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- 10-29-2005, 05:39 PM #16CharlesHGuest
Re: Service - technology of the future
Tropical Haven wrote:
> We reboot our computers on a regular basis, why not our phones?
Maybe one has to do that with some computers running Microsoft operating
systems. Most Unix servers I've supported at work run a year or so
between reboots, and that is only because the company turned off the
power for maintenance.
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- 10-31-2005, 05:00 AM #17John NavasGuest
Re: Service - technology of the future
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In <[email protected]> on Sat, 29 Oct 2005 18:24:08
GMT, "Cliff" <[email protected]> wrote:
>"John Navas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>>
>> In <U3z8f.26670$OM4.11038@dukeread06> on Fri, 28 Oct 2005 20:08:34 -0400,
>> Tropical Haven <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> >... Even my Nokia 6340i worked better with regular
>> >reboots. We reboot our computers on a regular basis, why not our phones?
>>
>> By that logic, why not our cars, microwave ovens, dishwashers, digital
>> thermostats, TVs, VCRs, DVD players, Walkpersons, iPods, etc. Answer:
>> Because we shouldn't have to! My V551 has never needed to be rebooted.
>I think the logic here is that anything with a computer and programmable
>memory inside of it will be better off with a "fresh start" once in a while.
Not necessarily. All the devices I cited have a computer and programmable
memory inside of them, but are designed to operate indefinitely without being
rebooted. That's done by managing resources in such a way that programming
errors don't result in resource leaks, and by self-checking that maintains
data integrity, with transparent recovery. By comparison, rebooting is crude.
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- 10-31-2005, 05:02 AM #18John NavasGuest
Re: Service - technology of the future
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In <[email protected]> on Sat, 29 Oct 2005
17:26:58 -0400, "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <[email protected]> wrote:
>In article <[email protected]>,
> "Cliff" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> > By that logic, why not our cars, microwave ovens, dishwashers, digital
>> > thermostats, TVs, VCRs, DVD players, Walkpersons, iPods, etc. Answer:
>> > Because we shouldn't have to! My V551 has never needed to be rebooted.
>> I think the logic here is that anything with a computer and programmable
>> memory inside of it will be better off with a "fresh start" once in a while.
>
>Every call to customer service gets the same first response: "turn your
>phone off, remove the battery, remove the SIM, reinsert the SIM,
>reinsert the battery, and turn it back on. Does the problem still
>exist?"
Not the SIM bit, which would only help if it wasn't installed correctly.
>Every call to customer service ends with, "Be sure to turn your phone
>off and on at least once a day."
>
>Maybe John can explain that.
>
>Nah.
Yah actually. That's done to ensure an automatic OTA push of all available
updates.
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- 11-01-2005, 07:36 AM #19JohnFGuest
Re: Service - technology of the future
"CharlesH" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Tropical Haven wrote:
>> We reboot our computers on a regular basis, why not our phones?
>
> Maybe one has to do that with some computers running Microsoft operating
> systems. Most Unix servers I've supported at work run a year or so between
> reboots, and that is only because the company turned off the power for
> maintenance.
The Microsoft servers I support also run for years at a time between
reboots. I can't figure out what people are doing to these systems to
require reboots so often? That was the Windows 95 days.
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