Cell Phones That Synchronize Well With Outlook?

Which cell phones that are supported by Cingular have good Bluetooth
support, excellent reception, and perfectly synchronize multiple phones
(minimum of three phones) for *each* contact? I understand that the
Motolora RAZR has a bad limitation that each phone requires a new contact
entry.

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Will

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The motorola phones allow you to add multiple numbers to an individual
provided that you are storing the information on the phone. I have
synchronized my outlook addressbook to my phone using motorola phone tools
with no problem.

"Will" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Which cell phones that are supported by Cingular have good Bluetooth
> support, excellent reception, and perfectly synchronize multiple phones
> (minimum of three phones) for *each* contact? I understand that the
> Motolora RAZR has a bad limitation that each phone requires a new contact
> entry.
>
> --
> Will
>
>

I don't quite understand some subtlety here. All of the other posts here
say a shortcoming of the Motorola RAZR is that it requires one address book
entry per phone if you are synchronizing with Outlook. Are you not agreeing
with that? I wasn't asking a question about what you can do on the phone
without synchronizing to Outlook.

My question is what cell phone will let me store multiple phones
hierarchically under the address book entry on *both* the phone and Outlook,
and synchronize in that form seamlessly. I need to use Outlook as a form
of backup for the case I lose the phone or the SIM card is corrupted or
damaged. I don't want a hierarchical address book to become a flat
one-phone-per-contact book on Outlook, which would make it next to
impossible to send the book from Outlook to another phone is an organized
state.

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Will


"Ann" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:eC5_f.673873$084.470834@attbi_s22...
> The motorola phones allow you to add multiple numbers to an individual
> provided that you are storing the information on the phone. I have
> synchronized my outlook addressbook to my phone using motorola phone tools
> with no problem.
>
> "Will" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Which cell phones that are supported by Cingular have good Bluetooth
> > support, excellent reception, and perfectly synchronize multiple phones
> > (minimum of three phones) for *each* contact? I understand that the
> > Motolora RAZR has a bad limitation that each phone requires a new
contact
> > entry.
> >
> > --
> > Will
> >
> >
>
>

In alt.cellular.cingular Will <[email protected]> wrote:
> I don't quite understand some subtlety here. All of the other posts here
> say a shortcoming of the Motorola RAZR is that it requires one address book
> entry per phone if you are synchronizing with Outlook. Are you not agreeing
> with that? I wasn't asking a question about what you can do on the phone
> without synchronizing to Outlook.

I think you worded the inquiry awkwardly. I thought you wanted to use the
same Outlook database with three different telephones (I do that). I'm
still not sure that isn't what you are asking.

> My question is what cell phone will let me store multiple phones
> hierarchically under the address book entry on *both* the phone and Outlook,
> and synchronize in that form seamlessly. I need to use Outlook as a form
> of backup for the case I lose the phone or the SIM card is corrupted or
> damaged. I don't want a hierarchical address book to become a flat
> one-phone-per-contact book on Outlook, which would make it next to
> impossible to send the book from Outlook to another phone is an organized
> state.

Now I think you are talking about one phone, but you want to have more than
one phone number associated with the same contact name in both the phone
and Outlook. I do that.

I use Motorola Phone Tools and a Bluetooth Dongle to synchronize the
phonebook on my v551 and v220 with Outlook on Windows XP-SP2.

By default, the Motorola phones treat every phone number as a separate
entry in the phone book display. You can set your phone to only show one
listing for each name in the phone phonebook. phonebook-menu-setup-view
primary contacts. When you highlight a name, use right/left arrow, it
changes the icon, indicating the work/mobile/home, and leaves that one as
the one that shows as the primary number. If you "select" or "view, then
you can scroll up and down through the multiple entries for that name,
showing the number and the text description of that entry. From there,
menu allows you to set one as the primary.

Synced to Outlook, you get multiple phone numbers listed under one Contact.

The SIM won't store the breadth of information that you need for a nested
hierarchy. The numbers need to be stored to the phone, so that the
additional attribute of "home", "business", "email" can be stored with the
entry. When stored to SIM, all you get is a shorter name, the number, and
a location (speed number). Storing to the phone allows you to attach other
attributes, like a picture to display during ringing, a recording for
voice-dialing match, and phone number type.

The only thing I store to SIM is a a short set of emergency contact
numbers, because I know that the SIM will survive conditions that will
destroy the phone and its memory.

Motorola Phone Tools will use it's own database if you don't want to use
Outlook, although it defaults to Outlook. Once MPT comes up, use "File-New"
to create a new database, which will be a MS-Jet (Access) .mdb file,
accessible via MSAcces or ODB. It will also store the phonebook as a
..csv file, if all you are interested in is backup.

I bought Motorola Phone Tools from the BVRP web site at a higher price
because I wanted to download it and sync my phone book from my previous
phone immediately. It is cheaper on eBay, or from ShopOEM.com.

You can use promotion code tech97 to get a 15% discount off of any software
http://www.bvrp.com/customers/motorola/upgrade/US/


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Very good details. I was using the KISS method since some people don't
understand too much detail ... maybe your posting will be better received or
maybe not !@#$%^&*().

<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In alt.cellular.cingular Will <[email protected]> wrote:
>> I don't quite understand some subtlety here. All of the other posts
>> here
>> say a shortcoming of the Motorola RAZR is that it requires one address
>> book
>> entry per phone if you are synchronizing with Outlook. Are you not
>> agreeing
>> with that? I wasn't asking a question about what you can do on the
>> phone
>> without synchronizing to Outlook.
>
> I think you worded the inquiry awkwardly. I thought you wanted to use the
> same Outlook database with three different telephones (I do that). I'm
> still not sure that isn't what you are asking.
>
>> My question is what cell phone will let me store multiple phones
>> hierarchically under the address book entry on *both* the phone and
>> Outlook,
>> and synchronize in that form seamlessly. I need to use Outlook as a
>> form
>> of backup for the case I lose the phone or the SIM card is corrupted or
>> damaged. I don't want a hierarchical address book to become a flat
>> one-phone-per-contact book on Outlook, which would make it next to
>> impossible to send the book from Outlook to another phone is an organized
>> state.
>
> Now I think you are talking about one phone, but you want to have more
> than
> one phone number associated with the same contact name in both the phone
> and Outlook. I do that.
>
> I use Motorola Phone Tools and a Bluetooth Dongle to synchronize the
> phonebook on my v551 and v220 with Outlook on Windows XP-SP2.
>
> By default, the Motorola phones treat every phone number as a separate
> entry in the phone book display. You can set your phone to only show one
> listing for each name in the phone phonebook. phonebook-menu-setup-view
> primary contacts. When you highlight a name, use right/left arrow, it
> changes the icon, indicating the work/mobile/home, and leaves that one as
> the one that shows as the primary number. If you "select" or "view, then
> you can scroll up and down through the multiple entries for that name,
> showing the number and the text description of that entry. From there,
> menu allows you to set one as the primary.
>
> Synced to Outlook, you get multiple phone numbers listed under one
> Contact.
>
> The SIM won't store the breadth of information that you need for a nested
> hierarchy. The numbers need to be stored to the phone, so that the
> additional attribute of "home", "business", "email" can be stored with the
> entry. When stored to SIM, all you get is a shorter name, the number, and
> a location (speed number). Storing to the phone allows you to attach
> other
> attributes, like a picture to display during ringing, a recording for
> voice-dialing match, and phone number type.
>
> The only thing I store to SIM is a a short set of emergency contact
> numbers, because I know that the SIM will survive conditions that will
> destroy the phone and its memory.
>
> Motorola Phone Tools will use it's own database if you don't want to use
> Outlook, although it defaults to Outlook. Once MPT comes up, use
> "File-New"
> to create a new database, which will be a MS-Jet (Access) .mdb file,
> accessible via MSAcces or ODB. It will also store the phonebook as a
> .csv file, if all you are interested in is backup.
>
> I bought Motorola Phone Tools from the BVRP web site at a higher price
> because I wanted to download it and sync my phone book from my previous
> phone immediately. It is cheaper on eBay, or from ShopOEM.com.
>
> You can use promotion code tech97 to get a 15% discount off of any
> software
> http://www.bvrp.com/customers/motorola/upgrade/US/
>
>
> --
> ---
> Clarence A Dold - Hidden Valley (Lake County) CA USA 38.8,-122.5

The Razr will do what you want to do with Phone Tools 4. I have one
working with Outlook and a friends with Lotus Notes.

On Sun, 9 Apr 2006 15:06:02 -0700, "Will"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>I don't quite understand some subtlety here. All of the other posts here
>say a shortcoming of the Motorola RAZR is that it requires one address book
>entry per phone if you are synchronizing with Outlook. Are you not agreeing
>with that? I wasn't asking a question about what you can do on the phone
>without synchronizing to Outlook.
>
> My question is what cell phone will let me store multiple phones
>hierarchically under the address book entry on *both* the phone and Outlook,
>and synchronize in that form seamlessly. I need to use Outlook as a form
>of backup for the case I lose the phone or the SIM card is corrupted or
>damaged. I don't want a hierarchical address book to become a flat
>one-phone-per-contact book on Outlook, which would make it next to
>impossible to send the book from Outlook to another phone is an organized
>state.

I can't get Phone Tools 4 to work with my RAZR. Apparently a lot of users
have similar problems.

--
Will


<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> The Razr will do what you want to do with Phone Tools 4. I have one
> working with Outlook and a friends with Lotus Notes.

What kind of problems are you having?


> I can't get Phone Tools 4 to work with my RAZR. Apparently a lot
> of users have similar problems.
>
>
> <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> The Razr will do what you want to do with Phone Tools 4. I have one
>> working with Outlook and a friends with Lotus Notes.

See the thread with subject "Problems Recognizing RAZR V3 from Motorola
Phone Tools" dated 4/19/2006. I've tried almost all the approaches
suggested and the phone just doesn't work with the 4.04 software. I'll
probably have an admin here call up Motorola and walk through it but it
definitely isn't straightforward.

When I delete the device from Device Manager under Windows 2003 and then
reconnect it when the MPT 4.04 software asks for it, it simply hangs.
Another user says you must install a Windows 2000 driver on XP/2003 in order
to get it to work, which may be true but that's a very unfortunate hack and
Motorola should improve things to the point they can at least use drivers
for the correct OS.

--
Will


"BruceR" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> What kind of problems are you having?
>
>
> > I can't get Phone Tools 4 to work with my RAZR. Apparently a lot
> > of users have similar problems.
> >
> >
> > <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> >> The Razr will do what you want to do with Phone Tools 4. I have one
> >> working with Outlook and a friends with Lotus Notes.
>
>

I have had no problem with MPT4 and Win2k, 2k3 or XP. Perhaps your
admin rights are not set correctly?

Gabe

On Wed, 17 May 2006 21:13:53 -0700, "Will" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>See the thread with subject "Problems Recognizing RAZR V3 from Motorola
>Phone Tools" dated 4/19/2006. I've tried almost all the approaches
>suggested and the phone just doesn't work with the 4.04 software. I'll
>probably have an admin here call up Motorola and walk through it but it
>definitely isn't straightforward.
>
>When I delete the device from Device Manager under Windows 2003 and then
>reconnect it when the MPT 4.04 software asks for it, it simply hangs.
>Another user says you must install a Windows 2000 driver on XP/2003 in order
>to get it to work, which may be true but that's a very unfortunate hack and
>Motorola should improve things to the point they can at least use drivers
>for the correct OS.

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In <[email protected]> on Wed, 17 May 2006
19:08:38 -0700, "Will" <[email protected]> wrote:

>I can't get Phone Tools 4 to work with my RAZR. Apparently a lot of users
>have similar problems.

Depends on what you mean by "a lot". A great many users don't have problems.
When there are problems, it's usually from not following directions.

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Best regards, SEE THE FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS AT
John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingular_Wireless_FAQ>

[POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]

In <[email protected]> on Wed, 17 May 2006
21:13:53 -0700, "Will" <[email protected]> wrote:

>See the thread with subject "Problems Recognizing RAZR V3 from Motorola
>Phone Tools" dated 4/19/2006. I've tried almost all the approaches
>suggested and the phone just doesn't work with the 4.04 software. I'll
>probably have an admin here call up Motorola and walk through it but it
>definitely isn't straightforward.
>
>When I delete the device from Device Manager under Windows 2003 and then
>reconnect it when the MPT 4.04 software asks for it, it simply hangs.
>Another user says you must install a Windows 2000 driver on XP/2003 in order
>to get it to work, which may be true but that's a very unfortunate hack and
>Motorola should improve things to the point they can at least use drivers
>for the correct OS.

When there are problems, it's usually from not following directions; e.g.,
plugging in the phone *before* installing MPT, which is a Microsoft and user
problem, not a Motorola problem.

--
Best regards, SEE THE FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS AT
John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingular_Wireless_FAQ>

In alt.cellular.cingular Will <[email protected]> wrote:
> See the thread with subject "Problems Recognizing RAZR V3 from Motorola
> Phone Tools" dated 4/19/2006. I've tried almost all the approaches
> suggested and the phone just doesn't work with the 4.04 software. I'll
> probably have an admin here call up Motorola and walk through it but it
> definitely isn't straightforward.

Does that mean that you don't have administrative rights on your PC?
That could be an issue, since there is a driver involved.

> When I delete the device from Device Manager under Windows 2003 and then
> reconnect it when the MPT 4.04 software asks for it, it simply hangs.
> Another user says you must install a Windows 2000 driver on XP/2003 in order
> to get it to work, which may be true but that's a very unfortunate hack and
> Motorola should improve things to the point they can at least use drivers
> for the correct OS.

That is most certainly not a fault of MPT, or any of the other users of the
Widcomm Bluetooth drivers. It is more a problem with the Microsoft Bull In
A China Shop approach to discovering new drivers and loading their copy of
a somewhat suitable signed device driver, even if there is already a more
fully featured copy of another vendor's driver already loaded.

More astonishing than having MPT tell you to load a Win2000 driver is
Microsoft publishing a knowledge base article telling you to hack their inf
file to prevent it from auto-loading.

http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;840635
("Uh-oh", we screwed up that Bluetooth stuff... now what?"
"We can't stop the auto-installer... Let's cripple it.")

I don't know if you are using USB or BT. I have MPT 4.04 running for my
v220 via USB cable, and BT for a v551 on the same WinXP-SP2 machine.

I used the v220-USB driver from Cingular, and the BT driver from DLink.

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Clarence A Dold - Hidden Valley Lake, CA, USA GPS: 38.8,-122.5

Where can I get the v220-USB driver from Cingular?

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Will


<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In alt.cellular.cingular Will <[email protected]> wrote:
> I don't know if you are using USB or BT. I have MPT 4.04 running for my
> v220 via USB cable, and BT for a v551 on the same WinXP-SP2 machine.
>
> I used the v220-USB driver from Cingular, and the BT driver from DLink.
>
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> Clarence A Dold - Hidden Valley Lake, CA, USA GPS: 38.8,-122.5

In alt.cellular.cingular Will <[email protected]> wrote:
> Where can I get the v220-USB driver from Cingular?

http://www.cingular.com/midtolarge/communicationmgr
"Download the latest Communication Manager software here. "

This contains all of the Cingular supported devices. You can install the
application and uninstall it, which leaves the drivers installed.

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Clarence A Dold - Hidden Valley Lake, CA, USA GPS: 38.8,-122.5