I cancelled my cingular service today I'M FREE, I'M FREE, FREEDOM!!!

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In <[email protected]> on Mon, 07 Nov 2005 01:00:23
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>"Evan Platt" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> On Sat, 05 Nov 2005 16:04:14 GMT, "JHNichols" <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
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>> This was a deductible. Quite common with insurance.
>
>No. They said it was activation fee. Where they lying?

Not necessarily -- "they" might simply have been confused or misinformed.

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In <[email protected]> on Mon, 07 Nov 2005 01:28:17
GMT, "JHNichols" <[email protected]> wrote:

>> how come you guys think that because you have service with a company they
>> need to give you free stuff when the stuff you have breaks down??
>
>If it is bought as a package deal and as close as anyone can figure the out
>the problem is because they "moved" their towers, Yes pretty much.

Towers aren't "moved."

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"John Navas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Towers aren't "moved."
>
I did not think that likely either. Their 'expert' words, not mine.

You're right. Towers aren't "moved" typically. TDMA towers are either
replaced or re-moved.

TabooLexicon wrote:

> You're right. Towers aren't "moved" typically. TDMA towers are either
> replaced or re-moved.
>

try "reconfigured"


They are more like self store buildings, the lease,
building, tower are owned by investor groups or listed
companies. Carriers rent tower space and rack space for
their antennas, transceivers and controllers. An operator
might have several paging companies, local cellphone
companies, and the nationals running their flavors of mts,
amps, tdma, cdma, gsm at the same location. Check the decks
of antennas on the tower.

Some of the nationals still own some of their own towers,
and even they swap space with other operators to fill-in
holes in their coverage. About 10 years ago, the carriers
decided it was better to be in the service business and not
be a property manager, building manager, construction
company and tower erector.

Google American Tower Corp and start your own cell company!
There are still investors setting on FCC frequency auction
winnings (you might not like your service area).

-larry / dallas

John Navas wrote:
> Towers aren't "moved."

So that 150' hunk of steel we moved wasn't a tower?

Towers CAN and ARE "moved", but VERY rarely. Please don't make a blanket
statement if you are not actively involved in the industry as a
professional.

TabooLexicon wrote:
> You're right. Towers aren't "moved" typically. TDMA towers are either
> replaced or re-moved.

That too....

Cases in point -

Cingular 150' monopole was overloaded with a new monster housing
development. Tower was "RIPed" (Retired In Place) and two new cells
built out. One was MOVED to a water tower and other co-located on an
AT&T 150' self-supporting tower.

Cingular 150' self-supporting tower MOVED to a new location, only the
concrete pad was left in place. Farmer was content with us pulling out
the building slab and covering over the tower pad with two feet of earth.

Cingular 4th story building location MOVED to a 150' monopole.

Cingular and an AT&T towers locations ripped, new tower built.

So...of course cell site locations are relocated and towers are moved.

TabooLexicon wrote:
> You're right. Towers aren't "moved" typically. TDMA towers are either
> replaced or re-moved.

Forgot...one monopole got "redeployed" to a new location. Actually
several locations. Insurance covered the tornado damage.

Thanks for the good info Cowboy.

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In <[email protected]> on Sun, 20 Nov 2005
16:31:59 GMT, DecTxCowboy <[email protected]> wrote:

>John Navas wrote:
>> Towers aren't "moved."
>
>So that 150' hunk of steel we moved wasn't a tower?
>
>Towers CAN and ARE "moved", but VERY rarely.

Which was of course my point, your quibble notwithstanding.

>Please don't make a blanket
>statement if you are not actively involved in the industry as a
>professional.

It was a generally true simplification(tm), not a precise statement of fact.

But then of course you knew that.

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John Navas wrote:
> But then of course you knew that.

"No, I didn't know that..." <-- James Garner as Jim Rockford, "Rockford
File" circa mid-70s

TabooLexicon wrote:
> Thanks for the good info Cowboy.

Just offering my knowledgable professional observations of the industry.

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In <0u3gf.21197$q%[email protected]> on Sun, 20 Nov 2005
18:44:12 GMT, DecTxCowboy <[email protected]> wrote:

>TabooLexicon wrote:

>> Thanks for the good info Cowboy.
>
>Just offering my knowledgable professional observations of the industry.

And modest too.

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"John Navas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> In <0u3gf.21197$q%[email protected]> on Sun, 20 Nov 2005
> 18:44:12 GMT, DecTxCowboy <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>TabooLexicon wrote:
>
>>> Thanks for the good info Cowboy.
>>
>>Just offering my knowledgable professional observations of the industry.
>
> And modest too.
>
> --

A level of knowledge much higher than yours is exhibited here, as well as in
other threads. You are quickly being exposed once again as clueless and
possessing a knowledge base in line with the average user. Of course, you
should be used to that by now.

How did you put it? Oh yeah- Jealousy is a *****.

John Navas wrote:
>>Just offering my knowledgable professional observations of the industry.
>
> And modest too.

Yet another petty and meaningless response without merit.