
> The bill has, for instance, an entry at 10:55 am during which 1,511 KB
>were transmitted. The next entry is at 11:09am, same day. So it must
>have transmitted 1,511 KB in the intervening 840 seconds, which is about
>18 Kbaud, not 9.6 Kbaud and not 50 Kbaud. Since that was checking webmail
>I doubt it was using 9.6 Kbaud simultaneously up and down.

I think you're reading too much into those entries. Measure the actual speed.

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In <[email protected]> on Mon, 19 Sep 2005 21:41:32 -0500,
[email protected] wrote:

>> > Interesting. I've tried all the suggestions here and on the web
>> >and my phone will not do GPRS on MediaNet. Now I note that Cingular
>> >tutorial does not list the Nokia 6200. It did work when I bought it.
>>
>> The first step in troubleshooting is getting the WAP browser (and/or email
>> client) to work over GPRS. If that's not working, contact Customer Care
>> and/or take the handset in to a Cingular store. Once that's working, all
>> that's needed in Windows Dial-Up Networking is a modem entry for the handset
>> and the correct settings from my
>> <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/tech/cingular/media.htm>.
> I just went and checked again (Northern California). The WAP browser
>works - I navigated to the point it wanted $2.99 for a traffic report,
>then quit. The settings in the Windows XP "modem over IR" are as per your
>web site except that the highest baud rate selection was 115 K (and
>of course this is a Nokia 6200, not Sony Ericsson).
>Attempting to log in, the phone showed activity, then said I needed to
>subscribe to GPRS first. The laptop said Error 743 [IIRC] PPP link
>terminated.
> A couple of months ago when I tried this (in Southern California) I
>wound up with a second level tech rep who led me through checking all the
>settings on the phone and laptop, then said "oops, our network is down,
>but it should work, try again later." It didn't. Again a couple of weeks
>ago I tried (Michigan), but this time the rep said "you can't do that with
>your "MediaNet Pay per Use, includes Data Detailed Billing and Internet
>Express", you have to sign up for DataConnect". So I did, and it worked -
>slowly and expensively. So here is at least one case where MediaNet Does
>Not Work.

Correction: Did not work. I'm pretty sure that it could have been made to
work with the right settings. The problem with MEdia Net is that you're on
you're own, since tethered use isn't supported. Regardless, Data Connect GPRS
should be much faster than CSD. If not, lean on Cingular.

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>>Attempting to log in, the phone showed activity, then said I needed to
>>subscribe to GPRS first. The laptop said Error 743 [IIRC] PPP link
>>terminated.
>> A couple of months ago when I tried this (in Southern California) I
>>wound up with a second level tech rep who led me through checking all the
>>settings on the phone and laptop, then said "oops, our network is down,
>>but it should work, try again later." It didn't. Again a couple of weeks
>>ago I tried (Michigan), but this time the rep said "you can't do that with
>>your "MediaNet Pay per Use, includes Data Detailed Billing and Internet
>>Express", you have to sign up for DataConnect". So I did, and it worked -
>>slowly and expensively. So here is at least one case where MediaNet Does
>>Not Work.
>
> Correction: Did not work. I'm pretty sure that it could have been made to
> work with the right settings. The problem with MEdia Net is that you're
> on
> you're own, since tethered use isn't supported. Regardless, Data Connect
> GPRS
> should be much faster than CSD. If not, lean on Cingular.
>
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> Best regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES:
> John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular>

Very odd. Yesterday I was as happy as could be, because my phone connected
to the internet as a tethered modem via Cingular. I have just connected my
phone to the PC via the USB cable and low and behold I get 'Error 734 The
PPP link control protocol was terminated'. If I was being a little paranoid
I would suspect that someone is monitoring this group and disabling user
accounts for tethered data access.

If anyone has an explanation as to why I might get a 734 error I would be
interested to hear it. Signal strength seems to be good.

Maybe so. See following copied from the Sony Ericsson GC8x User Guide
regarding Error 734:

"The APN entry is incorrect, the signal is weak or the
connection is lost while dialing.
If you are experiencing problems contact your network
operator and check the APN."

"GomJabbar" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Maybe so. See following copied from the Sony Ericsson GC8x User Guide
> regarding Error 734:
>
> "The APN entry is incorrect, the signal is weak or the
> connection is lost while dialing.
> If you are experiencing problems contact your network
> operator and check the APN."
>

Thanks for the suggestion. It made me plug the phone in again. The good news
is the phone started working again :-) Maybe the network was down. I
installed the Cingular Communications Manager on another PC, to see what it
is like and the signal meter on it's display gives a reading of -59dBm. Not
sure how accurate the measurement is, but I don't think signal strength was
the issue. Well fingers crossed and lets hope everything keeps working.

"John Navas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> In <[email protected]> on Mon, 19 Sep 2005
> 13:00:46
> -0500, M.L. <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 19 Sep 2005 01:44:52 -0400, Dmitry Gromov <[email protected]>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>Howard Huntley wrote:
>>>> I don't think media net will allow laptop tethering. This is awful
>>>> with Cingular. Using Verizon I could connect direct to the internet
>>>> for free. It was a life saver when my Cable modem would go out.
>>>
>>>Hm... Really? I have MediaNet unlimited an have no issues using it with
>>>my laptop via SE S710a... Web and IMAP/SMTP work fine.
>>>I thought, there are some other restrictions, like they monitor
>>>excessive use and close many ports...
>>
>>I just checked the Cingular website. It appears that MediaNet is no
>>longer offered with the unlimited option, but by the kilobyte.
>
> Here in Northern California at least,
> <https://www.cingular.com/media/media_net_purchase> still shows "MEdia Net
> Unlimited" at "$19.99 per month".
>
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I just upgraded from a 1MB plan to unlimited.

"John Navas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> In <[email protected]> on Tue, 20 Sep 2005 00:55:47 +0000 (UTC),
> [email protected] wrote:
>
>>John Navas <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>> If the phone supports the Dial-Up Networking Profile, that should appear
>>> in
>>> Control Panel -> Bluetooth Devices -> [select device] -> Properties ->
>>
>>The question was about USB. Bluetooth does work with WinXP.
>
> USB drivers should be included in USB software.
>
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> Best regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES:
> John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular>

If you don't have USB drivers for your phone, download and install the
Cingular connection manager. I did and it had the frivers for my V400. Worth
a try, as it is free.

David <[email protected]> wrote:

> If you don't have USB drivers for your phone, download and install the
> Cingular connection manager. I did and it had the frivers for my V400.
> Worth a try, as it is free.

I said that earlier, but John says the native WinXP drivers work.
They didn't for me.

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In <[email protected]> on Wed, 21 Sep 2005 00:58:37 +0000 (UTC),
[email protected] wrote:

>David <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> If you don't have USB drivers for your phone, download and install the
>> Cingular connection manager. I did and it had the frivers for my V400.
>> Worth a try, as it is free.
>
>I said that earlier, but John says the native WinXP drivers work.
>They didn't for me.

My comment was about Bluetooth, not USB.

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Same here, when I was being charged per kb. it worked, signed up for
unlimited media net, error 734.
Guess no cheap internet!