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  1. #1
    Norm
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    Just upgraded my wife's cell from a TDMA to a GSM phone (v557).

    Question: She receives a text message from an email account. She selects
    "Reply", types message and sends. It is not received by original email
    account.
    Why not?
    Is the procedure followed different with GSM cell versus TDMA phones?
    That procedure had worked with the TDMA phone.

    Also: To send a text message to an email account do you just enter the
    email address when creating a message? Or do you need to select New
    Email?

    Thanks for help with these beginner questions.

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    Please send email to: nwhiii at yahoo dot com



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  2. #2
    John Navas
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    Re: Text Messaging to Email

    [POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]

    In <ZcOdnUKjuYBst__ZRVn-pA@speakeasy.net> on Wed, 10 May 2006 14:03:29 -0400,
    Norm <NOSPAM@yahoo.invalid> wrote:

    >Just upgraded my wife's cell from a TDMA to a GSM phone (v557).
    >
    >Question: She receives a text message from an email account. She selects
    >"Reply", types message and sends. It is not received by original email
    >account.
    >Why not?


    Because sending number (effectively the return address) is the email-to-SMS
    gateway, not the original email address.

    >Is the procedure followed different with GSM cell versus TDMA phones?
    >That procedure had worked with the TDMA phone.


    The gateway may have been implemented differently.

    >Also: To send a text message to an email account do you just enter the
    >email address when creating a message? Or do you need to select New
    >Email?


    A text message (SMS) can be sent to an email address by means of an
    SMS-to-email gateway. The destination email address is embedded at the
    beginning of the message. That can be done automatically or manually,
    depending on the phone. Your V557 can do it automatically. This incurs
    messaging charges.

    If you create a New Email message, that will be sent by the email client in
    your V557, which will only work if the email client is configured properly.
    This incurs data charges.

    See the FAQ below for more information on gateway formats, configuring the
    email client in the phone, and the names of Cingular outgoing SMTP servers.

    --
    Best regards, SEE THE FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS AT
    John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingular_Wireless_FAQ>



  3. #3
    Norm
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    Re: Text Messaging to Email

    In article <iYq8g.46325$Fs1.14640@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>,
    John Navas <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote:

    > [POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]
    >
    > In <ZcOdnUKjuYBst__ZRVn-pA@speakeasy.net> on Wed, 10 May 2006 14:03:29 -0400,
    > Norm <NOSPAM@yahoo.invalid> wrote:
    >
    > >Just upgraded my wife's cell from a TDMA to a GSM phone (v557).
    > >
    > >Question: She receives a text message from an email account. She selects
    > >"Reply", types message and sends. It is not received by original email
    > >account.
    > >Why not?

    >
    > Because sending number (effectively the return address) is the email-to-SMS
    > gateway, not the original email address.


    Got it. No wonder they were never received.
    Thanks for that education.


    >
    > >Is the procedure followed different with GSM cell versus TDMA phones?
    > >That procedure had worked with the TDMA phone.

    >
    > The gateway may have been implemented differently.


    With the TDMA cell, it was just hit reply and send. Got spoiled I guess.
    And here I thought everything was going to be an improvement with GSM.


    >
    > >Also: To send a text message to an email account do you just enter the
    > >email address when creating a message? Or do you need to select New
    > >Email?

    >
    > A text message (SMS) can be sent to an email address by means of an
    > SMS-to-email gateway. The destination email address is embedded at the
    > beginning of the message. That can be done automatically or manually,
    > depending on the phone. Your V557 can do it automatically. This incurs
    > messaging charges.
    >
    > If you create a New Email message, that will be sent by the email client in
    > your V557, which will only work if the email client is configured properly.
    > This incurs data charges.
    >
    > See the FAQ below for more information on gateway formats, configuring the
    > email client in the phone, and the names of Cingular outgoing SMTP servers.


    Not nearly as easy as it was on our TDMA phone. Consequently and
    disappointedly, we probably won't use text messaging from cell to email
    addresses.

    Thanks for the information. Very helpful.

    --
    Please send email to: nwhiii at yahoo dot com



  4. #4
    John Navas
    Guest

    Re: Text Messaging to Email

    [POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]

    In <rcKdnena3aL62__ZRVn-qw@speakeasy.net> on Wed, 10 May 2006 16:00:29 -0400,
    Norm <NOSPAM@yahoo.invalid> wrote:

    >Not nearly as easy as it was on our TDMA phone. Consequently and
    >disappointedly, we probably won't use text messaging from cell to email
    >addresses.


    I think it depends on the phone -- I seem to recall that my old Sony Ericsson
    GSM phones were smart enough to address GSM-standard SMS-email replies
    properly, but my Motorola V551 isn't that smart, and I doubt the
    near-identical V557 is any smarter. So you might have better luck with (say)
    the Sony Ericsson Z520a.

    Regardless, I've done some more research, and now have a solution to your
    problem! In the FAQ below, see:
    * What are messages from 36245?
    * What are messages from numbers like 1010100004?
    The latter is what you need.

    --
    Best regards, SEE THE FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS AT
    John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingular_Wireless_FAQ>



  5. #5
    Norm
    Guest

    Re: Text Messaging to Email

    In article <Ors8g.46553$Fs1.23570@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>,
    John Navas <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote:

    > [POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]
    >
    > In <rcKdnena3aL62__ZRVn-qw@speakeasy.net> on Wed, 10 May 2006 16:00:29 -0400,
    > Norm <NOSPAM@yahoo.invalid> wrote:
    >
    > >Not nearly as easy as it was on our TDMA phone. Consequently and
    > >disappointedly, we probably won't use text messaging from cell to email
    > >addresses.

    >
    > I think it depends on the phone -- I seem to recall that my old Sony Ericsson
    > GSM phones were smart enough to address GSM-standard SMS-email replies
    > properly, but my Motorola V551 isn't that smart, and I doubt the
    > near-identical V557 is any smarter. So you might have better luck with (say)
    > the Sony Ericsson Z520a.
    >


    Got it. Thanks.
    Seems like a step back from our TDMA network/phones but maybe it has
    more to do with ATT TDMA network vs Cingular GSM. But such a guess on my
    part is far past my understanding of cell networks.


    > Regardless, I've done some more research, and now have a solution to your
    > problem! In the FAQ below, see:
    > * What are messages from 36245?
    > * What are messages from numbers like 1010100004?
    > The latter is what you need.


    I'll go on a search. Thanks for the lead.
    If it isn't easy, I know at least one person in the family who won't be
    txt messaging from cell to email.

    Thanks.

    --
    Please send email to: nwhiii at yahoo dot com



  6. #6
    John Navas
    Guest

    Re: Text Messaging to Email

    [POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]

    In <Q9SdnSPUJvpyyP_ZnZ2dnUVZ_uqdnZ2d@speakeasy.net> on Wed, 10 May 2006
    17:06:55 -0400, Norm <NOSPAM@yahoo.invalid> wrote:

    >In article <Ors8g.46553$Fs1.23570@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>,
    > John Navas <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote:


    >> I think it depends on the phone -- I seem to recall that my old Sony Ericsson
    >> GSM phones were smart enough to address GSM-standard SMS-email replies
    >> properly, but my Motorola V551 isn't that smart, and I doubt the
    >> near-identical V557 is any smarter. So you might have better luck with (say)
    >> the Sony Ericsson Z520a.

    >
    >Got it. Thanks.
    >Seems like a step back from our TDMA network/phones but maybe it has
    >more to do with ATT TDMA network vs Cingular GSM. But such a guess on my
    >part is far past my understanding of cell networks.


    Sony Ericsson phones I mentioned are GSM, not TDMA.

    >> Regardless, I've done some more research, and now have a solution to your
    >> problem! In the FAQ below, see:
    >> * What are messages from 36245?
    >> * What are messages from numbers like 1010100004?
    >> The latter is what you need.

    >
    >I'll go on a search. Thanks for the lead.
    >If it isn't easy, I know at least one person in the family who won't be
    >txt messaging from cell to email.


    It is very easy. The key is addressing messages to the MEdia email-to-SMS
    gateway (NUMBER@CingularME.com), not the GSM-standard email-to-SMS gateway
    (NUMBER@Mobile.MyCingular.com).

    --
    Best regards, SEE THE FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS AT
    John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingular_Wireless_FAQ>



  7. #7
    Jud Hardcastle
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    Re: Text Messaging to Email

    In article <Ors8g.46553$Fs1.23570@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>,
    spamfilter0@navasgroup.com says...
    >
    > Regardless, I've done some more research, and now have a solution to your
    > problem! In the FAQ below, see:
    > * What are messages from 36245?
    > * What are messages from numbers like 1010100004?
    > The latter is what you need.


    Nice find John.

    Now how many people have my number@mobile.mycingular.com address :-)

    By the way I've NEVER had a phone, TDMA or GSM, that was smart enough to
    handle the 36245 addressing thing--I've always had to massage the return
    address. The cingularme method is NICE--oh I said that.
    --
    Jud
    Dallas TX USA



  8. #8
    Norm
    Guest

    Re: Text Messaging to Email

    In article <XKs8g.46602$Fs1.42717@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>,
    John Navas <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote:

    > >I'll go on a search. Thanks for the lead.
    > >If it isn't easy, I know at least one person in the family who won't be
    > >txt messaging from cell to email.

    >
    > It is very easy. The key is addressing messages to the MEdia email-to-SMS
    > gateway (NUMBER@CingularME.com), not the GSM-standard email-to-SMS gateway
    > (NUMBER@Mobile.MyCingular.com).


    Well I tried the FAQ method and no luck.

    I've sent 2 emails to our v557 and one to our v551 and then replied.

    By that link, if one receives a text message from "1010100004" or the
    like you can reply and the reply will be sent to the email address of
    the original sender. At least that is how I read it. But it didn't work.
    O for 3 here.

    And O for 1 on just sending of text message from the cell to an email
    address using the method described in one of the adjacent sections of
    the FAQ.

    Thanks.

    --
    Please send email to: nwhiii at yahoo dot com



  9. #9
    John Navas
    Guest

    Re: Text Messaging to Email

    [POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]

    In <_ZydnW_JxsLZDf_ZnZ2dnUVZ_vGdnZ2d@speakeasy.net> on Wed, 10 May 2006
    21:15:47 -0400, Norm <NOSPAM@yahoo.invalid> wrote:

    >In article <XKs8g.46602$Fs1.42717@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>,
    > John Navas <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote:
    >
    >> >I'll go on a search. Thanks for the lead.
    >> >If it isn't easy, I know at least one person in the family who won't be
    >> >txt messaging from cell to email.

    >>
    >> It is very easy. The key is addressing messages to the MEdia email-to-SMS
    >> gateway (NUMBER@CingularME.com), not the GSM-standard email-to-SMS gateway
    >> (NUMBER@Mobile.MyCingular.com).

    >
    >Well I tried the FAQ method and no luck.


    Which FAQ method?

    >I've sent 2 emails to our v557 and one to our v551 and then replied.


    Addressed how?

    >By that link, if one receives a text message from "1010100004" or the
    >like you can reply and the reply will be sent to the email address of
    >the original sender. At least that is how I read it. But it didn't work.
    >O for 3 here.


    Did they come in with that kind of sending address?

    >And O for 1 on just sending of text message from the cell to an email
    >address using the method described in one of the adjacent sections of
    >the FAQ.


    Which method?

    In the future, please be more specific. It's hard to help you when you are
    vague.

    First try sending SMS to email from the V551: Menu -> Messages -> Create
    Message -> New Text Message -> [enter body text] -> OK -> [One Time Entry] ->
    [enter email address] -> OK -> SEND.

    If that doesn't come through, then there may be something wrong with your
    account or with your phones.
    1. Call Customer Care:
    (a) Ask to have Messaging disabled and then enabled on your account.
    (b) Ask to have "settings pushed to your phone". (Your gateway address might
    be wrong.)
    2. If you haven't already, set up a MEdia Net account.

    Then try again. After you get basic SMS-to-email working, then move on to
    replies.

    --
    Best regards, SEE THE FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS AT
    John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingular_Wireless_FAQ>



  10. #10
    Norm
    Guest

    Re: Text Messaging to Email

    In article <ykx8g.78477$eR6.16440@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>,
    John Navas <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote:

    > [POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]
    >
    > In <_ZydnW_JxsLZDf_ZnZ2dnUVZ_vGdnZ2d@speakeasy.net> on Wed, 10 May 2006
    > 21:15:47 -0400, Norm <NOSPAM@yahoo.invalid> wrote:
    >
    > >In article <XKs8g.46602$Fs1.42717@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>,
    > > John Navas <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote:
    > >
    > >> >I'll go on a search. Thanks for the lead.
    > >> >If it isn't easy, I know at least one person in the family who won't be
    > >> >txt messaging from cell to email.
    > >>
    > >> It is very easy. The key is addressing messages to the MEdia email-to-SMS
    > >> gateway (NUMBER@CingularME.com), not the GSM-standard email-to-SMS gateway
    > >> (NUMBER@Mobile.MyCingular.com).

    > >
    > >Well I tried the FAQ method and no luck.

    >
    > Which FAQ method?


    The one under "1010100004"

    >
    > >I've sent 2 emails to our v557 and one to our v551 and then replied.

    >
    > Addressed how?


    Number@cingularme.com

    and also

    alias@cingularme.com (not sure "alias" is correct term. it is name I
    selected on the cingular site)

    >
    > >By that link, if one receives a text message from "1010100004" or the
    > >like you can reply and the reply will be sent to the email address of
    > >the original sender. At least that is how I read it. But it didn't work.
    > >O for 3 here.

    >
    > Did they come in with that kind of sending address?


    Yes 1010100040 is the from.

    >
    > >And O for 1 on just sending of text message from the cell to an email
    > >address using the method described in one of the adjacent sections of
    > >the FAQ.

    >
    > Which method?


    Creating a txt message, starting message with email address and then a
    space then text and then sending to 121

    >
    > In the future, please be more specific. It's hard to help you when you are
    > vague.
    >
    > First try sending SMS to email from the V551: Menu -> Messages -> Create
    > Message -> New Text Message -> [enter body text] -> OK -> [One Time Entry] ->
    > [enter email address] -> OK -> SEND.


    It comes back with "Invalid Address"

    Other phone not available right now, I'll try with it later.

    >
    > If that doesn't come through, then there may be something wrong with your
    > account or with your phones.
    > 1. Call Customer Care:
    > (a) Ask to have Messaging disabled and then enabled on your account.
    > (b) Ask to have "settings pushed to your phone". (Your gateway address might
    > be wrong.)
    > 2. If you haven't already, set up a MEdia Net account.
    >
    > Then try again. After you get basic SMS-to-email working, then move on to
    > replies.


    --
    Please send email to: nwhiii at yahoo dot com



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