Apple iPhone to be Cingular exclusive

"Bucky" <[email protected]> wrote in news:1168421277.372151.207030
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> are you sure the iPhone can't play mp3s? All the other iPods can play
> mp3s, so I don't see why the iPhone wouldn't. I think only the first
> generation iPods couldn't play mp3s.
>
>
>

Doesn't the loader software for the ipod convert MP3s to Ipoditis? Isn't
that why you can't just load it on there with Win Explorer and punch play?

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Bill Kraski wrote:
> [email protected] wrote:
>
>>> HELL of a device. I want one! But I don't like being locked into
>>> a carrier. I HATE exclusives.
>
> There's always unlocking.
>
>> You're only locked into Cingular if you want a iPhone.
>>
>> Wait 5 years for the Zune 3, and maybe it'll be close.
>
> And, in either case, be locked into a proprietary music file format.
> Interesting that people who are unwilling to be locked into a cell
> carrier, but see nothing wrong with buying music hardware (including
> the iPhone) that locks the user into buying music from one source. Am
> I missing something, here? :-)
>
CDs ? (We haven't bought from the iTunes store... yet.)

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Per [email protected]:
>
>Apple has surely learned their lesson after the first generation iPod
>Nano. And Belkin and others will have screen protectors by Day One of
>Sales.

I wonder.... Certainly my 60-gig iPod's screen is quite badly scratched up after
less than a year's use - and it's never been in a pocket, always in the belt
carrier or a charging stand.
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PeteCresswell

On Wed, 10 Jan 2007 09:24:33 -0500, "(PeteCresswell)" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Per [email protected]:
>>
>>Apple has surely learned their lesson after the first generation iPod
>>Nano. And Belkin and others will have screen protectors by Day One of
>>Sales.
>
>I wonder.... Certainly my 60-gig iPod's screen is quite badly scratched up after
>less than a year's use - and it's never been in a pocket, always in the belt
>carrier or a charging stand.


Should have spent a few bucks for a screen protector. I use them on my
cell phones, and they then end up looking like new after 2 years when
I sell them on eBay.

<[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 09 Jan 2007 17:05:17 -0800, SMS <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> Its not just a phone, its all of a Blackberry, an iPod, a PDA, a
> phone, and a true html browser that fits in your pocket at 5 ounces..
> Name another phone that dioes Google Maps.
>

My Blackberry Pearl does Google Maps, what's the big deal?

> Doesn't the loader software for the ipod convert MP3s to Ipoditis? Isn't
> that why you can't just load it on there with Win Explorer and punch play?

No.

- WMA files must be converted to AAC
- You have the OPTION of downsampling music to 128bps AAC, but this is to
enable you to fit more songs

You can definitely play native MP3s on all current iPods.

> Name another phone that does Google Maps.

Treo 700p

At 10 Jan 2007 00:37:54 -0500 Larry wrote:

> I see it says it also does wifi. It will be interesting to see how
> Cingular is going to hobble that up to force you to use their $network$.
>

They won't. Despite your constant cell-phone provider bad-mouthing,
Cingular (unlike Verizon) doesn't generally cripple phones in any
significant way- their wi-fi equipped Windows Mobile smartphones aren't
crippled at all, and I've found even their low-end phones I've used to
have most configuration options in them.

Now, like virtually every carrier, they do tend to ADD a bit of fluff and
name-branding (i.e. the web-browser menu function might be renamed
"MEDia" to match the Cingular marketing term for the function) and a low-
end Nokia I bought from them and unlocked had a ringtone/wallpaper-buying
option on the main top-level menu while more useful features were several
levels deeper.

But no, the iPhone will not be crippled in any way, and I predict it will
do good things for my (very small amount of) AT&T stock... ;-)



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[email protected] wrote:
\
> They are hints and rumors that 3G and GPS are
> on the way, whether that can be done by firmware upgrade or next years
> model isn't clear yet.

Hopefully this is the case. I'd advise waiting for the 3G version, even
if it ends up being more expensive, but the price points of this device
are not going to hold up at $500 and $600.

ZDNet wrote:

"Although we're pleased Apple made it a quad-band (GSM
850/900/1800/1900) world phone, we're disappointed the iPhone's data
support tops out at 2.5G EDGE networks. Considering the
multimedia-friendly feature set, the omission of any 3G compatibility is
a bit bizarre, particularly since Cingular now offers UMTS and HSDPA."

If you look at the device as an OSx web pad/iPod/PDA, the price isn't
excessive, it's when you think of it as a phone on one of the worst
carriers in the U.S., that it seems expensive.

P.Schuman wrote:
>> Keynote is over, Apple.com has been updated:
>> http://www.apple.com/iphone/
>>
> It's listed as a GSM device,
> so probably only for Cingular for widest customer base.

I was in BJ's, next to Apple's campus in Cupertino, about six months ago
and I overheard some Apple people talking about the iPhone, and Verizon.
They had pitched it to Verizon, but Verizon made some unacceptable demands:

1. Bluetooth needed to be disabled, except for the headset.
2. Music could only be downloaded from Verizon's music service
3. WiFi would be disabled anytime the device detected Verizon's network
4. The OS would have to be Windows Embedded
5. Every photo taken would have to be immediately transferred across
Verizon's network
6. No roaming onto any non-Verizon CDMA network, even at extra cost

In article <[email protected]>,
"Bill Marriott" <[email protected]> wrote:

> > Name another phone that does Google Maps.
>
> Treo 700p

I've got them on my 650. Realtime traffic, too.

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In article <[email protected]>,
Larry <[email protected]> wrote:

> SMS <[email protected]> wrote in news:45a43bd3$0$68974
> [email protected]:
>
> > Yes, but why wouldn't they include 3G so that it can use Cingular's
> > HSDPA networks. EDGE is too slow. The original reports on the iPhone
> > said that there would be two versions, a lower cost EDGE version, and a
> > higher cost 3G version. Maybe the 3G version is the follow-on product,
> > but spending $600 for a phone without 3G is ludicrous.
> >
> >
>
> Spending $600 on ANYTHING that won't play an MP3 is really stupid.....

Unless you don't care about mp3. I don't.

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Kurt wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>,
> Larry <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> SMS <[email protected]> wrote in news:45a43bd3$0$68974
>> [email protected]:
>>
>>> Yes, but why wouldn't they include 3G so that it can use Cingular's
>>> HSDPA networks. EDGE is too slow. The original reports on the iPhone
>>> said that there would be two versions, a lower cost EDGE version, and a
>>> higher cost 3G version. Maybe the 3G version is the follow-on product,
>>> but spending $600 for a phone without 3G is ludicrous.
>>>
>>>
>> Spending $600 on ANYTHING that won't play an MP3 is really stupid.....
>
> Unless you don't care about mp3. I don't.

And of course it actually will play MP3s anyway.

On Wed, 10 Jan 2007 07:17:35 -0800, SMS <[email protected]>
wrote:

>[email protected] wrote:
>\
>> They are hints and rumors that 3G and GPS are
>> on the way, whether that can be done by firmware upgrade or next years
>> model isn't clear yet.
>
>Hopefully this is the case. I'd advise waiting for the 3G version, even
>if it ends up being more expensive, but the price points of this device
>are not going to hold up at $500 and $600.
>
>ZDNet wrote:
>
>"Although we're pleased Apple made it a quad-band (GSM
>850/900/1800/1900) world phone, we're disappointed the iPhone's data
>support tops out at 2.5G EDGE networks. Considering the
>multimedia-friendly feature set, the omission of any 3G compatibility is
>a bit bizarre, particularly since Cingular now offers UMTS and HSDPA."
>
>If you look at the device as an OSx web pad/iPod/PDA, the price isn't
>excessive, it's when you think of it as a phone on one of the worst
>carriers in the U.S., that it seems expensive.


But thats not true. The data support includes WiFi 802.11g

On Wed, 10 Jan 2007 08:36:21 -0800, SMS <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Kurt wrote:
>> In article <[email protected]>,
>> Larry <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> SMS <[email protected]> wrote in news:45a43bd3$0$68974
>>> [email protected]:
>>>
>>>> Yes, but why wouldn't they include 3G so that it can use Cingular's
>>>> HSDPA networks. EDGE is too slow. The original reports on the iPhone
>>>> said that there would be two versions, a lower cost EDGE version, and a
>>>> higher cost 3G version. Maybe the 3G version is the follow-on product,
>>>> but spending $600 for a phone without 3G is ludicrous.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Spending $600 on ANYTHING that won't play an MP3 is really stupid.....
>>
>> Unless you don't care about mp3. I don't.
>
>And of course it actually will play MP3s anyway.


The prototype doesn't do 3G, lets see what the released version does.
It does do 802.11g WiFi; far faster than 3G