Razr Sim card question

Got a Razr recently (first phone with a sim card for me) and I really
need your guys/gals help!
I got Mobile Phone Tools, where I organized all my contacts, transfered
them to the Razr, I added pictures and ID ringtones to some of my
contacts and everything is working fine.....
What should I do next?
Should I transfer all this information to the Sim Card?
If so, what is the advantage of doing so?
How do I do it?
By doing so, will my phone book listing have duplicates or will I just
be able to switch from Sim memory to Phone memory?
Sorry for the long post.
Thank you very much for your help in advance.

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FLHunter wrote:
> Got a Razr recently (first phone with a sim card for me) and I really
> need your guys/gals help!
> I got Mobile Phone Tools, where I organized all my contacts, transfered
> them to the Razr, I added pictures and ID ringtones to some of my
> contacts and everything is working fine.....
> What should I do next?
> Should I transfer all this information to the Sim Card?
> If so, what is the advantage of doing so?
> How do I do it?
> By doing so, will my phone book listing have duplicates or will I just
> be able to switch from Sim memory to Phone memory?
> Sorry for the long post.
> Thank you very much for your help in advance.
>

I recently copied my contacts on my V180 to the SIM card and now I see duplicates for every entry.
Ugh. I don't see any way on this phone to only show phone contacts and not SIM contacts. How do I
blow away all my contacts (I can easily re-load from my Mac) on the phone? Master clear?

Thanks,
-Jason

The SIM card is just a basic number storage device. It can store a name
and a number and that's about it. It can't store things like whether it's
a work or home number. This is because every phone stores these
things diffently and a SIM is designed to be portable across different
phones, so the most basic storage layout is used. With phones today,
if you need a backup of your numbers, you're much better off hooking it
up to your PC and dumping them to Outlook or whatever phonetools
suite is available for your particular phone.

"FLHunter" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Got a Razr recently (first phone with a sim card for me) and I really
> need your guys/gals help!
> I got Mobile Phone Tools, where I organized all my contacts, transfered
> them to the Razr, I added pictures and ID ringtones to some of my
> contacts and everything is working fine.....
> What should I do next?
> Should I transfer all this information to the Sim Card?
> If so, what is the advantage of doing so?
> How do I do it?
> By doing so, will my phone book listing have duplicates or will I just
> be able to switch from Sim memory to Phone memory?
> Sorry for the long post.
> Thank you very much for your help in advance.
>

In article <ibgSf.4048$Sb.1822@trndny08>, RobR <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>"FLHunter" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> Got a Razr recently (first phone with a sim card for me) and I really
>> need your guys/gals help!
>> I got Mobile Phone Tools, where I organized all my contacts, transfered
>> them to the Razr, I added pictures and ID ringtones to some of my
>> contacts and everything is working fine.....
>> What should I do next?
>> Should I transfer all this information to the Sim Card?
>> If so, what is the advantage of doing so?
>> How do I do it?
>> By doing so, will my phone book listing have duplicates or will I just
>> be able to switch from Sim memory to Phone memory?
>> Sorry for the long post.
>> Thank you very much for your help in advance.
>>
>
>The SIM card is just a basic number storage device. It can store a name
>and a number and that's about it. It can't store things like whether it's
>a work or home number. This is because every phone stores these
>things diffently and a SIM is designed to be portable across different
>phones, so the most basic storage layout is used. With phones today,
>if you need a backup of your numbers, you're much better off hooking it
>up to your PC and dumping them to Outlook or whatever phonetools
>suite is available for your particular phone.

It's amazing that, some UI improvements notwithstanding, Motorola still
doesn't "get it". Every Nokia phone I've seen in recent years, has the
option to use the SIM card, phone memory, or both when displaying phone
book entries. This way the duplicated entries can be ignored, but you
still have them on the SIM card should you transfer to another phone.
Further, Nokia lets you copy **OR** move entries from memory to SIM card,
or vice-versa, one at a time or all at once. Still further, you can delete
the contents of memory only, or the SIM card only (after entering your
security code). To date, no Motorola phone, even with the latest flash in
the Razr/ PEBL, SLVR, etc, lets you do **ANY** of these things.

I have an old Nokia phone that I use simply as a repository for SIM card
backup, and for transferring phone books to and from SIM cards for use in
Motorola phones.

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In <[email protected]> on Thu, 16 Mar 2006 16:44:49 +0000 (UTC),
[email protected] (Mike S.) wrote:

>In article <ibgSf.4048$Sb.1822@trndny08>, RobR <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>"FLHunter" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]...
>>> Got a Razr recently (first phone with a sim card for me) and I really
>>> need your guys/gals help!
>>> I got Mobile Phone Tools, where I organized all my contacts, transfered
>>> them to the Razr, I added pictures and ID ringtones to some of my
>>> contacts and everything is working fine.....
>>> What should I do next?
>>> Should I transfer all this information to the Sim Card?
>>> If so, what is the advantage of doing so?
>>> How do I do it?
>>> By doing so, will my phone book listing have duplicates or will I just
>>> be able to switch from Sim memory to Phone memory?

>>The SIM card is just a basic number storage device. It can store a name
>>and a number and that's about it. It can't store things like whether it's
>>a work or home number. This is because every phone stores these
>>things diffently and a SIM is designed to be portable across different
>>phones, so the most basic storage layout is used. With phones today,
>>if you need a backup of your numbers, you're much better off hooking it
>>up to your PC and dumping them to Outlook or whatever phonetools
>>suite is available for your particular phone.
>
>It's amazing that, some UI improvements notwithstanding, Motorola still
>doesn't "get it". Every Nokia phone I've seen in recent years, has the
>option to use the SIM card, phone memory, or both when displaying phone
>book entries. This way the duplicated entries can be ignored, but you
>still have them on the SIM card should you transfer to another phone.
>Further, Nokia lets you copy **OR** move entries from memory to SIM card,
>or vice-versa, one at a time or all at once. Still further, you can delete
>the contents of memory only, or the SIM card only (after entering your
>security code). To date, no Motorola phone, even with the latest flash in
>the Razr/ PEBL, SLVR, etc, lets you do **ANY** of these things.

Much better (IMHO at least) to use (1) syncing software or (2) SyncML.

--
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Somewhere around Thu, 16 Mar 2006 16:44:49 +0000 (UTC), while reading
alt.cellular.cingular, I think I thought I saw this post from
[email protected] (Mike S.):

>It's amazing that, some UI improvements notwithstanding, Motorola still
>doesn't "get it". Every Nokia phone I've seen in recent years, has the
>option to use the SIM card, phone memory, or both when displaying phone
>book entries. This way the duplicated entries can be ignored, but you
>still have them on the SIM card should you transfer to another phone.
>Further, Nokia lets you copy **OR** move entries from memory to SIM card,
>or vice-versa, one at a time or all at once. Still further, you can delete
>the contents of memory only, or the SIM card only (after entering your
>security code). To date, no Motorola phone, even with the latest flash in
>the Razr/ PEBL, SLVR, etc, lets you do **ANY** of these things.
>
>I have an old Nokia phone that I use simply as a repository for SIM card
>backup, and for transferring phone books to and from SIM cards for use in
>Motorola phones.
>
I agree - my Samsung phone also duplicated the entries. I had Nokia before
that, and was surprised that it wasn't the norm.

I don't put anything on the sim card for my Motorola, just back up to the
PC.

One workaround I've read about for the RAZR is to add all phone entries (but
not sim card entries) to one category, and then filter by that category
instead of "all". But it seems like that would prohibit using categories
for anything else, as it looks like an entry can only be a member of one
category (another dumb limitation).

I would copy all the phone entries to a PC, erase all entries, then reload
to the phone.

--
Marty - public.forums (at) gmail (dot) com
"Those are my principles, and if you don't like them...
well, I have others." - Groucho Marx

Short answer: Don't store them to the SIM. You will have dupes!
There is no benefit to doing so unless your're swapping phones
regularly. When you get a new phone, you have everything backed up with
MPT anyway.


> Got a Razr recently (first phone with a sim card for me) and I really
> need your guys/gals help!
> I got Mobile Phone Tools, where I organized all my contacts,
> transfered them to the Razr, I added pictures and ID ringtones to
> some of my contacts and everything is working fine.....
> What should I do next?
> Should I transfer all this information to the Sim Card?
> If so, what is the advantage of doing so?
> How do I do it?
> By doing so, will my phone book listing have duplicates or will I just
> be able to switch from Sim memory to Phone memory?
> Sorry for the long post.
> Thank you very much for your help in advance.

"BruceR" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news[email protected]...
> Short answer: Don't store them to the SIM. You will have dupes!

I disagree. Having duplicate entries is an annoyance at worst. Having no
entries at all is a real show-stopper.

The short answer really is, "It depends." If you want to swap phones a lot,
store your numbers in your SIM. If you want to swap SIMs in the same phone,
e.g. while travelling internationally, then by all means store your numbers
in the phone.

I would even argue that moving the info between two SIMS is easier (via SIM
copier) than moving info between two phones (via computer). The former is
cheap and portable and there are no compatability issues (that I know
about). But if you're transferring data between phones, you must have
compatible hardware and software for all such phones on your computer. This
often means more than one cable, and more than one manufacturer's phone
tools.