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Old 03-19-2007, 02:52 PM   #1
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Does cingular offer an unlimited texting plan?
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Old 03-22-2007, 11:19 PM   #2
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Re: Unlimited texting


On Tue, 20 Mar 2007 16:05:17 -0400, "Andy S"
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>>"nikkir" <nikkir.44ee00@cellbanter.com> wrote in message
>>news:nikkir.44ee00@cellbanter.com...
>>
>> Does cingular offer an unlimited texting plan?
>> http://www.rfshieldbox.com/


>In a way. For $5 on top of what you pay for a text plan, you can add
>unlimited Mobile to Mobile as long as the parties are on cingular. Other
>than that, no


Mobile to Mobile is voice calling, not texting.

Cingular currently has an unlimited texting offer for $10/month.

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Old 03-23-2007, 12:14 AM   #3
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Re: Unlimited texting


On Thu, 22 Mar 2007 23:09:38 -0700, Kevin Weaver
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>John Navas wrote:
>> On Tue, 20 Mar 2007 16:05:17 -0400, "Andy S"
>> <adsisson@NOSPAMrochester.rr.com> wrote in
>> <46003e8d$0$9008$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>:
>>
>>>> "nikkir" <nikkir.44ee00@cellbanter.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:nikkir.44ee00@cellbanter.com...
>>>>
>>>> Does cingular offer an unlimited texting plan?
>>>> http://www.rfshieldbox.com/

>>
>>> In a way. For $5 on top of what you pay for a text plan, you can add
>>> unlimited Mobile to Mobile as long as the parties are on cingular. Other
>>> than that, no

>>
>> Mobile to Mobile is voice calling, not texting.
>>
>> Cingular currently has an unlimited texting offer for $10/month.

>
>Which is a rip off.


Then don't pay it.

>Why spend 10.00 a month when you can talk for free.


Because text works better than voice for some things.

>It cost's them less to have you use texting then voice.


Irrelevant.

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Old 03-23-2007, 05:29 AM   #4
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Re: Unlimited texting



"John Navas" <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 20 Mar 2007 16:05:17 -0400, "Andy S"
> <adsisson@NOSPAMrochester.rr.com> wrote in
> <46003e8d$0$9008$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>:
>
>>>"nikkir" <nikkir.44ee00@cellbanter.com> wrote in message
>>>news:nikkir.44ee00@cellbanter.com...
>>>
>>> Does cingular offer an unlimited texting plan?
>>> http://www.rfshieldbox.com/

>
>>In a way. For $5 on top of what you pay for a text plan, you can add
>>unlimited Mobile to Mobile as long as the parties are on cingular. Other
>>than that, no

>
> Mobile to Mobile is voice calling, not texting.
>
> Cingular currently has an unlimited texting offer for $10/month.


You may want to check and revise your comment. Here in my area the services
have been revised showing an extra $5 charge if you wish to include
unlimited "mobile to mobile" messaging. This includes SMS and MMS.


JAW
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Old 03-23-2007, 07:29 AM   #5
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Re: Unlimited texting


Kevin Weaver wrote:

> Which is a rip off. Why spend 10.00 a month when you can talk for free.
> It cost's them less to have you use texting then voice.


In the U.S., the cost of voice calls is much less, and the carriers view
texting solely as a way to increase ARPU, and as a result texting is not
widely used because it's so expensive compared with making a call. In
Europe and Asia, texting is also popular because most people commute by
public transit, and it's considered rude to be making a voice call on
public transit. In the U.S., most people commute by car and texting is
difficult while driving.

In Europe and Asia, texting is very inexpensive. The carriers encourage
it because it reduces the load on the network.





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Old 03-23-2007, 08:54 AM   #6
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On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 06:29:24 -0700, SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
wrote in <4603d641$0$27199$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>:

>[Copied to alt.cellular.attws. Please post all alt.cellular.cingular
>posts to alt.cellular.attws as well. The Cingular name is going away,
>and alt.cellular.attws is the proper venue for posts regarding AT&T's
>Wireless Service.]


Please stop polluting alt.cellular.attws by cross-posting these
incomplete thread fragments.

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Old 03-23-2007, 09:07 AM   #7
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On Thu, 22 Mar 2007 23:41:36 -0700, Kevin Weaver
<kevinkeithweaver@sbcglobal.net> wrote in
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>>>> Mobile to Mobile is voice calling, not texting.
>>>>
>>>> Cingular currently has an unlimited texting offer for $10/month.
>>>>
>>> Which is a rip off.

>>
>> Then don't pay it.
>>

>I Don't.


>>> Why spend 10.00 a month when you can talk for free.

>>
>> Because text works better than voice for some things.
>>
>>> It cost's them less to have you use texting then voice.

>>
>> Irrelevant.
>>

>Again, I think it's a ripoff. Why pay when you can talk for free. Ohh,
>It's the cool thing to do.


Messaging is actually the more practical thing to do in many cases, such
as communicating in a place where you can't talk on the phone (e.g.,
movie theater, business conference), when text is of value to the
recipient (e.g., URL), can be used for services (e.g., Google searches),
broadcast to multiple recipients, to save time (especially with a
template), when you don't want to get into a conversation with the other
person, can be reviewed and edited before sending, can be stored
indefinitely or forwarded, when email is desired (i.e., SMS-to-email
gateway), hearing-impaired locations and/or callers, on and on.

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Old 03-23-2007, 09:19 AM   #8
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On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 06:29:38 -0500, "JAW" <jawolife@nospamhotmail.com>
wrote in <eu0dn701rk9@enews5.newsguy.com>:

>"John Navas" <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote in message
>news:j1o60350f8k6f31dhq87lfvd8br4dvp0ui@4ax.com.. .
>> On Tue, 20 Mar 2007 16:05:17 -0400, "Andy S"
>> <adsisson@NOSPAMrochester.rr.com> wrote in
>> <46003e8d$0$9008$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>:
>>
>>>>"nikkir" <nikkir.44ee00@cellbanter.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:nikkir.44ee00@cellbanter.com...
>>>>
>>>> Does cingular offer an unlimited texting plan?
>>>> http://www.rfshieldbox.com/

>>
>>>In a way. For $5 on top of what you pay for a text plan, you can add
>>>unlimited Mobile to Mobile as long as the parties are on cingular. Other
>>>than that, no

>>
>> Mobile to Mobile is voice calling, not texting.
>>
>> Cingular currently has an unlimited texting offer for $10/month.

>
>You may want to check and revise your comment. Here in my area the services
>have been revised showing an extra $5 charge if you wish to include
>unlimited "mobile to mobile" messaging. This includes SMS and MMS.


Depends on the area and/or your rate plan. What I wrote was correct,
notwithstanding other offers. See
<http://tinypic.com/fullsize.php?pic=33erdk4>, captured this morning.

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Old 03-23-2007, 09:27 AM   #9
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Re: Unlimited texting


At 23 Mar 2007 05:19:30 +0000 John Navas wrote:

> Mobile to Mobile is voice calling, not texting.


As others, who undoubtedly jump at the chance to correct you, probably
already pointed out, Cingular recently introduced a $5 add-on unlimited
in-network texting package, but I believe it can only be added on to
another messaging or MEdia plan.

> Cingular currently has an unlimited texting offer for $10/month.


Not that I'm aware of. They DO have a messaging "starter pack" for $10
which gives you a few hundred messages plus unlimited mobile-to-mobile
messages.

Unless of course, you're considering "unlimited to other Cingular
customers" means "unlimited," but you're likely to get an argument there...



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Old 03-23-2007, 09:55 AM   #10
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On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 09:27:29 -0600, Todd Allcock
<elecconnec@AmericaOnLine.com> wrote in <eu0rln$ovv$2@aioe.org>:

>At 23 Mar 2007 05:19:30 +0000 John Navas wrote:


>> Cingular currently has an unlimited texting offer for $10/month.

>
>Not that I'm aware of. They DO have a messaging "starter pack" for $10
>which gives you a few hundred messages plus unlimited mobile-to-mobile
>messages.
>
>Unless of course, you're considering "unlimited to other Cingular
>customers" means "unlimited," but you're likely to get an argument there...


See <http://tinypic.com/fullsize.php?pic=33erdk4>, captured this
morning.

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Old 03-23-2007, 02:31 PM   #11
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"John Navas" <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 06:29:38 -0500, "JAW" <jawolife@nospamhotmail.com>
> wrote in <eu0dn701rk9@enews5.newsguy.com>:
>
>>"John Navas" <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote in message
>>news:j1o60350f8k6f31dhq87lfvd8br4dvp0ui@4ax.com. ..
>>> On Tue, 20 Mar 2007 16:05:17 -0400, "Andy S"
>>> <adsisson@NOSPAMrochester.rr.com> wrote in
>>> <46003e8d$0$9008$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>:
>>>
>>>>>"nikkir" <nikkir.44ee00@cellbanter.com> wrote in message
>>>>>news:nikkir.44ee00@cellbanter.com...
>>>>>
>>>>> Does cingular offer an unlimited texting plan?
>>>>> http://www.rfshieldbox.com/
>>>
>>>>In a way. For $5 on top of what you pay for a text plan, you can add
>>>>unlimited Mobile to Mobile as long as the parties are on cingular.
>>>>Other
>>>>than that, no
>>>
>>> Mobile to Mobile is voice calling, not texting.
>>>
>>> Cingular currently has an unlimited texting offer for $10/month.

>>
>>You may want to check and revise your comment. Here in my area the
>>services
>>have been revised showing an extra $5 charge if you wish to include
>>unlimited "mobile to mobile" messaging. This includes SMS and MMS.

>
> Depends on the area and/or your rate plan. What I wrote was correct,
> notwithstanding other offers. See
> <http://tinypic.com/fullsize.php?pic=33erdk4>, captured this morning.
>
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> John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingular_Wireless_FAQ>


Your information is not quite correct, perhaps misleading.

1.. You stated that "Mobile to Mobile is voice calling, not texting." When
in fact, the term can be used in both situations.
2.. You also indicated that Cingular has unlimited text but failed to
mention it was not nationally. Apparently it's only available in certain
markets.
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Old 03-23-2007, 03:31 PM   #12
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On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 15:31:37 -0500, "JAW" <jawolife@nospamhotmail.com>
wrote in <eu1dfe0j4r@enews4.newsguy.com>:

>"John Navas" <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote in message
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>> Depends on the area and/or your rate plan. What I wrote was correct,
>> notwithstanding other offers. See
>> <http://tinypic.com/fullsize.php?pic=33erdk4>, captured this morning.


>Your information is not quite correct, perhaps misleading.


I disagree.

> 1.. You stated that "Mobile to Mobile is voice calling, not texting." When
>in fact, the term can be used in both situations.


Mobile to mobile is commonly taken to be voice calling. It's a
redundant term for messaging.

> 2.. You also indicated that Cingular has unlimited text but failed to
>mention it was not nationally. Apparently it's only available in certain
>markets.


Apparently? Are you guessing, or do you have any actual evidence?

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Old 03-23-2007, 03:56 PM   #13
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"John Navas" <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 15:31:37 -0500, "JAW" <jawolife@nospamhotmail.com>
> wrote in <eu1dfe0j4r@enews4.newsguy.com>:
>
>>"John Navas" <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote in message
>>news:g9r703he2fmeahvv3dfgjf23ir1s8j39bb@4ax.com. ..

>
>>> Depends on the area and/or your rate plan. What I wrote was correct,
>>> notwithstanding other offers. See
>>> <http://tinypic.com/fullsize.php?pic=33erdk4>, captured this morning.

>
>>Your information is not quite correct, perhaps misleading.

>
> I disagree.


Of course you would -
Although your information can be quite helpful at times, you still remain
too arrogant to realize that you can actually be wrong.


>
>> 1.. You stated that "Mobile to Mobile is voice calling, not texting."
>> When
>>in fact, the term can be used in both situations.

>
> Mobile to mobile is commonly taken to be voice calling. It's a
> redundant term for messaging.
>


In a technical sense of actual word definition, mobile to mobile is
redundant as it is put. However, we are making points in a Cingular forum
and therefore their terminology would indicate a "within service provider"
expression. In case you do not understand, simply put would mean Cingular
(ATT) to Cingular (ATT)


>> 2.. You also indicated that Cingular has unlimited text but failed to
>>mention it was not nationally. Apparently it's only available in certain
>>markets.

>
> Apparently? Are you guessing, or do you have any actual evidence?


With all your outstanding knowledge, I would venture to say that you are
smart enough to enter an alternate zip code to see features in a particular
area. As a Cingular (with various other names) customer for over 10 years, I
know that their services and offers change from geographic location to
geographic location. For this reason, my original reply to your post
indicated in "my area". Andy S seems to be in an area offering the same as
mine (South Texas). As for needing evidence, just search Cingular's offers
in different areas. The United States is much larger than the Bay area.



Thanks for all your helpful input (not being sarcastic)

JAW


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Old 03-23-2007, 04:24 PM   #14
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JAW wrote:

> 1.. You stated that "Mobile to Mobile is voice calling, not texting." When
> in fact, the term can be used in both situations.
> 2.. You also indicated that Cingular has unlimited text but failed to
> mention it was not nationally. Apparently it's only available in certain
> markets.


It's unlimited in-network text messaging for $5 more than your regular
text bundle, so it's $10 per month. However in some markets they have
cut that to $5, the same price as 200 text messages without unlimited
in-network. Verizon has no $5 message plan at all.

Comparing the four major carrier's text messaging rates:

In Network MTM Out of Network

ATTWS Sprnt T-Mob VZW ATTWS Sprnt T-Mob VZW
----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- -----
$5 0/Unlim 0 0 x 200 300 400 x
$10 Unlim Unlim 0 Unlim 200 Unlim 1000 500
$15 Unlim Unlim 400 Unlim 1500
$20 Unlim Unlim 1000 5000
$20 0 3000
$25 Unlim 3000


Verizon gets you a lot more messages than AT&T at each price point, but
Verizon lacks a $5 message plan. Sprint has the best deal for unlimited
text messaging, in and out of network, at only $10, while T-Mobile gives
you the most for a $5 upcharge.

I bet that AT&T will soon correct the disparity in their text messaging
rates for the higher number of out-of-network message plans, unless
Verizon decides to raise their own rates.




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Old 03-23-2007, 07:01 PM   #15
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Re: Unlimited texting


At 23 Mar 2007 15:19:16 +0000 John Navas wrote:

> Depends on the area and/or your rate plan. What I wrote was correct,
> notwithstanding other offers. See
> <http://tinypic.com/fullsize.php?pic=33erdk4>, captured this morning.


Again, the screencap you posted clearly states "Unlimited Texting
starting at $9.99 TO OVER 60 MILLION CINGULAR CUSTOMERS"

It's unlimited to other Cingular phones only. It's not
"unlimited texting" anymore than unlimited M2M is "unlimited calling."

AFAIK, Cingular does not currently offer a true unlimited texting plan,
at least according to their website.


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