The iPhone's Top Pros and Cons

On 2007-06-24, Dr zara <[email protected]> wrote:

> Yes, "mindless ****heads" are the best consumers. How do you think apple
> manages to foist off it's ****ty products at such high prices?.. Mactards
> are, "mindless ****heads".

Technical excellence, usability, advanced UI design? Those count too.
If Macs are overpriced and ****ty as you say then people are buying
them because they and their peers deem them to be cool - if that makes
them (or people who buy designer handbags etc) "mindless ****heads"
in your estimation then fair enough.

I bought a Mac because it was the system which satisfied my
requirements with the highest un****tiness to cost ratio.
My reqirements were:

Nothing produced my Microsoft (for ideological reasons).
A unix like kernel (I had 15 years experience with Unix and
virtually none with any other OS)
A well designed easy to use GUI

My iMac seems to fit the bill, though ideally I would be using
an open source OS. The single point of contact for both hardware
and software issues was a nice bonus, as is the fact that *I*
think it is cool. How anybody else rates its coolness factor
is none of my concern.

Ian

--
Ian Gregory
http://www.zenatode.org.uk/ian/

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Wes Groleau <[email protected]> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote
>> none <[email protected]> wrote
>>> Rod Speed <[email protected]> wrote
>>>> none <[email protected]> wrote

>>>>> you need to keep in mind the outer ring is one continuous "arch",
>>>>> the strongest design element you can choose.

>>>> No it isnt, a sphere is much stronger.

>>> that's why it's an entire band, in this application,
>>> it is the strongest configuration that you can build.

>> Still not as strong as a sphere.

> Or even a circle. But a circular touch screen would be
> a lot more work for the graphics designers, and who'd
> want to put a tennis-ball-shaped phone in a pocket?

Irrelevant to his stupid claim.

And his other claim about it being the strongest phone ever
made is just plain silly when its got a glass touch screen too.

In article <[email protected]>, Ian Gregory wrote:
> I bought a Mac because it was the system which satisfied my
> requirements with the highest un****tiness to cost ratio.
> My reqirements were:
>
> Nothing produced my Microsoft (for ideological reasons).
> A unix like kernel (I had 15 years experience with Unix and
> virtually none with any other OS)
> A well designed easy to use GUI
I bought mine (older secondhand Imac G3/400) for similar
reasons although I run Debian Sarge (3.1) on it. But mainly I use what
you people call Classic. I wanted a better platform to run my
purchased copy of Clarisworks 4.0 for my writing. I am now using this
same Imac to edit graphical work as well such as my comic strips that
I have scanned in with my PowerMac B&W g3/300 with my Microtek X6el
Scsi scanner. and of course use Mozilla and MacSSH to access my
pinkrose.dhis.org server and view web pages.
I don't have MacOS X. Thats why I run Linux on mine. However I
am booted into MacOs 9.2.2 most every day.

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On 6/24/07 1:55 PM, in article [email protected],
"Dr zara" <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> "George Kerby" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:C2A41CB0.2DA54%[email protected]...
>>
>>
>>
>> On 6/24/07 12:32 PM, in article
>> [email protected],
>> "Dr zara" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>> In article <[email protected]>,
>>>> zeez <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> Remember when we were all going to be running JAVA programs from some
>>>>>> central (read that metered) server? They've never given up on that
>>>>>> idea....centralized control.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Blech. They can switch me when hell freezes over.
>>>>>
>>>>> The only "Trusted Computer" for me is one that I have complete
>>>>> control over and know exactly
>>>>> what is running.
>>>>
>>>> I understand the iPhone comes with a piece of foil in the package--and
>>>> when you first fire up the phone, it tells you how to make a hat out of
>>>> it.
>>>
>>> Almost a waste of money - most of the apple products users already have
>>> tin
>>> foil hats.
>>>
>>>
>> If that post was intended as a joke, you forgot to include the punch line.
>> Do yourself and everyone else a favor: take a fatal overdose of your
>> medication. You are a cruelly foolish subhuman and a ludicrous,
>> maliciously
>> malodorous pedantic peremptory pedagogue.
>
> And you are an Asshole, with a capitol "A". I'm still waiting to send that
> ice pick. I'll send you a .38 if you promise to eat a bullet.
>
>
That post is written by something so confused, it doesn't know whether to
scratch its watch or wind its ass. How about putting that into proper
syntax, form, and grammar so that I can at least understand what you are
saying before I dismiss it? You make me believe in reincarnation. Nobody can
be as stupid as you in one lifetime

In article <[email protected]>,
"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <[email protected]> wrote:

> In article <[email protected]>,
> Larry <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Tell you what....let's turn 10 over to the posters on this thread that
> > DON'T own a MAC
>
> folks, one more time:
>
> it's not MAC. It's Mac. Short for Macintosh computer.
>
> Yeah, you all think everything is an abbreviation. Well, get over it.
> Mac is simply a nickname for Macintosh.


And you apparently don't know the difference know the difference between
an abbreviation and an acronym.

In the tech world;

Mac is an abbreviation for Macintosh
MAC is an acronym for Media Access Control.



--Mike

In article <[email protected]>,
"MuahMan" <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> Jealous of? Can't any mindless Apple drooling douchebag buy an iPhone?

Apparently not you. Poor little douchebag.

"Ura Dippschit" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In article <[email protected]>,
> "MuahMan" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>> Jealous of? Can't any mindless Apple drooling douchebag buy an iPhone?
>
> Apparently not you. Poor little douchebag.

Not me? Is there some application I have to fill out? What are the
criteria for ownwership?

LOL@ Mactards.

Don't get angry and go Virginia Tech on someone when your iPhone lets you
down.

"George Kerby" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:C2A42FA2.2DA74%[email protected]...
>
>
>
> On 6/24/07 1:55 PM, in article [email protected],
> "Dr zara" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>> "George Kerby" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:C2A41CB0.2DA54%[email protected]...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 6/24/07 12:32 PM, in article
>>> [email protected],
>>> "Dr zara" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>>> In article <[email protected]>,
>>>>> zeez <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Remember when we were all going to be running JAVA programs from
>>>>>>> some
>>>>>>> central (read that metered) server? They've never given up on that
>>>>>>> idea....centralized control.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Blech. They can switch me when hell freezes over.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The only "Trusted Computer" for me is one that I have complete
>>>>>> control over and know exactly
>>>>>> what is running.
>>>>>
>>>>> I understand the iPhone comes with a piece of foil in the package--and
>>>>> when you first fire up the phone, it tells you how to make a hat out
>>>>> of
>>>>> it.
>>>>
>>>> Almost a waste of money - most of the apple products users already have
>>>> tin
>>>> foil hats.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> If that post was intended as a joke, you forgot to include the punch
>>> line.
>>> Do yourself and everyone else a favor: take a fatal overdose of your
>>> medication. You are a cruelly foolish subhuman and a ludicrous,
>>> maliciously
>>> malodorous pedantic peremptory pedagogue.
>>
>> And you are an Asshole, with a capitol "A". I'm still waiting to send
>> that
>> ice pick. I'll send you a .38 if you promise to eat a bullet.
>>
>>
> That post is written by something so confused, it doesn't know whether to
> scratch its watch or wind its ass. How about putting that into proper
> syntax, form, and grammar so that I can at least understand what you are
> saying before I dismiss it? You make me believe in reincarnation. Nobody
> can
> be as stupid as you in one lifetime
>

I think he's saying you are a useless Apple shill on the verge of going on a
VT like shooting spree. He's suggesting your kill yourself before you turn
on others when you realize how empty and meaningless your life is.

Wes Groleau <[email protected]> wrote:
> Bob Fry wrote:
>> Vista Ultimate x64 & iTunes don't seem to do well (in Firefox)....in
>> XP Pro I can see it OK.
>
> Operating System Guideline
>
> Time from Release to "enough bugs fixed to be endurable"
>
> Linux: zero to one day (because a 'release' has already
> been in use for months!)

Fantasy.

> Apple: one to two days

Another fantasy.

> Windows: one to two years

Bare faced lie.

> Your mileage may vary with your endurance

none wrote:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7CvVzBE9aw


Best laugh in a week or two!

(We're going to fix that in the first ROM update)

--
Wes Groleau

Change is inevitable.
Conservatives should learn that "inevitable" is not a synonym for "bad."
Liberals need to learn that "inevitable" is not a synonym for "good."
-- WWG

[email protected] wrote:
> On Jun 24, 2:53 pm, Wes Groleau <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Use of flash instead of a disk makes me wonder about speed.
>> (I can burn a CD faster than I can copy the same ISO to my
>> flash drive.)
>
> Is this on your ****ty iMac with USB 1.1?

No, it's on my employer's crappier Compaq with USB who-knows.

--
Wes Groleau

A bureaucrat is someone who cuts red tape lengthwise.

Ian Gregory wrote:
> On 2007-06-24, MuahMan <[email protected]> spewed:
>> [snip]
>
> The way I would put it is that there are millions of people
> born every day whose probable destiny is to become an
> expert consumer, perfectly adapted to a world based on

Wouldn't an expert recognize that it's pointless to waste that many
words on a WinTroll?

--
Wes Groleau

A pessimist says the glass is half empty.

An optimist says the glass is half full.

An engineer says somebody made the glass
twice as big as it needed to be.

"MuahMan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "George Kerby" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:C2A42FA2.2DA74%[email protected]...
>>
>>
>>
>> On 6/24/07 1:55 PM, in article
>> [email protected],
>> "Dr zara" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> "George Kerby" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> news:C2A41CB0.2DA54%[email protected]...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 6/24/07 12:32 PM, in article
>>>> [email protected],
>>>> "Dr zara" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>>>> In article <[email protected]>,
>>>>>> zeez <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Remember when we were all going to be running JAVA programs from
>>>>>>>> some
>>>>>>>> central (read that metered) server? They've never given up on that
>>>>>>>> idea....centralized control.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Blech. They can switch me when hell freezes over.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The only "Trusted Computer" for me is one that I have complete
>>>>>>> control over and know exactly
>>>>>>> what is running.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I understand the iPhone comes with a piece of foil in the
>>>>>> package--and
>>>>>> when you first fire up the phone, it tells you how to make a hat out
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Almost a waste of money - most of the apple products users already
>>>>> have
>>>>> tin
>>>>> foil hats.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> If that post was intended as a joke, you forgot to include the punch
>>>> line.
>>>> Do yourself and everyone else a favor: take a fatal overdose of your
>>>> medication. You are a cruelly foolish subhuman and a ludicrous,
>>>> maliciously
>>>> malodorous pedantic peremptory pedagogue.
>>>
>>> And you are an Asshole, with a capitol "A". I'm still waiting to send
>>> that
>>> ice pick. I'll send you a .38 if you promise to eat a bullet.
>>>
>>>
>> That post is written by something so confused, it doesn't know whether to
>> scratch its watch or wind its ass. How about putting that into proper
>> syntax, form, and grammar so that I can at least understand what you are
>> saying before I dismiss it? You make me believe in reincarnation. Nobody
>> can
>> be as stupid as you in one lifetime
>>
>
> I think he's saying you are a useless Apple shill on the verge of going on
> a VT like shooting spree. He's suggesting your kill yourself before you
> turn on others when you realize how empty and meaningless your life is.

The Dickhead claims that he doesn't "understand" what I'm saying. He
understands perfectly. He's a "Class A" Asshole. How much plainer can I
make it. He should do us all a favor and off himself. Last week he said
he'd rather be blind than listen to me. He should get his wish.

none wrote:
> Wes Groleau <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Use of flash instead of a disk makes me wonder about speed.
>> (I can burn a CD faster than I can copy the same ISO to my
>> flash drive.)
>
> something is wrong with the format of your flash drive, your usb port or
> you simply have a slow flash drive. (cheap) the flash in the iphone is
> far faster than a hd.

I'll take your word for it, since I haven't had a chance to try one.
Hey, wait a minute.... :-)

Anyway, every USB drive I've ever seen writes slower than a hard drive.
I just thought that was the price to pay for persistence without power.

--
Wes Groleau

"In the field of language teaching, Method A is the logical
contradiction of Method B: if the assumptions from which
A claims to be derived are correct, then B cannot work,
and vice versa. Yet one colleague is getting excellent
results with A and another is getting comparable results
with B. How is this possible?"
-- Earl W. Stevick

Wes Groleau <[email protected]> wrote:

> And then said:
> > more here:
>
> No, there isn't. (OK, there's TWO more lines)
>
> Still, interesting article. Thanks

yeah, got a little copy / paste happy. didn't realize i was that far
down the article