Apple iPhone to be Cingular exclusive

[email protected] wrote:
> On Tue, 09 Jan 2007 15:38:34 -0800, SMS <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> P.Schuman wrote:
>>>> Keynote is over, Apple.com has been updated:
>>>> http://www.apple.com/iphone/
>>>>
>>> It's listed as a GSM device,
>>> so probably only for Cingular for widest customer base.
>> The strangest thing is that it's not 3G. It's only EDGE.
>
>
> Ummm.. It's also WiFi 802.11c and g

Yes, but why wouldn't they include 3G so that it can use Cingular's
HSDPA networks. EDGE is too slow. The original reports on the iPhone
said that there would be two versions, a lower cost EDGE version, and a
higher cost 3G version. Maybe the 3G version is the follow-on product,
but spending $600 for a phone without 3G is ludicrous.

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In article <[email protected]>,
SMS <[email protected]> wrote:

> [email protected] wrote:
> > On Tue, 09 Jan 2007 15:38:34 -0800, SMS <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> P.Schuman wrote:
> >>>> Keynote is over, Apple.com has been updated:
> >>>> http://www.apple.com/iphone/
> >>>>
> >>> It's listed as a GSM device,
> >>> so probably only for Cingular for widest customer base.
> >> The strangest thing is that it's not 3G. It's only EDGE.
> >
> >
> > Ummm.. It's also WiFi 802.11c and g
>
> Yes, but why wouldn't they include 3G so that it can use Cingular's
> HSDPA networks. EDGE is too slow. The original reports on the iPhone
> said that there would be two versions, a lower cost EDGE version, and a
> higher cost 3G version. Maybe the 3G version is the follow-on product,
> but spending $600 for a phone without 3G is ludicrous.

During the presentation it was mentioned that there will be 3G support
though no timetable was given. Not due until june, a lot could change
between now and then.

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> On Tue, 09 Jan 2007 15:38:34 -0800, SMS <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> >P.Schuman wrote:
> >>> Keynote is over, Apple.com has been updated:
> >>> http://www.apple.com/iphone/
> >>>
> >> It's listed as a GSM device,
> >> so probably only for Cingular for widest customer base.
> >
> >The strangest thing is that it's not 3G. It's only EDGE.
>
>
> Ummm.. It's also WiFi 802.11c and g

<[email protected]> wrote in message > >
> >The strangest thing is that it's not 3G. It's only EDGE.
>
yeah - that's what originally clued me into it being on Cingular.

In article <[email protected]>,
ru2b12 <[email protected]> wrote:

> In article <[email protected]>,
> SMS <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > [email protected] wrote:
> > > On Tue, 09 Jan 2007 15:38:34 -0800, SMS <[email protected]>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> P.Schuman wrote:
> > >>>> Keynote is over, Apple.com has been updated:
> > >>>> http://www.apple.com/iphone/
> > >>>>
> > >>> It's listed as a GSM device,
> > >>> so probably only for Cingular for widest customer base.
> > >> The strangest thing is that it's not 3G. It's only EDGE.
> > >
> > >
> > > Ummm.. It's also WiFi 802.11c and g
> >
> > Yes, but why wouldn't they include 3G so that it can use Cingular's
> > HSDPA networks. EDGE is too slow. The original reports on the iPhone
> > said that there would be two versions, a lower cost EDGE version, and a
> > higher cost 3G version. Maybe the 3G version is the follow-on product,
> > but spending $600 for a phone without 3G is ludicrous.
>
> During the presentation it was mentioned that there will be 3G support
> though no timetable was given. Not due until june, a lot could change
> between now and then.

I think waiting a few months to same how this all sorts out is what's in
order anyway. Thankfully (I guess) my Cingular contract prevents me from
doing any upgrading for a few months.

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On 2007-01-10, SMS <[email protected]> wrote:
> [email protected] wrote:
>> On Tue, 09 Jan 2007 15:38:34 -0800, SMS <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> P.Schuman wrote:
>>>>> Keynote is over, Apple.com has been updated:
>>>>> http://www.apple.com/iphone/
>>>>>
>>>> It's listed as a GSM device,
>>>> so probably only for Cingular for widest customer base.
>>> The strangest thing is that it's not 3G. It's only EDGE.
>>
>>
>> Ummm.. It's also WiFi 802.11c and g
>
> Yes, but why wouldn't they include 3G so that it can use Cingular's
> HSDPA networks. EDGE is too slow. The original reports on the iPhone
> said that there would be two versions, a lower cost EDGE version, and a
> higher cost 3G version. Maybe the 3G version is the follow-on product,
> but spending $600 for a phone without 3G is ludicrous.

They can sell the current phone in Europe too; all the features they
have work there as well. 3G support on the phone is valueless in Europe,
however, unless the phone also supports 2100 MHz, and a 5-band phone is a
problem no manufacturer has tackled yet.

Maybe they're leaving that for their next trick. I can't imagine this
phone will remain at $600 forever (the first RAZR I saw, in Hong Kong,
well before Cingular began to sell them, was US$1000).

Dennis Ferguson

[email protected] wrote:

> > HELL of a device. I want one! But I don't like being locked into
> > a carrier. I HATE exclusives.

There's always unlocking.

> You're only locked into Cingular if you want a iPhone.
>
> Wait 5 years for the Zune 3, and maybe it'll be close.

And, in either case, be locked into a proprietary music file format.
Interesting that people who are unwilling to be locked into a cell
carrier, but see nothing wrong with buying music hardware (including
the iPhone) that locks the user into buying music from one source. Am
I missing something, here? :-)

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Bill K

[email protected] wrote in
news[email protected]:

> and tell me what PDA function you think is missing.
>

I see it says it also does wifi. It will be interesting to see how
Cingular is going to hobble that up to force you to use their $network$.

SMS <[email protected]> wrote in news:45a43bd3$0$68974
[email protected]:

> Yes, but why wouldn't they include 3G so that it can use Cingular's
> HSDPA networks. EDGE is too slow. The original reports on the iPhone
> said that there would be two versions, a lower cost EDGE version, and a
> higher cost 3G version. Maybe the 3G version is the follow-on product,
> but spending $600 for a phone without 3G is ludicrous.
>
>

Spending $600 on ANYTHING that won't play an MP3 is really stupid.....

I think another interesting side news bit -
is how much did it cost Apple to "get" the iPhone name from Cisco ?

No question it is an awesome phone. Just another revolutionary step by
Apple. A big issue however, is the tie in with Cingular. That
association will prove to be a noose around iPhone's neck.

Cingular is old-school in all aspects, right down to their crappy
customer service and constant "take it or leave it" attitude toward
customers.

Larry wrote:
> Spending $600 on ANYTHING that won't play an MP3 is really stupid.....

are you sure the iPhone can't play mp3s? All the other iPods can play
mp3s, so I don't see why the iPhone wouldn't. I think only the first
generation iPods couldn't play mp3s.

In article <[email protected]>, Larry
<[email protected]> wrote:

> Spending $600 on ANYTHING that won't play an MP3 is really stupid.....

It's also an iPod, stupid.

On Tue, 09 Jan 2007 17:05:17 -0800, SMS <[email protected]>
wrote:

>[email protected] wrote:
>> On Tue, 09 Jan 2007 15:38:34 -0800, SMS <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> P.Schuman wrote:
>>>>> Keynote is over, Apple.com has been updated:
>>>>> http://www.apple.com/iphone/
>>>>>
>>>> It's listed as a GSM device,
>>>> so probably only for Cingular for widest customer base.
>>> The strangest thing is that it's not 3G. It's only EDGE.
>>
>>
>> Ummm.. It's also WiFi 802.11c and g
>
>Yes, but why wouldn't they include 3G so that it can use Cingular's
>HSDPA networks. EDGE is too slow. The original reports on the iPhone
>said that there would be two versions, a lower cost EDGE version, and a
>higher cost 3G version. Maybe the 3G version is the follow-on product,
>but spending $600 for a phone without 3G is ludicrous.

Its not just a phone, its all of a Blackberry, an iPod, a PDA, a
phone, and a true html browser that fits in your pocket at 5 ounces..
Name another phone that dioes Google Maps.

They are hints and rumors that 3G and GPS are
on the way, whether that can be done by firmware upgrade or next years
model isn't clear yet.

On 10 Jan 2007 03:20:09 GMT, Sven Golly <[email protected]>
wrote:

>
>"P.Schuman" <[email protected]> wrote in news:%bToh.57951
>[email protected]:
>
>>> Keynote is over, Apple.com has been updated:
>>> http://www.apple.com/iphone/
>>>
>> It's listed as a GSM device,
>> so probably only for Cingular for widest customer base.
>
>I'll be interested to see how that touch screen holds up in actual real
>world customer use. Cold. Damp. Heat. Hand lotion. Fingernails. Purses.
>Mink lined gloveboxes. Old pizza cartons.


Apple has surely learned their lesson after the first generation iPod
Nano. And Belkin and others will have screen protectors by Day One of
Sales.