cingular internet incompetence

John Navas <[email protected]> wrote:
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> In <[email protected]> on 02 May 2006 17:43:40
> GMT, "Thomas T. Veldhouse" <[email protected]> wrote:
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>>bernard farquart <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>> E-bay keeps you logged in for 24 hours, just as they
>>> mean to.
>>
>>And apparently, only if you don't close the browser. It has never worked
>>between sessions for me, on either IE or FF.
>
> Remember me on this computer works here for eBay, even when all browser
> windows are closed, with both IE6 and Firefox 1.5.0.2
>

The My Ebay link ALWAYS prompts for a password. As does bidding.

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"John Navas" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
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> In <[email protected]> on 02 May 2006 17:43:40
> GMT, "Thomas T. Veldhouse" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>bernard farquart <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>> E-bay keeps you logged in for 24 hours, just as they
>>> mean to.
>>
>>And apparently, only if you don't close the browser. It has never worked
>>between sessions for me, on either IE or FF.
>
> Remember me on this computer works here for eBay, even when all browser
> windows are closed, with both IE6 and Firefox 1.5.0.2
>
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> John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingular_Wireless_FAQ>

You're a lucky one then. This is a VERY well documented problem that has
existed since the beginning of ebay.

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In <[email protected]> on 02 May 2006 18:28:06
GMT, "Thomas T. Veldhouse" <[email protected]> wrote:

>John Navas <[email protected]> wrote:
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>> In <[email protected]> on 02 May 2006 17:43:40
>> GMT, "Thomas T. Veldhouse" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>bernard farquart <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>> E-bay keeps you logged in for 24 hours, just as they
>>>> mean to.
>>>
>>>And apparently, only if you don't close the browser. It has never worked
>>>between sessions for me, on either IE or FF.
>>
>> Remember me on this computer works here for eBay, even when all browser
>> windows are closed, with both IE6 and Firefox 1.5.0.2
>
>The My Ebay link ALWAYS prompts for a password. As does bidding.

Bidding is a different issue. I'm talking access to My eBay.

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> The bigger problem is that it's a very bad idea to type a password into a
> public or shared computer! That's because your password might be captured
by
> malware running on that computer.

The screens on ebay that expect a password use HTTPS encryption.

But yes, it's otherwise a bad idea to use unecrypted services on a public
computer or open WiFi connection. Things like POP mailbox access send your
password as CLEAR TEXT, readable by anyone else on the network using a
simple program like Ethereal. Best to either use a secured VPN back to a
secure network or use encrypted services.

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In <[email protected]> on Wed, 3 May 2006 10:20:52 -0400,
"Bill Kearney" <[email protected]> wrote:

>> The bigger problem is that it's a very bad idea to type a password into a
>> public or shared computer! That's because your password might be captured by
>> malware running on that computer.
>
>The screens on ebay that expect a password use HTTPS encryption.

Which is meaningless if (say) a malware keystroke logger is running on the
computer you're using, capturing your password as you type it *before*
encryption is applied. It's a very real problem with public or shared
computers that you have no control over.

>But yes, it's otherwise a bad idea to use unecrypted services on a public
>computer or open WiFi connection. Things like POP mailbox access send your
>password as CLEAR TEXT, readable by anyone else on the network using a
>simple program like Ethereal. Best to either use a secured VPN back to a
>secure network or use encrypted services.

There is *no* real security with a public or shared computer no matter whether
you use VPN or encrypted services!

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John Navas wrote:
> Remember me on this computer works here for eBay, even when all browser
> windows are closed, with both IE6 and Firefox 1.5.0.2

OT PDQ FYI: 1.5.0.3 is out as of yesterday, just in case you haven't been
auto-updated.

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In <[email protected]> on Thu, 04 May 2006 14:15:55 -0500,
clifto <[email protected]> wrote:

>John Navas wrote:
>> Remember me on this computer works here for eBay, even when all browser
>> windows are closed, with both IE6 and Firefox 1.5.0.2
>
>OT PDQ FYI: 1.5.0.3 is out as of yesterday, just in case you haven't been
>auto-updated.

Already done, but thanks.

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I wrote:
On Cingular's own forum, everytime I come back I have to keep logging
in again even though I check the box to: "Remember my login on this
computer". I do not have this problem on any of the other forums I
frequent that require log-ins. They remember me.

I think I may have found a reason for this. When I am at home
connected using my laptop via my WiFi router/ap, I regularly have the
problem stated above. When I am away from home connected using the
same laptop via Cingular's Laptop Connect EDGE service, I have to
re-login occasionally, but not everytime like I do at home. Perhaps if
your IP address changes, Cingular's forum requires you to login again.
Like I stated before, on other forums I frequent that require log-ins,
I do not have this problem. I believe Cingular is trying to get too
fancy coding their web pages - and for what noble purpose?. This
causes problems that are not normally seen elsewhere.

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In <[email protected]> on 5 May 2006
04:46:16 -0700, "GomJabbar" <[email protected]> wrote:

>I wrote:
>On Cingular's own forum, everytime I come back I have to keep logging
>in again even though I check the box to: "Remember my login on this
>computer". I do not have this problem on any of the other forums I
>frequent that require log-ins. They remember me.
>
>I think I may have found a reason for this. When I am at home
>connected using my laptop via my WiFi router/ap, I regularly have the
>problem stated above. When I am away from home connected using the
>same laptop via Cingular's Laptop Connect EDGE service, I have to
>re-login occasionally, but not everytime like I do at home. Perhaps if
>your IP address changes, Cingular's forum requires you to login again.
>Like I stated before, on other forums I frequent that require log-ins,
>I do not have this problem. I believe Cingular is trying to get too
>fancy coding their web pages - and for what noble purpose?. This
>causes problems that are not normally seen elsewhere.

That makes sense -- limiting saved authentication to a given IP address is a
not uncommon security practice.

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