at&t sim, Cingular 8125

Hi. I am a cingular customer and am using an AT&T (Blue) sim card. I had a
Siemens SX56 but am now using a Nokia 6800 - both seemed to work fine on the
Cingular network with my at&t sim card.

If I buy a Cingular 8125 from ebay, locked OR unlocked, would either work
the same? Anything I need to look out for?


Could anything happen that would make my at&t sim card unusable? I am
worried that if something happens to it then I will be forced to upgrade to
a cingular plan.


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"Theorbo" <db%*%1%*%2@hot%*%mail.com> wrote in message
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> Hi. I am a cingular customer and am using an AT&T (Blue) sim card. I had a
> Siemens SX56 but am now using a Nokia 6800 - both seemed to work fine on
> the Cingular network with my at&t sim card.
>
> If I buy a Cingular 8125 from ebay, locked OR unlocked, would either work
> the same? Anything I need to look out for?
>
>
> Could anything happen that would make my at&t sim card unusable? I am
> worried that if something happens to it then I will be forced to upgrade
> to a cingular plan.

done that several times and it works. Just call tech support and give them
the info on the new phone IMEI number and such. Don't let anyone bull****
you about it either, as some will try. The new phone should make and rec.
calls as soon as you put the sim in though. Picture messaging and such is
why you'll need to have the change your info to the new phone.

Somewhere around Sun, 19 Mar 2006 21:07:46 GMT, while reading
alt.cellular.cingular, I think I thought I saw this post from "Theorbo"
<db%*%1%*%2@hot%*%mail.com>:

>Hi. I am a cingular customer and am using an AT&T (Blue) sim card. I had a
>Siemens SX56 but am now using a Nokia 6800 - both seemed to work fine on the
>Cingular network with my at&t sim card.
>
>If I buy a Cingular 8125 from ebay, locked OR unlocked, would either work
>the same? Anything I need to look out for?
>
If it is locked to Cingular, I am pretty sure it won't work with the AT&T
sime card. Unlocked will work. I never had an AT&T sim, but I got two AT&T
phones and they wouldn't work with my Cingular sims until I had them
unlocked (I paid 15 or 20 dollars to have them unlocked).
>
>Could anything happen that would make my at&t sim card unusable? I am
>worried that if something happens to it then I will be forced to upgrade to
>a cingular plan.

Anything can happen, but it would be pretty abnormal. If the phone has a
password or something, you don't want to mess around trying to guess it,
although that may only be something that the sim card would have.
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"Sarge" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
>
> "Theorbo" <db%*%1%*%2@hot%*%mail.com> wrote in message
> news:CKjTf.2590$1U1.691@trndny05...
>> Hi. I am a cingular customer and am using an AT&T (Blue) sim card. I had
>> a Siemens SX56 but am now using a Nokia 6800 - both seemed to work fine
>> on the Cingular network with my at&t sim card.
>>
>> If I buy a Cingular 8125 from ebay, locked OR unlocked, would either work
>> the same? Anything I need to look out for?
>>
>>
>> Could anything happen that would make my at&t sim card unusable? I am
>> worried that if something happens to it then I will be forced to upgrade
>> to a cingular plan.
>
> done that several times and it works. Just call tech support and give them
> the info on the new phone IMEI number and such. Don't let anyone bull****
> you about it either, as some will try. The new phone should make and rec.
> calls as soon as you put the sim in though. Picture messaging and such is
> why you'll need to have the change your info to the new phone.
>

The blue ATT sim will not work in a phone locked to orange Cingular.
You will need an unlocked phone.

"RobR" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:KZSTf.2105$hA2.1282@trndny02...
>
> "Sarge" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>>
>> "Theorbo" <db%*%1%*%2@hot%*%mail.com> wrote in message
>> news:CKjTf.2590$1U1.691@trndny05...
>>> Hi. I am a cingular customer and am using an AT&T (Blue) sim card. I had
>>> a Siemens SX56 but am now using a Nokia 6800 - both seemed to work fine
>>> on the Cingular network with my at&t sim card.
>>>
>>> If I buy a Cingular 8125 from ebay, locked OR unlocked, would either
>>> work the same? Anything I need to look out for?
>>>
>>>
>>> Could anything happen that would make my at&t sim card unusable? I am
>>> worried that if something happens to it then I will be forced to upgrade
>>> to a cingular plan.
>>
>> done that several times and it works. Just call tech support and give
>> them the info on the new phone IMEI number and such. Don't let anyone
>> bull**** you about it either, as some will try. The new phone should make
>> and rec. calls as soon as you put the sim in though. Picture messaging
>> and such is why you'll need to have the change your info to the new
>> phone.
>>
>
> The blue ATT sim will not work in a phone locked to orange Cingular.
> You will need an unlocked phone.

I have 3 phones here that say you're wrong. 2 V400s and a V220 all locked to
and branded cingular with ATT sims in them.

"Sarge" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
>
> "RobR" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:KZSTf.2105$hA2.1282@trndny02...
>>
>> "Sarge" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>>
>>> "Theorbo" <db%*%1%*%2@hot%*%mail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:CKjTf.2590$1U1.691@trndny05...
>>>> Hi. I am a cingular customer and am using an AT&T (Blue) sim card. I
>>>> had a Siemens SX56 but am now using a Nokia 6800 - both seemed to work
>>>> fine on the Cingular network with my at&t sim card.
>>>>
>>>> If I buy a Cingular 8125 from ebay, locked OR unlocked, would either
>>>> work the same? Anything I need to look out for?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Could anything happen that would make my at&t sim card unusable? I am
>>>> worried that if something happens to it then I will be forced to
>>>> upgrade to a cingular plan.
>>>
>>> done that several times and it works. Just call tech support and give
>>> them the info on the new phone IMEI number and such. Don't let anyone
>>> bull**** you about it either, as some will try. The new phone should
>>> make and rec. calls as soon as you put the sim in though. Picture
>>> messaging and such is why you'll need to have the change your info to
>>> the new phone.
>>>
>>
>> The blue ATT sim will not work in a phone locked to orange Cingular.
>> You will need an unlocked phone.
>
> I have 3 phones here that say you're wrong. 2 V400s and a V220 all locked
> to and branded cingular with ATT sims in them.
>

Then that's something new because orange SIMs sure didn't work
in my SE T616 or my wife's Samsung X427 when we switched
from AT&T to Cingular last year. It was the first thing I tried because
the wife wanted to continue to use her old phone until she had a
chance to put all her entries into the RAZR she got when I swapped
over.

"RobR" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:KvbUf.5206$8G2.1109@trndny01...
>
> "Sarge" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>>
>> "RobR" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:KZSTf.2105$hA2.1282@trndny02...
>>>
>>> "Sarge" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>>
>>>> "Theorbo" <db%*%1%*%2@hot%*%mail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:CKjTf.2590$1U1.691@trndny05...
>>>>> Hi. I am a cingular customer and am using an AT&T (Blue) sim card. I
>>>>> had a Siemens SX56 but am now using a Nokia 6800 - both seemed to work
>>>>> fine on the Cingular network with my at&t sim card.
>>>>>
>>>>> If I buy a Cingular 8125 from ebay, locked OR unlocked, would either
>>>>> work the same? Anything I need to look out for?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Could anything happen that would make my at&t sim card unusable? I am
>>>>> worried that if something happens to it then I will be forced to
>>>>> upgrade to a cingular plan.
>>>>
>>>> done that several times and it works. Just call tech support and give
>>>> them the info on the new phone IMEI number and such. Don't let anyone
>>>> bull**** you about it either, as some will try. The new phone should
>>>> make and rec. calls as soon as you put the sim in though. Picture
>>>> messaging and such is why you'll need to have the change your info to
>>>> the new phone.
>>>>
>>>
>>> The blue ATT sim will not work in a phone locked to orange Cingular.
>>> You will need an unlocked phone.
>>
>> I have 3 phones here that say you're wrong. 2 V400s and a V220 all locked
>> to and branded cingular with ATT sims in them.
>>
>
> Then that's something new because orange SIMs sure didn't work
> in my SE T616 or my wife's Samsung X427 when we switched
> from AT&T to Cingular last year. It was the first thing I tried because
> the wife wanted to continue to use her old phone until she had a
> chance to put all her entries into the RAZR she got when I swapped
> over.
>

Incidentally I also tried again in my T616 when my Nokia 6620 from
Cingular crapped out and I had to send it back to Nokia for repair
(which took just over one month).

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In <[email protected]> on Wed, 22 Mar 2006 01:09:51 -0600, "Sarge"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>"RobR" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:KZSTf.2105$hA2.1282@trndny02...

>> The blue ATT sim will not work in a phone locked to orange Cingular.
>> You will need an unlocked phone.
>
>I have 3 phones here that say you're wrong. 2 V400s and a V220 all locked to
>and branded cingular with ATT sims in them.

With all due respect, that's not possible. Your phones may actually be
unlocked -- some have been sold that way.

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"John Navas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> [POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]
>
> In <[email protected]> on Wed, 22 Mar 2006 01:09:51 -0600,
> "Sarge"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>"RobR" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:KZSTf.2105$hA2.1282@trndny02...
>
>>> The blue ATT sim will not work in a phone locked to orange Cingular.
>>> You will need an unlocked phone.
>>
>>I have 3 phones here that say you're wrong. 2 V400s and a V220 all locked
>>to
>>and branded cingular with ATT sims in them.
>
> With all due respect, that's not possible. Your phones may actually be
> unlocked -- some have been sold that way.

Well with the same respect, ( and I know you're the expert here) the v400s
came from cingular and the v220 I bought from a friend who left cingular.
None are unlocked. This is what a couple people at cingular tech support
tried to tell me but they were wrong. All of these phones make and rec
calls, send and rec text and MMS. So I dunno, like to have someone else do
it and report. I could send you pics or something if that would do any
good..... Is there a chance cingular at one time sold unlocked phones??
Also when I looked up the FAQs on how to set the phones under "former ATT
customers" the v400 is not even listed...... Yet under cingular it is. I
dunno John. Go figure.

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In <[email protected]> on Wed, 22 Mar 2006 18:58:10 -0600, "Sarge"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>"John Navas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>>
>> In <[email protected]> on Wed, 22 Mar 2006 01:09:51 -0600,
>> "Sarge"
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>"RobR" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>news:KZSTf.2105$hA2.1282@trndny02...
>>
>>>> The blue ATT sim will not work in a phone locked to orange Cingular.
>>>> You will need an unlocked phone.
>>>
>>>I have 3 phones here that say you're wrong. 2 V400s and a V220 all locked
>>>to
>>>and branded cingular with ATT sims in them.
>>
>> With all due respect, that's not possible. Your phones may actually be
>> unlocked -- some have been sold that way.
>
>Well with the same respect, ( and I know you're the expert here) the v400s
>came from cingular and the v220 I bought from a friend who left cingular.
>None are unlocked. This is what a couple people at cingular tech support
>tried to tell me but they were wrong.

What they told you is correct -- when a phone is locked to Cingular, then it
will only work with Cingular ("orange") SIMs. This is true of any GSM phone
and any carrier.

>All of these phones make and rec
>calls, send and rec text and MMS.

Any phone that works with an ATTWS ("blue") SIM is either (a) locked to ATTWS
or (b) unlocked.

>So I dunno, like to have someone else do
>it and report. I could send you pics or something if that would do any
>good..... Is there a chance cingular at one time sold unlocked phones??

Yes -- Cingular has sold some unlocked phones.

>Also when I looked up the FAQs on how to set the phones under "former ATT
>customers" the v400 is not even listed...... Yet under cingular it is. I
>dunno John. Go figure.

You could test it with a T-Mobile SIM. If it works with a T-Mobile SIM, then
it's definitely unlocked. If not, then it's an incredible anomoly.

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"John Navas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> [POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]
>
> In <[email protected]> on Wed, 22 Mar 2006 18:58:10 -0600,
> "Sarge"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>"John Navas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]...
>>>
>>> In <[email protected]> on Wed, 22 Mar 2006 01:09:51 -0600,
>>> "Sarge"
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>"RobR" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>>news:KZSTf.2105$hA2.1282@trndny02...
>>>

Thanks for the replies ...

OK: so is the sure-bet the fact than an at&t sim needs an at&t phone and a
cingular sim needs a cingular phone - unless they are unlocked? But, the
at&t sim will default to the cingular network? So, to use my at&t sim, I
need to get an unlocked phone and I'll be set. Also, is it possible to get
an used/additional at&t sim - in order to help prolong my ability to stay
with my at&t plan? I am worried that if something happened to my sim then I
would be forced to go with a cingular plan.

D

"John Navas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> [POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]
> You could test it with a T-Mobile SIM. If it works with a T-Mobile SIM,
> then
> it's definitely unlocked. If not, then it's an incredible anomoly.

Well T Mobile does not work out here in the boonies at all so I don't know
anyone that has one. Bummer...... Is there a handy way other than that to
tell if a v400 is unlocked? It ONLY has cingular settings in it.

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In <[email protected]> on Wed, 22 Mar 2006 22:40:20 -0600, "Sarge"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>"John Navas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...

>> You could test it with a T-Mobile SIM. If it works with a T-Mobile SIM,
>> then
>> it's definitely unlocked. If not, then it's an incredible anomoly.
>
>Well T Mobile does not work out here in the boonies at all so I don't know
>anyone that has one. Bummer...... Is there a handy way other than that to
>tell if a v400 is unlocked? It ONLY has cingular settings in it.

If it works with both "blue" (ATTWS) and "orange" (Cingular) SIMs, then it's
unlocked.

--
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John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingular_Wireless_FAQ>

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In <vdoUf.3053$1U1.1907@trndny05> on Thu, 23 Mar 2006 03:02:51 GMT, "Theorbo"
<db%*%1%*%2@hot%*%mail.com> wrote:

>OK: so is the sure-bet the fact than an at&t sim needs an at&t phone and a
>cingular sim needs a cingular phone - unless they are unlocked?

The other way around: An unlocked phone will work with any compatible SIM.
A locked phone will only work with a SIM for the carrier to which it is
locked.

>But, the
>at&t sim will default to the cingular network?

No, an ATTWS ("blue") SIM will always be "homed" to the "blue" (old ATTWS)
network, although it will also roam freely on the "orange" (Cingular) network
where there isn't a usable "blue" signal.

>So, to use my at&t sim, I
>need to get an unlocked phone and I'll be set.

Correct, or a phone locked to ATTWS.

>Also, is it possible to get
>an used/additional at&t sim - in order to help prolong my ability to stay
>with my at&t plan? I am worried that if something happened to my sim then I
>would be forced to go with a cingular plan.

You can indeed buy an unactivated ATTWS SIM (e.g., on eBay), but Cingular
might still refuse to activate it.

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John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingular_Wireless_FAQ>

"Jack D. Russell, Sr." <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> ===============================================
> * Reply by Jack D. Russell, Sr. <[email protected]>
> * Newsgroup: alt.cellular.cingular
> * Reply to: All; "Sarge" <[email protected]>
> * Date:Thu, 23 Mar 2006 07:53:23 -0500
> * Subj: Re: at&t sim, Cingular 8125
> =====================================================
>
> S>
> S> "John Navas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:> [email protected]...
> S>> [POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]
> S>> You could test it with a T-Mobile SIM. If it works with a T-Mobile
> S>> SIM, then it's definitely unlocked. If not, then it's an incredible
> S>> anomoly.
> S>
> S> Well T Mobile does not work out here in the boonies at all so I don't
> S> know anyone that has one. Bummer...... Is there a handy way other
> S> than that to tell if a v400 is unlocked? It ONLY has cingular
> S> settings in it.
> S>
> Cingular V400 handsets were sold unlocked, when they first offered them.
> Several NG participants verified this at that time. Can't remember the
> specifics in regard to the reason(s), but a search of the archives should
> enlighten anyone interested in same.
> --
> Jack

Yep, a quick google search pulls up several threads from this newsgroup
indicating that all Cingular "World Phones" (including the v400) were
sold unlocked by Cingular.