Any new Treos coming to Cingular?

On Fri, 17 Nov 2006 01:33:21 +0000 (UTC), [email protected]
wrote in <[email protected]>:

>John Navas <[email protected]> wrote:
>> "215 peachtree st, atlanta ga"
>
>That gives 10 "Did you mean" entries in maps.google.com.
>If you got the one that you wanted in GMM, it would be coincidence, to the
>exclusion of the other 9.
>
>In gmm, it returns "1-9: more results". you might be able to select which
>of those 9 you want, maybe not. Your location might have been #10, which
>doesn't show up. gmm only lists 10. remove the "st", and it still shows
>1-9, but starts with Ave.

Tested it, and "215 Peachtree St NE, Atlanta, GA 30303" was the #1
result. SW was the #2 result. (Others were fuzzy matches.) Doesn't
seem a problem to me.

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John Navas <[email protected]> wrote:
> Tested it, and "215 Peachtree St NE, Atlanta, GA 30303" was the #1
> result. SW was the #2 result. (Others were fuzzy matches.) Doesn't
> seem a problem to me.

Convenient, that, presuming that was really the one you wanted, or maybe
you preselected an address that worked well for this test. Sometimes it
doesn't work so well. The GPS generally has a good first chance position.

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On Fri, 17 Nov 2006 17:14:29 +0000 (UTC), [email protected]
wrote in <[email protected]>:

>John Navas <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Tested it, and "215 Peachtree St NE, Atlanta, GA 30303" was the #1
>> result. SW was the #2 result. (Others were fuzzy matches.) Doesn't
>> seem a problem to me.
>
>Convenient, that, presuming that was really the one you wanted, or maybe
>you preselected an address that worked well for this test.

That was a randomly chosen address on your worst case street. What more
must I do?

>Sometimes it
>doesn't work so well.

Examples?

>The GPS generally has a good first chance position.

Once it has gotten a clear view of the sky and acquired satellites,
which typically takes minutes from a cold start. Then there's the issue
of keying in and finding the destination address, a real pain on my
Magellan handheld. Not to mention no local search or contacts.

GMM on my V551 is way faster, usable, and convenient, for me at least.
"To each his own."

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It is alleged that John Navas claimed:

> >The GPS generally has a good first chance position.
>
> Once it has gotten a clear view of the sky and acquired satellites,
> which typically takes minutes from a cold start. Then there's the issue

Newer sets can go from a cold start to position acquisition in much
less time. Some don't even need "a clear view of the sky" either,
anymore, their antennas can be tucked out of sight, so long as there
isn't too much metal between it and the sky.

IOW, they should now work from within pockets or glove boxes.

> GMM on my V551 is way faster, usable, and convenient, for me at least.
> "To each his own."

True.

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John perhaps you (or anyone else) can help. I just downloaded Google Maps
to the memory card in my Treo 650. When I try & run it I get an error
message "The application cannot be launched because of a system error".
Might it have to be run from the phone rather than a card? I realize this
is not a software help group but I am hoping someone may be able to help
none the less.

Thanks in advance... Fred

"John Navas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 16 Nov 2006 13:58:17 -0700, Todd Allcock
> <[email protected]> wrote in
> <[email protected]>:
>
>>At 16 Nov 2006 19:03:36 +0000 John Navas wrote:
>>
>>> >But it's not GPS enabled. At least, not on the Treo.
>>>
>>> [shrug] I've never had a problem figuring out where I am.
>>
>>One of the major benefits of a GPS Nav system is getting you somewhere
>>when you're lost, or in a strange city (for example, good luck entering
>>"Peachtree" as the "starting from" street in Atlanta!).
>
> Addresses like:
> "215 peachtree st, atlanta ga"
> and
> "peachtree st and ellis, atlanta, ga"
> actually work fine in GMM -- just a matter of reading street signs.
>
>>A current GPS
>>position saves you from having to enter the "from" location when querying
>>directions!
>
> True, but it actually takes me less time to punch my location into my
> cell phone than it does to fire up my GPS and wait for it to acquire
> satellites and fix my position.
>
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It is alleged that Fred claimed:

> John perhaps you (or anyone else) can help. I just downloaded Google Maps
> to the memory card in my Treo 650. When I try & run it I get an error
> message "The application cannot be launched because of a system error".
> Might it have to be run from the phone rather than a card? I realize this
> is not a software help group but I am hoping someone may be able to help
> none the less.

Runs from the card fine for me. At least, it did the last time I used
it a couple weeks ago.

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17, 2002

John Navas <[email protected]> wrote:
> Once it has gotten a clear view of the sky and acquired satellites,
> which typically takes minutes from a cold start. Then there's the issue
> of keying in and finding the destination address, a real pain on my
> Magellan handheld. Not to mention no local search or contacts.

My Garmin GPSMap 60cs often takes 45 seconds for a cold start. I have
local searches that are quite similar to GMM, complete with phone numbers
and full addresses. I can also see all of the listed icons in the
immediate vicinity without doing a search.

> GMM on my V551 is way faster, usable, and convenient, for me at least.
> "To each his own."

I don't think "typing" on either one is a joy, but the v551 is a little
more convenient.

And... I almost always have the v551, not so much the GPS.
But, the v551 is not a substitute for the GPS.

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John Navas <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Fri, 17 Nov 2006 17:14:29 +0000 (UTC), [email protected]

> >Convenient, that, presuming that was really the one you wanted, or maybe
> >you preselected an address that worked well for this test.

> That was a randomly chosen address on your worst case street. What more
> must I do?

Then it's not fair to imply that the #1 item returned was the one that you
wanted. You "accepted" whatever came up first. The whole point was that
"Peachtree" in Atlanta is a tourist's nightmare. Locating one's current
position via GPS would be much more reliable.

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On Sat, 18 Nov 2006 08:07:16 +0000 (UTC), [email protected]
wrote in <[email protected]>:

>John Navas <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On Fri, 17 Nov 2006 17:14:29 +0000 (UTC), [email protected]
>
>> >Convenient, that, presuming that was really the one you wanted, or maybe
>> >you preselected an address that worked well for this test.
>
>> That was a randomly chosen address on your worst case street. What more
>> must I do?
>
>Then it's not fair to imply that the #1 item returned was the one that you
>wanted. You "accepted" whatever came up first.

Kindly don't put words in my mouth. I said the first two results
included the one I wanted, as they did. And it would have been the
first result had I been a bit more specific.

>The whole point was that
>"Peachtree" in Atlanta is a tourist's nightmare.

Seems pretty simple to me to read a street sign and enter it into GMM.
But as always, YMMV.

>Locating one's current
>position via GPS would be much more reliable.

I personally don't think so, especially when the other advantages of GMM
are taken into consideration. In addition to the advantages I've
already cited (including real-time traffic), I've found satellite view
to be very useful on occasion. But as always, YMMV. My only real
objection to your statements is that you seem to think they are
universal truths, rather than just your personal preference.

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John Navas <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Sat, 18 Nov 2006 08:07:16 +0000 (UTC), [email protected]
> wrote in <[email protected]>:

> >John Navas <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> On Fri, 17 Nov 2006 17:14:29 +0000 (UTC), [email protected]
> >
> >> >Convenient, that, presuming that was really the one you wanted, or maybe
> >> >you preselected an address that worked well for this test.
> >
> >> That was a randomly chosen address on your worst case street. What more
> >> must I do?
> >
> >Then it's not fair to imply that the #1 item returned was the one that you
> >wanted. You "accepted" whatever came up first.

> Kindly don't put words in my mouth. I said the first two results
> included the one I wanted, as they did. And it would have been the
> first result had I been a bit more specific.

I misunderstand your use of "randomly chosen", and "the one I wanted".

> My only real objection to your statements is that you seem to think they
> are universal truths, rather than just your personal preference.

I accede that my preference differs from yours.

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