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- 01-23-2006, 04:18 PM #1amarGuest
I am planning on buying two Cingular phones/plans -- one for personal
use and the other for business use, the latter paid for by my employer.
If I forward from my personal phone to my business phone (so I only
have to carry one), will I get charged for minutes on BOTH plans or
only my personal phone plan?
Thanks!
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- 01-23-2006, 04:38 PM #2Jon NewmanGuest
Re: Call forwarding between two Cingular phones
"amar" <[email protected]> wrote in news:1138054737.799363.217440
@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com:
> I am planning on buying two Cingular phones/plans -- one for personal
> use and the other for business use, the latter paid for by my employer.
>
>
> If I forward from my personal phone to my business phone (so I only
> have to carry one), will I get charged for minutes on BOTH plans or
> only my personal phone plan?
>
> Thanks!
>
>
This would probably fall under Mobile to Mobile and the call would be free.
However, you might want to check since the definition on the Cingular site
says from one account to another account. If both are your account the
Mobile to Mobile may not count. So, be safe, aske them first.
- 01-23-2006, 08:51 PM #3Annie WoughmanGuest
Re: Call forwarding between two Cingular phones
"Jon Newman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "amar" <[email protected]> wrote in news:1138054737.799363.217440
> @z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com:
>
>> I am planning on buying two Cingular phones/plans -- one for personal
>> use and the other for business use, the latter paid for by my employer.
>>
>>
>> If I forward from my personal phone to my business phone (so I only
>> have to carry one), will I get charged for minutes on BOTH plans or
>> only my personal phone plan?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>>
>
> This would probably fall under Mobile to Mobile and the call would be
> free.
> However, you might want to check since the definition on the Cingular site
> says from one account to another account. If both are your account the
> Mobile to Mobile may not count. So, be safe, aske them first.
The mobile to mobile is OK, because our four lines are under one name, and
all our calls to each other are free, that is why they are called "family
share plans." It is the call-forwarding that will bite you if you don't
check that out. I think somewhere in the fine print it says that
call-forwarding does away with the free mobile to mobile angle.
- 01-23-2006, 08:58 PM #4William TuckerGuest
Re: Call forwarding between two Cingular phones
"Annie Woughman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Jon Newman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> "amar" <[email protected]> wrote in news:1138054737.799363.217440
>> @z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com:
>>
>>> I am planning on buying two Cingular phones/plans -- one for personal
>>> use and the other for business use, the latter paid for by my employer.
>>>
>>>
>>> If I forward from my personal phone to my business phone (so I only
>>> have to carry one), will I get charged for minutes on BOTH plans or
>>> only my personal phone plan?
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>>
>>
>> This would probably fall under Mobile to Mobile and the call would be
>> free.
>> However, you might want to check since the definition on the Cingular
>> site
>> says from one account to another account. If both are your account the
>> Mobile to Mobile may not count. So, be safe, aske them first.
>
> The mobile to mobile is OK, because our four lines are under one name, and
> all our calls to each other are free, that is why they are called "family
> share plans." It is the call-forwarding that will bite you if you don't
> check that out. I think somewhere in the fine print it says that
> call-forwarding does away with the free mobile to mobile angle.
I think you are right about the call forwarding. On the Cingular site it
says:
"Call Forwarding lets you forward your incoming wireless calls to another
phone number. Airtime charges, plus any applicable long distance and/or
roaming charges, are incurred for calls forwarded via the wireless network.
With Call Forwarding activated:
a.. You can continue to make outgoing calls from your telephone. Incoming
calls will be forwarded.
b.. When the telephone number to which your calls are being forwarded is
busy, callers to your number will receive a busy signal.
c.. To change the number to which your calls are forwarded, deactivate the
feature. Then, follow the activation instructions to enter the new number.
Call Forwarding is included on all Cingular and former AT&T Wireless rate
plans. Forwarded calls are billed airtime from the time the call is answered
until it is ended. Each call forwarded may receive, depending on your
location, per minute/per call or interconnect charges based on where the
call is forwarded. Long Distance charges apply if the call is forwarded to a
long distance number. If you are on a former AT&T Wireless rate plan, call
forwarding minutes do not apply to your included minutes."
- 01-23-2006, 11:11 PM #5Annie WoughmanGuest
Re: Call forwarding between two Cingular phones
"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In article <[email protected]>,
> "Annie Woughman" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> The mobile to mobile is OK, because our four lines are under one name,
>> and
>> all our calls to each other are free, that is why they are called "family
>> share plans."
>
> No, it's not.
>
> They're family share plans only because of the billing.
>
> Mobile to mobile calls from any Cingular number to any other Cingular
> number, regardless of who owns the numbers, are free for those who have
> unlimited mobile to mobile calling.
>
OK, we all get the free mobile to mobile among the Cingular network but Jon
Newman wrote:
"However, you might want to check since the definition on the Cingular
site
says from one account to another account. If both are your account the
Mobile to Mobile may not count. So, be safe, aske them first."
I was telling them that even if both the numbers are owned by the same
person or on the same account, they are STILL free mobile to mobile. The
cellular companies tout these plans as "family share plans" for this reason.
You have unlimited minutes among the members of your family plan--that is
the selling point. Jon advised him to ask because he thought that wasn't
the deal.
- 01-23-2006, 11:19 PM #6CliffGuest
Re: Call forwarding between two Cingular phones
"Annie Woughman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > In article <[email protected]>,
> > "Annie Woughman" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> The mobile to mobile is OK, because our four lines are under one name,
> >> and
> >> all our calls to each other are free, that is why they are called
"family
> >> share plans."
> >
> > No, it's not.
> >
> > They're family share plans only because of the billing.
> >
> > Mobile to mobile calls from any Cingular number to any other Cingular
> > number, regardless of who owns the numbers, are free for those who have
> > unlimited mobile to mobile calling.
> >
> OK, we all get the free mobile to mobile among the Cingular network but
Jon
> Newman wrote:
> "However, you might want to check since the definition on the Cingular
> site
> says from one account to another account. If both are your account the
> Mobile to Mobile may not count. So, be safe, aske them first."
>
> I was telling them that even if both the numbers are owned by the same
> person or on the same account, they are STILL free mobile to mobile. The
> cellular companies tout these plans as "family share plans" for this
reason.
> You have unlimited minutes among the members of your family plan--that is
> the selling point. Jon advised him to ask because he thought that wasn't
> the deal.
>
>
I think that the little * in this thread is that the call forwarding minutes
may not be applied as M2M as they are call forwarded and may fall into a
separate category. On ATTWS you would be charged the per minute rate for
call forwarding.(i.e. .35 cents a minute)
- 01-24-2006, 10:05 AM #7HarryGuest
Re: Call forwarding between two Cingular phones
On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 06:47:36 -0500, "Elmo P. Shagnasty"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>In article <[email protected]>,
> "Annie Woughman" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I was telling them that even if both the numbers are owned by the same
>> person or on the same account, they are STILL free mobile to mobile.
>
>well...yes....because ALL Cingular-to-Cingular calling is free. It's
>not an "even if.." situation. Your "Even if..." situation assumes that
>there exists some circumstances for which the Cingular-to-Cingular calls
>are NOT free.
>
Actually there is at least one situation where Cingular to Cingular
calling is not free. That is the now discontinued $29.99 plan
(however it was only discontinued within the last year so there are
still people on it.
Under this plan, when I signed up for it, I received two buckets of
minutes per month: 250 anytime minutes and 1,000 night and weekend.
Call fordwarding, and Cingular to Cingular calling, come out of the
appropriate bucket.
- 01-24-2006, 10:27 AM #8DecaturTxCowboyGuest
Re: Call forwarding between two Cingular phones
amar wrote:
> If I forward from my personal phone to my business phone (so I only
> have to carry one), will I get charged for minutes on BOTH plans or
> only my personal phone plan?
He has a good question here....
While calls from a Cingular user to another Cingular user are free,
regardless if the two phones on different accounts, different markets
(i.e. Dallas and west Texas area), different family plans, etc., the
Call Forwarding clause might override this.
In other words, if you forward your call, the Cingular billing apparatus
might see this as a billable call. Since I really don't trust Customer
Service to understand the question, I suppose the best way to settle
this topic would be to simply try it out and look at your bill the
following month.
- 01-25-2006, 07:59 AM #9BenGuest
Re: Call forwarding between two Cingular phones
All forwarded calls are charged from the get go, its, its own bucket. I was
charged for forwarding $.40 per minute, even though I had plenty of
minutes.
"DecaturTxCowboy" <DTC@boogie_boggie.blog> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> amar wrote:
>> If I forward from my personal phone to my business phone (so I only
>> have to carry one), will I get charged for minutes on BOTH plans or
>> only my personal phone plan?
>
> He has a good question here....
>
> While calls from a Cingular user to another Cingular user are free,
> regardless if the two phones on different accounts, different markets
> (i.e. Dallas and west Texas area), different family plans, etc., the Call
> Forwarding clause might override this.
>
> In other words, if you forward your call, the Cingular billing apparatus
> might see this as a billable call. Since I really don't trust Customer
> Service to understand the question, I suppose the best way to settle this
> topic would be to simply try it out and look at your bill the following
> month.
>
>
- 01-25-2006, 08:33 AM #10DecaturTxCowboyGuest
Re: Call forwarding between two Cingular phones
Ben wrote:
> All forwarded calls are charged from the get go, its, its own bucket. I was
> charged for forwarding $.40 per minute, even though I had plenty of
> minutes.
Well, I guess that answers that question for us. Thanks.
- 01-25-2006, 09:21 AM #11HarryGuest
Re: Call forwarding between two Cingular phones
On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 08:59:54 -0500, "Ben" <[email protected]> wrote:
>All forwarded calls are charged from the get go, its, its own bucket. I was
>charged for forwarding $.40 per minute, even though I had plenty of
>minutes.
>
Interesting. I use call forwarding also and I am charged minutes but
there never any surcharge. I wonder what the difference is? In my case
the forwarding is to a local landline number. Maybe that is the
difference.
>
>"DecaturTxCowboy" <DTC@boogie_boggie.blog> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> amar wrote:
>>> If I forward from my personal phone to my business phone (so I only
>>> have to carry one), will I get charged for minutes on BOTH plans or
>>> only my personal phone plan?
>>
>> He has a good question here....
>>
>> While calls from a Cingular user to another Cingular user are free,
>> regardless if the two phones on different accounts, different markets
>> (i.e. Dallas and west Texas area), different family plans, etc., the Call
>> Forwarding clause might override this.
>>
>> In other words, if you forward your call, the Cingular billing apparatus
>> might see this as a billable call. Since I really don't trust Customer
>> Service to understand the question, I suppose the best way to settle this
>> topic would be to simply try it out and look at your bill the following
>> month.
>>
>>
>
- 01-26-2006, 09:06 AM #12BenGuest
Re: Call forwarding between two Cingular phones
"Harry" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 08:59:54 -0500, "Ben" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>All forwarded calls are charged from the get go, its, its own bucket. I
>>was
>>charged for forwarding $.40 per minute, even though I had plenty of
>>minutes.
>>
>
> Interesting. I use call forwarding also and I am charged minutes but
> there never any surcharge. I wonder what the difference is? In my case
> the forwarding is to a local landline number. Maybe that is the
> difference.
I don't know, I am a legacy customer on the blue side. I saw the feature in
my phone (Nokia 3650), so setup forward on busy and no answer. Both were
charged by the minute, even though I had plenty of minutes. Maybe the orange
side has different rules?
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