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  1. #16
    CharlesH
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    Re: Service - technology of the future

    Tropical Haven wrote:
    > We reboot our computers on a regular basis, why not our phones?


    Maybe one has to do that with some computers running Microsoft operating
    systems. Most Unix servers I've supported at work run a year or so
    between reboots, and that is only because the company turned off the
    power for maintenance.



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  2. #17
    John Navas
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    Re: Service - technology of the future

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    In <[email protected]> on Sat, 29 Oct 2005 18:24:08
    GMT, "Cliff" <[email protected]> wrote:

    >"John Navas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >news:[email protected]...
    >>
    >> In <U3z8f.26670$OM4.11038@dukeread06> on Fri, 28 Oct 2005 20:08:34 -0400,
    >> Tropical Haven <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>
    >> >... Even my Nokia 6340i worked better with regular
    >> >reboots. We reboot our computers on a regular basis, why not our phones?

    >>
    >> By that logic, why not our cars, microwave ovens, dishwashers, digital
    >> thermostats, TVs, VCRs, DVD players, Walkpersons, iPods, etc. Answer:
    >> Because we shouldn't have to! My V551 has never needed to be rebooted.


    >I think the logic here is that anything with a computer and programmable
    >memory inside of it will be better off with a "fresh start" once in a while.


    Not necessarily. All the devices I cited have a computer and programmable
    memory inside of them, but are designed to operate indefinitely without being
    rebooted. That's done by managing resources in such a way that programming
    errors don't result in resource leaks, and by self-checking that maintains
    data integrity, with transparent recovery. By comparison, rebooting is crude.

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  3. #18
    John Navas
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    Re: Service - technology of the future

    [POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]

    In <[email protected]> on Sat, 29 Oct 2005
    17:26:58 -0400, "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <[email protected]> wrote:

    >In article <[email protected]>,
    > "Cliff" <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >> > By that logic, why not our cars, microwave ovens, dishwashers, digital
    >> > thermostats, TVs, VCRs, DVD players, Walkpersons, iPods, etc. Answer:
    >> > Because we shouldn't have to! My V551 has never needed to be rebooted.


    >> I think the logic here is that anything with a computer and programmable
    >> memory inside of it will be better off with a "fresh start" once in a while.

    >
    >Every call to customer service gets the same first response: "turn your
    >phone off, remove the battery, remove the SIM, reinsert the SIM,
    >reinsert the battery, and turn it back on. Does the problem still
    >exist?"


    Not the SIM bit, which would only help if it wasn't installed correctly.

    >Every call to customer service ends with, "Be sure to turn your phone
    >off and on at least once a day."
    >
    >Maybe John can explain that.
    >
    >Nah.


    Yah actually. That's done to ensure an automatic OTA push of all available
    updates.

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  4. #19
    JohnF
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    Re: Service - technology of the future


    "CharlesH" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > Tropical Haven wrote:
    >> We reboot our computers on a regular basis, why not our phones?

    >
    > Maybe one has to do that with some computers running Microsoft operating
    > systems. Most Unix servers I've supported at work run a year or so between
    > reboots, and that is only because the company turned off the power for
    > maintenance.


    The Microsoft servers I support also run for years at a time between
    reboots. I can't figure out what people are doing to these systems to
    require reboots so often? That was the Windows 95 days.





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