The iPhone's Top Pros and Cons

Michelle Steiner wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>,
> Pegleg <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On 23 Jun 2007 01:04:59 -0000, [email protected] (Avery) wrote:
>>
>>> http://www.usnews.com/usnews/biztech...oscons_print.h
>>> tm
>>>
>>> The iPhone's Top Pros and Cons
>> Why is this **** here?
>
> Where is "here"?


Well, where *isn't*?


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none wrote:
> this one. and since there are no moving parts, nothing can fail, so sure

Use of flash instead of a disk makes me wonder about speed.
(I can burn a CD faster than I can copy the same ISO to my
flash drive.)

> the glass screen could scratch, but not as bad as plastic cell phones,

If I could afford one, I wouldn't be worried about scratching the glass,
I'd be concerned about the touch-sensitive layer over it.

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Rod Speed wrote:
> Still not as strong as a sphere.

Or even a circle. But a circular touch screen would be
a lot more work for the graphics designers, and who'd
want to put a tennis-ball-shaped phone in a pocket?

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On 6/23/07 11:32 PM, in article [email protected], "Rod
Speed" <[email protected]> wrote:

> none <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Wes Groleau <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Larry wrote:
>>>> the flaws they forgot....like what's gonna happen when its very-thin
>>>> carcass gets flexed by some body pressure, just for instance.
>>>>
>>>> "Flimsy" comes to mind...just looking at it.
>>>
>>> I have no idea how solid its metal case is,
>>> but it doesn't look flimsy to me.
>
>> you need to keep in mind the outer ring is one continuous "arch",
>> the strongest design element you can choose.
>
> No it isnt, a sphere is much stronger.
>
I can see it now: "Is that the SpherePhone® in your pants, or are you just
glad to see me?"

On Jun 24, 2:53 pm, Wes Groleau <[email protected]> wrote:

> Use of flash instead of a disk makes me wonder about speed.
> (I can burn a CD faster than I can copy the same ISO to my
> flash drive.)

Is this on your ****ty iMac with USB 1.1?

> > the glass screen could scratch, but not as bad as plastic cell phones,
>
> If I could afford one, I wouldn't be worried about scratching the glass,
> I'd be concerned about the touch-sensitive layer over it.

I'm a little concerned about people who have no intention of buying
(or are not in a position to buy) an iPhone but yet have concerns over
various aspects of it...

My concern about the iPhone? That the glass does not make it too
heavy or fragile. In any event, I'll be buying one regardless - can't
wait!

In article <[email protected]>,
"MuahMan" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Apple is counting on mindless ****heads like you. LOL There truly is a
> sucker born every day.

Said the piss poor jealous little ****wad.

In article <yJufi.406$w2.352@trnddc01>, Wes Groleau wrote:
> Rod Speed wrote:
>> Still not as strong as a sphere.
>
> Or even a circle. But a circular touch screen would be
> a lot more work for the graphics designers, and who'd
> want to put a tennis-ball-shaped phone in a pocket?
Oh I'm sure someone would be interested in it... A phone that
opens like a clam... looks like a spalding tennis ball...Hmm being
cell phones are now popular as home phones too a tennis player would
love one. a baseball for a baseball player... a mini basketball for a
basketball player.
Kidding aside... cell phone providers need to get "small
(size) is *better* out of their heads! Small size is *NOT* better,
they get lost easier, break easier and are getting to the size of
*ridiculous* to manage or use. I saw a cell phone at a fair a few
years ago about the size of a teeny pocket calculator... NO WAY! am I
going to go for one of those! I forgot now which provider had it. May
have been Verizon... not sure.
Cell phones have replaced the hardwired phone in many
applications, especially at home, at being the main telephone. I don't
have a traditional phone. I only use my cellphone as do most of the
younger people I know. AT&T was smart enough to return to the cell
phone market after they originally sold off AT&T wireless (its a
resurrection from the dead!) But then again.... Ma bell is also being
resurrected from the dead. AT&T may never go back to the bell system
name but you never know... they do have rights to the trademark. That
is another message in its own right.

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"Ura Dippschit" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In article <[email protected]>,
> "MuahMan" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Apple is counting on mindless ****heads like you. LOL There truly is a
>> sucker born every day.
>
> Said the piss poor jealous little ****wad.

Jealous of? Can't any mindless Apple drooling douchebag buy an iPhone?

MuahMan wrote:
>
> "Ura Dippschit" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> In article <[email protected]>,
>> "MuahMan" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Apple is counting on mindless ****heads like you. LOL There truly is a
>>> sucker born every day.
>>
>> Said the piss poor jealous little ****wad.
>
> Jealous of? Can't any mindless Apple drooling douchebag buy an iPhone?

Learn english! fu set

Wes Groleau <[email protected]> wrote:

> none wrote:
> > this one. and since there are no moving parts, nothing can fail, so sure
>
> Use of flash instead of a disk makes me wonder about speed.
> (I can burn a CD faster than I can copy the same ISO to my
> flash drive.)

something is wrong with the format of your flash drive, your usb port or
you simply have a slow flash drive. (cheap) the flash in the iphone is
far faster than a hd.

> > the glass screen could scratch, but not as bad as plastic cell phones,
>
> If I could afford one, I wouldn't be worried about scratching the glass,
> I'd be concerned about the touch-sensitive layer over it.

yeah, some people aren't careful. i fall into the opposite category, my
electronics when i sell them 2-5 years later still look brand new. but
i'm also the kinda guy that never needs to use napkins when i eat

Wes Groleau <[email protected]> wrote:

> Rod Speed wrote:
> > Still not as strong as a sphere.
>
> Or even a circle. But a circular touch screen would be
> a lot more work for the graphics designers, and who'd
> want to put a tennis-ball-shaped phone in a pocket?

looks like innovative ms has already done it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7CvVzBE9aw

On 2007-06-24, MuahMan <[email protected]> wrote:
><[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>> My concern about the iPhone? That the glass does not make it too
>> heavy or fragile. In any event, I'll be buying one regardless - can't
>> wait!
>
> Apple is counting on mindless ****heads like you.

Have you thought about anger management therapy?

> LOL There truly is a sucker born every day.

The way I would put it is that there are millions of people
born every day whose probable destiny is to become an
expert consumer, perfectly adapted to a world based on
the promotion of consumption where only a miniscule
fraction of the things that people consume are things
that they need. The whole economy is based on consumption
not of things that people need but of those that they
desire - and those desires are programmed in to them by
society.

Yes, a lot of people will buy an iPhone because it is cool
and they want to be one of the first people to be seen
with one. Does that make them "mindless ****heads" or
"good consumers" or are those two things effectively
equivalent?

Are the people waiting to get their hands on an iPhone any
different than those waiting in line to watch Ocean's
Twelve, or going to the mall to buy the latest "must have"
trainers?

I don't doubt that the iPhone will be an impressive
piece of technology but that will probably not be the main
driver of sales.

How many people believe that an iPhone will provide enough
real practical benefit in their lives to justify the price
difference between it and the best cheaper option? How many
have no idea but just want one anyway?

Ian

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testing of the iphone -

Thandu is one of about 200 field technicians who have been secretly
testing the iPhone and looking for technical glitches for more than 10
weeks and counting. AT&T routinely tests new devices, but the iPhone has
been different, Thandu says. The technicians have logged more than
10,000 hours on the phone, including more than 5,000 hours of voice
calls and near 5 gigabytes of data usage. Most phones, he says, get
about half that much test time.

AT&T's scrutiny is understandable. The iPhone is shaping up to be the
must-have cellphone of the year, maybe the decade if it follows in
iPod's footsteps. AT&T has exclusive U.S. distribution rights for five
years and hopes to use the device to lure new customers.

To win at that, however, the iPhone must live up to its hype. That's
where Thandu and his crew come into play. "My job is to make sure the
devices we sell meet the high bars we set for them, in terms of
technical requirements and test specifications," he says.

Doing dry runs with the world's most anticipated cellphone has been
challenging. Tests had to be done in places frequented by wireless
Relevant Products/Services users. Under strict orders to keep the phone
under wraps, technicians had to hide or disguise the phone when in
public, Thandu says.

The disguises took many forms: an iPod "sock" was sometimes slipped over
the iPhone. Other times, he says, testers kept the device inside a
newspaper or pants pocket and used a wireless headset.

For the actual testing, technicians frequented all the places where
consumers go: office buildings, subway platforms, stairwells, elevators,
crowded bars, sprawling suburban malls and congested city streets. They
also showed up incognito at Apple and AT&T stores.

To test iPhone's durability, Thandu says, they doused it with water,
dropped it on concrete and bounced it off sidewalks.

Thandu says he took the iPhone with him on long runs, sweating all over
it. "We wanted to test the limits of it."

Techs also did a lot of walking. "Many people don't realize it, but
walking gives you the worst channel conditions," Thandu says. Cell
signals tend to bounce off buildings, causing interference, and
background noise is a constant problem in cities.

Feedback from the field was relayed to Apple, sometimes hourly, Thandu
says. Early on, he says, technicians discovered that the iPhone's audio
was "not loud or clear enough." Apple designers quickly fixed the
problem, he says.

more here:
http://mobilitytoday.com/news/007758...testing_public

On 6/24/07 12:32 PM, in article [email protected],
"Dr zara" <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> In article <[email protected]>,
>> zeez <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>> Remember when we were all going to be running JAVA programs from some
>>>> central (read that metered) server? They've never given up on that
>>>> idea....centralized control.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Blech. They can switch me when hell freezes over.
>>>
>>> The only "Trusted Computer" for me is one that I have complete
>>> control over and know exactly
>>> what is running.
>>
>> I understand the iPhone comes with a piece of foil in the package--and
>> when you first fire up the phone, it tells you how to make a hat out of
>> it.
>
> Almost a waste of money - most of the apple products users already have tin
> foil hats.
>
>
If that post was intended as a joke, you forgot to include the punch line.
Do yourself and everyone else a favor: take a fatal overdose of your
medication. You are a cruelly foolish subhuman and a ludicrous, maliciously
malodorous pedantic peremptory pedagogue.