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  1. #1
    Tech
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    Signed up with Cingular on a family talk plan with 3 Razrs in New Jersey. I
    see nothing in the customer agreement that addresses equipment defects or
    malfunctions after the initial 30 day grace period. If I choose not to buy
    the equipment coverage plan ($4.99/$3.99 per phone; $1.99 enhanced warranty
    supposedly not available in N.J.) and the Razr somehow malfunctions after I
    have had it over 30 days what happens? I know Verizon will replace their
    phone (within the first 12 months) with a "refurbished" one at no extra
    charge provided it is an equipment malfunction not caused by the user. Does
    Cingular do this also or would I have to go out and buy another phone at
    full retail?
    Thanks.





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  2. #2
    Jeffrey Kaplan
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    Re: New customer...should I get equipment insurance?

    It is alleged that Tech claimed:

    > Signed up with Cingular on a family talk plan with 3 Razrs in New Jersey. I
    > see nothing in the customer agreement that addresses equipment defects or
    > malfunctions after the initial 30 day grace period. If I choose not to buy
    > the equipment coverage plan ($4.99/$3.99 per phone; $1.99 enhanced warranty
    > supposedly not available in N.J.) and the Razr somehow malfunctions after I
    > have had it over 30 days what happens? I know Verizon will replace their
    > phone (within the first 12 months) with a "refurbished" one at no extra
    > charge provided it is an equipment malfunction not caused by the user. Does
    > Cingular do this also or would I have to go out and buy another phone at
    > full retail?


    I asked a Cingular-owned store rep about insurance for my Treo. I was
    told that their insurance carrier specifically does not insure any
    handheld with an unsubsidized retail price over $300. This price range
    includes the Razr. Or at least it did last June.

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  3. #3
    RobR
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    Re: New customer...should I get equipment insurance?

    Does Motorola warranty the phones? You'd probably have to get
    it covered under warranty and send them back to Motorola. I'm
    sitting here on hold right now with Nokia trying to find out what's
    up with the 6620 they received from me on the 8th for repair.
    Sigh........

    "Tech" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:k3WYe.52$L15.15@trndny01...
    > Signed up with Cingular on a family talk plan with 3 Razrs in New Jersey.
    > I
    > see nothing in the customer agreement that addresses equipment defects or
    > malfunctions after the initial 30 day grace period. If I choose not to buy
    > the equipment coverage plan ($4.99/$3.99 per phone; $1.99 enhanced
    > warranty
    > supposedly not available in N.J.) and the Razr somehow malfunctions after
    > I
    > have had it over 30 days what happens? I know Verizon will replace their
    > phone (within the first 12 months) with a "refurbished" one at no extra
    > charge provided it is an equipment malfunction not caused by the user.
    > Does
    > Cingular do this also or would I have to go out and buy another phone at
    > full retail?
    > Thanks.
    >
    >






  4. #4
    exposejoh
    Guest

    Re: New customer...should I get equipment insurance?

    I imagine within the first 30 days Cingular, or whatever reseller you went
    with, would replace them on the spot via their stores, but after that up
    through 12 months it's probably Motorola's responsibility. You send the
    phone to them (they may even pay return shipping) and they replace it within
    a few days with a refurb. Not really a big deal since all the shipping is
    either next day or two day and they know the customer is without a phone.
    You can also pay their price for a replacement upfront, they ship the phone,
    and credit your account once your phone is received. I'd only take the
    insurance if there's a good chance the phones might become lost or badly
    treated. I take good care of my phones and keep track of them, so I've never
    considered it. Usually after a year most people want new phones anyway no
    matter how cool or exciting the current models are.

    "Tech" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:k3WYe.52$L15.15@trndny01...

    > Signed up with Cingular on a family talk plan with 3 Razrs in New Jersey.






  5. #5
    RobR
    Guest

    Re: New customer...should I get equipment insurance?

    actually my t616 lost 2 rows of pixels within 2 weeks of buying it at
    an at&t store and signing a new contract. they told me i'd have to
    pay $25 and get a refurb or send it in to SE for repair. i was
    rather stunned. i then told them i wanted to swap it since i was still
    within the 30 days for another T616 (ie, their 30 day return/cancellation
    policy) and was told they could only exchange it for a different model of
    phone.

    "exposejoh" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    >I imagine within the first 30 days Cingular, or whatever reseller you went
    >with, would replace them on the spot via their stores, but after that up
    >through 12 months it's probably Motorola's responsibility. You send the
    >phone to them (they may even pay return shipping) and they replace it
    >within a few days with a refurb. Not really a big deal since all the
    >shipping is either next day or two day and they know the customer is
    >without a phone. You can also pay their price for a replacement upfront,
    >they ship the phone, and credit your account once your phone is received.
    >I'd only take the insurance if there's a good chance the phones might
    >become lost or badly treated. I take good care of my phones and keep track
    >of them, so I've never considered it. Usually after a year most people want
    >new phones anyway no matter how cool or exciting the current models are.
    >
    > "Tech" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:k3WYe.52$L15.15@trndny01...
    >
    >> Signed up with Cingular on a family talk plan with 3 Razrs in New Jersey.

    >
    >






  6. #6

    Re: New customer...should I get equipment insurance?

    RobR <[email protected]> wrote:
    > actually my t616 lost 2 rows of pixels within 2 weeks of buying it at


    I had a V551 replaced at no cost, on the spot, six days after I bought it
    at a Cingular store. The reason for it's failure was not questioned.

    ---
    Clarence A Dold - Hidden Valley (Lake County) CA USA 38.8,-122.5




  7. #7
    Mark W. Oots
    Guest

    Re: New customer...should I get equipment insurance?


    "Tech" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:k3WYe.52$L15.15@trndny01...
    > Signed up with Cingular on a family talk plan with 3 Razrs in New Jersey.
    > I
    > see nothing in the customer agreement that addresses equipment defects or
    > malfunctions after the initial 30 day grace period. If I choose not to buy
    > the equipment coverage plan ($4.99/$3.99 per phone; $1.99 enhanced
    > warranty
    > supposedly not available in N.J.) and the Razr somehow malfunctions after
    > I
    > have had it over 30 days what happens? I know Verizon will replace their
    > phone (within the first 12 months) with a "refurbished" one at no extra
    > charge provided it is an equipment malfunction not caused by the user.
    > Does
    > Cingular do this also or would I have to go out and buy another phone at
    > full retail?
    > Thanks.
    >
    >

    In the first 30 days, take it back to place of purchase for a new
    replacement, After 30 days, call Cingular exchange by mail (XBM)
    1800-801-1101 and they will send you a refurb or new one (depends on what
    they have on hand) till the end of the first year. After one year, it's up
    to you. Standard upgrade can be done after 21 months on a 2 year contract or
    1 year if you pay 75 bucks per month before taxes on that line. Exception
    upgrade (50 bucks extra) can be done anytime after 6 months if; 1) You
    haven't been suspended for non-pay 2)Your last contract was a new line or
    standard upgrade.

    Current cost on the Razr is 260.00 to the dealer through Cingular. From my
    understanding, the insurance will now cover the Razr.

    Mark





  8. #8

    Re: New customer...should I get equipment insurance?

    Insurance as of August 2005 DOES cover the V3 RZR. It still does not
    cover the Treo 650. However, all NEW phones purchased at Cingular are
    covered by a one year manufacturer's warranty. This includes the Treo
    as well as the Blackberry or Audiovox. If your speaker goes out or it
    just stops working without extensive physical damage or any water
    damage then Cingular will replace it with a refurb at no charge.
    They'll even send you a pre-paid packing slip to send the defective
    phone back to them.

    ~Blake
    Cingular Sales Rep.

    Mark W. Oots no spam wrote:
    > "Tech" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:k3WYe.52$L15.15@trndny01...
    > > Signed up with Cingular on a family talk plan with 3 Razrs in New Jersey.
    > > I
    > > see nothing in the customer agreement that addresses equipment defects or
    > > malfunctions after the initial 30 day grace period. If I choose not to buy
    > > the equipment coverage plan ($4.99/$3.99 per phone; $1.99 enhanced
    > > warranty
    > > supposedly not available in N.J.) and the Razr somehow malfunctions after
    > > I
    > > have had it over 30 days what happens? I know Verizon will replace their
    > > phone (within the first 12 months) with a "refurbished" one at no extra
    > > charge provided it is an equipment malfunction not caused by the user.
    > > Does
    > > Cingular do this also or would I have to go out and buy another phone at
    > > full retail?
    > > Thanks.
    > >
    > >

    > In the first 30 days, take it back to place of purchase for a new
    > replacement, After 30 days, call Cingular exchange by mail (XBM)
    > 1800-801-1101 and they will send you a refurb or new one (depends on what
    > they have on hand) till the end of the first year. After one year, it's up
    > to you. Standard upgrade can be done after 21 months on a 2 year contract or
    > 1 year if you pay 75 bucks per month before taxes on that line. Exception
    > upgrade (50 bucks extra) can be done anytime after 6 months if; 1) You
    > haven't been suspended for non-pay 2)Your last contract was a new line or
    > standard upgrade.
    >
    > Current cost on the Razr is 260.00 to the dealer through Cingular. From my
    > understanding, the insurance will now cover the Razr.
    >
    > Mark





  9. #9
    Mike Marquis
    Guest

    Re: New customer...should I get equipment insurance?

    My opinion is that it is worth it for only the more expensive phones. There
    is a $50 deductible that has to be paid. For a Razr I would judge it worth
    it. Be advised that it may not cover water damage.
    Mike


    "Tech" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:k3WYe.52$L15.15@trndny01...
    > Signed up with Cingular on a family talk plan with 3 Razrs in New Jersey.

    I
    > see nothing in the customer agreement that addresses equipment defects or
    > malfunctions after the initial 30 day grace period. If I choose not to buy
    > the equipment coverage plan ($4.99/$3.99 per phone; $1.99 enhanced

    warranty
    > supposedly not available in N.J.) and the Razr somehow malfunctions after

    I
    > have had it over 30 days what happens? I know Verizon will replace their
    > phone (within the first 12 months) with a "refurbished" one at no extra
    > charge provided it is an equipment malfunction not caused by the user.

    Does
    > Cingular do this also or would I have to go out and buy another phone at
    > full retail?
    > Thanks.
    >
    >






  10. #10

    Re: New customer...should I get equipment insurance?

    Insurance DOES cover water damage. I'm looking at the brochure right
    here in front of me and it says water damage IS covered so don't worry
    about that. I would get insurance on any phone that retails over 130
    dollars. 5 bucks a month equals 60 bucks a year plus a 50 dollar
    deductible. And don't do 2 year contracts. Just pay the extra fifty
    bucks for the phone so you can upgrade after a year.




  11. #11

    Re: New customer...should I get equipment insurance?

    Insurance DOES cover water damage. I'm looking at the brochure right
    here in front of me and it says water damage IS covered so don't worry
    about that. I would get insurance on any phone that retails over 130
    dollars. 5 bucks a month equals 60 bucks a year plus a 50 dollar
    deductible. And don't do 2 year contracts. Just pay the extra fifty
    bucks for the phone so you can upgrade after a year.




  12. #12
    Tim
    Guest

    Re: New customer...should I get equipment insurance?

    On Mon, 26 Sep 2005 08:44:45 -0500, "Mike Marquis"
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    >My opinion is that it is worth it for only the more expensive phones. There
    >is a $50 deductible that has to be paid. For a Razr I would judge it worth
    >it. Be advised that it may not cover water damage.


    Same opinion here. Not worth it for the cheapo phones. I think it's
    a great deal for the nicer/high-end phones though.

    My "high-end" (at least it was when I bought it) Nokia 3600 took a
    dump about a year and a half I got it -- the key to hang the phone up
    was not working intermittently. I was out of contract.

    My choices were to either get a new phone, perhaps at a discounted
    rate by extending my contract by 1 or 2 years, or to run it through
    the LockLine insurance and pay a $50 deductible.

    With the much, much nicer 6620 replacing the 3600 at Cingular
    retailing for $299 (at the time) *with a 2 year contact extension*
    (Cingular/LockLine is supposed to replace the phone with the closest
    thing they have equivalent), it was a no-brainer to run it through
    LockLine. Had to pay the $50 deductible and return the old phone, but
    I saved a ton of money versus a new phone of comparable features (I
    use the Bluetooth and the Nokia PC Suite all the time) and I'm still
    out of contract if I ever wanted to get another phone subsidy upgrade.

    And if that brand-spanking new 6620 ever takes a crap anytime soon
    (hopefully not), Cingular would probably send me a 6682 as its
    replacement. What is there not to like?



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