Apple's iPhone casts big shadow on cell industry

Oxford <[email protected]> wrote
> Rod Speed <[email protected]> wrote

>>> but the need for a "telco" is only temporary.

>> Bet it isnt.

> Check with us in 11 years,

Still will have **** all of the country covered by wifi.

> and your tune will say, "oh, I guess that Oxford guy was right".

Not a chance. And you'll be dead then anyway.

>>> Cell towers are dead ends, VOIP wipes them out and is basically "free".

>> Pity about the lack of WiFi in so much of the area most want to move in.

> Do you live in the US? Just curious? or the back woods?

Irrelevant to how much of the US is covered by wifi where its viable to do voip.

>> And if cell towers are dead ends, no point in getting an
>> iphone, you might as well just have a decent non phone
>> instead and avoid the 2 year contract cost with AT&T too.

> But an iPhone will allow for free phone calls within the year,

We'll see...

> most "cell" phones won't.

Most wont care because there plans wont
cost anything like what the iphone plans cost.

>>>> And then there's the phone plans on offer too. That
>>>> isnt something that was relevant with the ipod, you
>>>> could just dump your CDs into if it you wanted to.

>>> But you don't need a data plan for many of the iphone features,

>> You do for voip tho.

> Not sure as of yet. VOIP would run in the Safari Browser
> as it sits now, so there would be no need for "data" through
> ATT for that. That's all pure TCP/IP / 802.11.

Pity about what they charge per month.

>>> so just learn that once Skype is on the iPhone,
>>> (about 2 months) no need to pay ATT a single penny.

>> Wrong, you're locked into a 2 year contract with ATT.

> Ah, but you can leave on day 1 for $175, so you aren't "locked in".

You still get to pay someone a substantial monthly charge.

>>> Then the iPhone becomes a "free" phone
>>> to talk to anyone in the world for "free".

>> Fantasy. Skype aint free.

> Skype to Skype is free, so iPhone to iPhone would be free,

Pity about everyone else you need to call.

> sure if you are talking to an old fashioned phone, you pay a small fee, or
> international old fashioned phones, you pay a bit higher fee, but Skype to
> Skype anywhere in the world, to Skype anywhere in the world is free.

Pity about those you need to call that dont have skype.

>>> Like it should be.

>> Its nothing like that.

> You'll learn.

I've learnt, that wankers like you have never ever had a clue.

> And since you are too slow to understand large
> concepts as I discuss, you've been Plonked!

Fat lot of good that will do you, child.

> Sorry, you just aren't rational.

Silly little desperatey wanking children like you in spades, child.

Now clean that mess up and go to your room.

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› See More: Apple's iPhone casts big shadow on cell industry

Oxford <[email protected]> wrote:
> Justin <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>> but the need for a "telco" is only temporary. Cell towers are dead
>>> ends, VOIP wipes them out and is basically "free".
>>
>> You're high.
>
> Nope, just examining the facts.
>
>
>>>> And then there's the phone plans on offer too. That isnt something
>>>> that was relevant with the ipod, you could just dump your CDs into
>>>> if it you wanted to.
>>>
>>> But you don't need a data plan for many of the iphone features, so
>>> just learn that once Skype is on the iPhone, (about 2 months) no
>>> need to pay ATT a single penny. Then the iPhone becomes a "free"
>>> phone to talk to anyone in the world for "free". Like it should be.
>>
>> Yep, like the FACT that there is no large area public wifi over what?
>> 99% of the country?
>
> But you are missing the point. Are you in 99% of the country at one
> single time? No, you spend 94% of your waking life at home or at the
> office, where 99% of modern people have open wireless, or protected
> but under their control.

> I know, I know it will take people like Rod longer to understand what I'm
> saying, but it's still a fact that Wireless / 802.11 will replace Cell Towers.

No it wont, you watch.

> Will it happen tomorrow, nope! but in the 10 year time frame most Cell
> companies are "toast" unless they get to "free" calls and $100 phones.

They've already got that, child.

"zappo" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Oxford <[email protected]> wrote
>> Rod Speed <[email protected]> wrote
>


quit nymshifting rod, stay in your kill file.

On 6/26/07 7:57 PM, in article [email protected], "Rod
Speed" <[email protected]> wrote:

> George Kerby <[email protected]> wrote
>> Rod Speed <[email protected]> wrote
>>> Oxford <[email protected]> wrote
>>>> George Graves <[email protected]> wrote
>
>>>>> I guess these guys HAVE to write about something, even if what they
>>>>> are writing about is as obvious as this. How big is the cellphone
>>>>> market again? 200 million? 500 million? a Billion? I dunno but its
>>>>> huge. So, its a no brainer to say that the iPhone won't turn the
>>>>> market on it's ear - especially since most cellphones in the world
>>>>> are really cheap ones -that's where the numbers are. What the
>>>>> iPhone will do is sell like hot cakes. They'll literally fly off
>>>>> of Apple's and ATT's shelves. I predict that Apple won't be able
>>>>> to keep up with the orders. That's the significance of iPhone. It
>>>>> will make Apple even richer.
>
>>>> correct George... the iPhone nano or iPhone mini is just around the corner
>
>>> Sure.
>
>>>> and it's going to crush many a cell phone company like a bug.
>
>>> Nope.
>
>>>> The cell industry is incredibly weak in comparison to the computer
>>>> industry.
>
>>> Another pig ignorant fantasy.
>
>>>> They haven't had any serious competition in decades.
>
>>> Corse they have.
>
>>>> The iPhone could take 10-15% of the revenue market in the first year,
>
>>> Not a chance.
>
>>>> 10-15% of the unit volume in year 2,
>
>>> Not a chance.
>
>>>> it just depends on how fast Apple wants to crush cell companies.
>
>>> Just another of your pathetic little pig ignorant drug crazed fantasys.
>
>>>> Should be fun to watch.
>
>>> Yep, clowns like you face down in the mud, as always.
>
>> You are so dense.
>
> You in spades.
>
>> You wouldn't see satire if it walked up and *****-slapped your sorry ass.
>
> You wouldn't notice taking the piss of it bit you on your lard arse.
>
> That last line was a dead giveaway.
>
That you are a stupid moronic limey asshole, yes! One without any
appreciation of humor. Typical.

F.O.A.D., cocksucker.

"zappo" <[email protected]> wrote:

> > Check with us in 11 years,
>
> Still will have **** all of the country covered by wifi.

wee WiMax / 4G

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WiMAX

> > and your tune will say, "oh, I guess that Oxford guy was right".
>
> Not a chance. And you'll be dead then anyway.

I'm only 40, so I still have about 46 years left to see all this play
out.

> >>> Cell towers are dead ends, VOIP wipes them out and is basically "free".
>
> >> Pity about the lack of WiFi in so much of the area most want to move in.
>
> > Do you live in the US? Just curious? or the back woods?
>
> Irrelevant to how much of the US is covered by wifi where its viable to do
> voip.

about 40% of the current coverage area based on population density.

> >> And if cell towers are dead ends, no point in getting an
> >> iphone, you might as well just have a decent non phone
> >> instead and avoid the 2 year contract cost with AT&T too.
>
> > But an iPhone will allow for free phone calls within the year,
>
> We'll see...
>
> > most "cell" phones won't.
>
> Most wont care because there plans wont
> cost anything like what the iphone plans cost.

The iPhone plan is pretty cheap actually, $59, for 450 full rollover
minutes and unlimited data / email / web. Only $20 more if you an
existing customer.

http://www.apple.com/iphone/easysetup/rateplans.html

> >>>> And then there's the phone plans on offer too. That
> >>>> isnt something that was relevant with the ipod, you
> >>>> could just dump your CDs into if it you wanted to.
>
> >>> But you don't need a data plan for many of the iphone features,
>
> >> You do for voip tho.
>
> > Not sure as of yet. VOIP would run in the Safari Browser
> > as it sits now, so there would be no need for "data" through
> > ATT for that. That's all pure TCP/IP / 802.11.
>
> Pity about what they charge per month.

???? It's less than most other services.

> >>> so just learn that once Skype is on the iPhone,
> >>> (about 2 months) no need to pay ATT a single penny.
>
> >> Wrong, you're locked into a 2 year contract with ATT.
>
> > Ah, but you can leave on day 1 for $175, so you aren't "locked in".
>
> You still get to pay someone a substantial monthly charge.

Yes, $27 a month for unlimited wireless data, web, email. But that's
cheap compared to what an old fashioned cell company is trying to
"double" suck out of you.

> >>> Then the iPhone becomes a "free" phone
> >>> to talk to anyone in the world for "free".
>
> >> Fantasy. Skype aint free.
>
> > Skype to Skype is free, so iPhone to iPhone would be free,
>
> Pity about everyone else you need to call.

pretty much everyone i deal with, business clients, family members, etc
will have an iphone within 24 months, so it's not a problem for me. if
you still need to call an old fashioned phone, you can still do it with
skype out for $3 a month, or 2.1 cents per minute for international
calls.

> > sure if you are talking to an old fashioned phone, you pay a small fee, or
> > international old fashioned phones, you pay a bit higher fee, but Skype to
> > Skype anywhere in the world, to Skype anywhere in the world is free.
>
> Pity about those you need to call that dont have skype.

What? you clearly don't understand how skype works, you can call ANYONE
with skype, they don't have to have skype to talk to them with skype.
Maybe that's where your confusion is?

http://www.skype.com/products/skypeout/

> >>> Like it should be.
>
> >> Its nothing like that.
>
> > You'll learn.
>
> I've learnt, that wankers like you have never ever had a clue.

Ah, see above, you haven't even learned how skype works.

> > And since you are too slow to understand large
> > concepts as I discuss, you've been Plonked!
>
> Fat lot of good that will do you, child.
>
> > Sorry, you just aren't rational.
>
> Silly little desperatey wanking children like you in spades, child.
>
> Now clean that mess up and go to your room.

poor ron

"bernard farquart" <[email protected]> wrote:

> quit nymshifting rod, stay in your kill file.

yeah, i hate people that nymshift ALL the time, zappo has been zapped.

none <[email protected]> wrote:
> "zappo" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>> Check with us in 11 years,
>>
>> Still will have **** all of the country covered by wifi.
>
> wee WiMax / 4G
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WiMAX

WiMax aint WiFi, child.

>>> and your tune will say, "oh, I guess that Oxford guy was right".

>> Not a chance. And you'll be dead then anyway.

> I'm only 40, so I still have about 46 years left to see all this play out.

Nope, you'll be dead in a couple of years, child.

>>>>> Cell towers are dead ends, VOIP wipes them out and is basically "free".

>>>> Pity about the lack of WiFi in so much of the area most want to move in.

>>> Do you live in the US? Just curious? or the back woods?

>> Irrelevant to how much of the US is covered by wifi where its viable to do voip.

> about 40% of the current coverage area based on population density.

Pig ignorant lie.

>>>> And if cell towers are dead ends, no point in getting an
>>>> iphone, you might as well just have a decent non phone
>>>> instead and avoid the 2 year contract cost with AT&T too.

>>> But an iPhone will allow for free phone calls within the year,

>> We'll see...

>>> most "cell" phones won't.

>> Most wont care because there plans wont
>> cost anything like what the iphone plans cost.

> The iPhone plan is pretty cheap actually,

Nope.

> $59, for 450 full rollover minutes and unlimited data /
> email / web. Only $20 more if you an existing customer.

> http://www.apple.com/iphone/easysetup/rateplans.html

>>>>>> And then there's the phone plans on offer too. That
>>>>>> isnt something that was relevant with the ipod, you
>>>>>> could just dump your CDs into if it you wanted to.

>>>>> But you don't need a data plan for many of the iphone features,
>>
>>>> You do for voip tho.
>>
>>> Not sure as of yet. VOIP would run in the Safari Browser
>>> as it sits now, so there would be no need for "data" through
>>> ATT for that. That's all pure TCP/IP / 802.11.
>>
>> Pity about what they charge per month.
>
> ???? It's less than most other services.
>
>>>>> so just learn that once Skype is on the iPhone,
>>>>> (about 2 months) no need to pay ATT a single penny.
>>
>>>> Wrong, you're locked into a 2 year contract with ATT.
>>
>>> Ah, but you can leave on day 1 for $175, so you aren't "locked in".
>>
>> You still get to pay someone a substantial monthly charge.
>
> Yes, $27 a month for unlimited wireless data, web, email. But that's
> cheap compared to what an old fashioned cell company is trying to
> "double" suck out of you.
>
>>>>> Then the iPhone becomes a "free" phone
>>>>> to talk to anyone in the world for "free".
>>
>>>> Fantasy. Skype aint free.
>>
>>> Skype to Skype is free, so iPhone to iPhone would be free,
>>
>> Pity about everyone else you need to call.

> pretty much everyone i deal with, business clients, family
> members, etc will have an iphone within 24 months,

Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed fantasys, child.

> so it's not a problem for me. if you still need to call an old
> fashioned phone, you can still do it with skype out for $3 a
> month, or 2.1 cents per minute for international calls.

Only when wifi is available.

>>> sure if you are talking to an old fashioned phone, you pay a small
>>> fee, or international old fashioned phones, you pay a bit higher
>>> fee, but Skype to Skype anywhere in the world, to Skype anywhere in
>>> the world is free.

>> Pity about those you need to call that dont have skype.

> What? you clearly don't understand how skype works,
> you can call ANYONE with skype, they don't have to
> have skype to talk to them with skype.

You do have to TO CALL THEM FROM FREE, child.

> Maybe that's where your confusion is?

Nope, your confusion is ignoring his claim about FREE, child.

> http://www.skype.com/products/skypeout/

No news to anyone, child.

>>>>> Like it should be.
>>
>>>> Its nothing like that.
>>
>>> You'll learn.
>>
>> I've learnt, that wankers like you have never ever had a clue.

> Ah, see above, you haven't even learned how skype works.

See above, you cant even manage to read what he wrote.

>>> And since you are too slow to understand large
>>> concepts as I discuss, you've been Plonked!
>>
>> Fat lot of good that will do you, child.
>>
>>> Sorry, you just aren't rational.
>>
>> Silly little desperatey wanking children like you in spades, child.
>>
>> Now clean that mess up and go to your room.
>
> poor ron

Can't even manage to work out what my name is either.

George Kerby <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 6/26/07 7:57 PM, in article [email protected],
> "Rod Speed" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> George Kerby <[email protected]> wrote
>>> Rod Speed <[email protected]> wrote
>>>> Oxford <[email protected]> wrote
>>>>> George Graves <[email protected]> wrote
>>
>>>>>> I guess these guys HAVE to write about something, even if what
>>>>>> they are writing about is as obvious as this. How big is the
>>>>>> cellphone market again? 200 million? 500 million? a Billion? I
>>>>>> dunno but its huge. So, its a no brainer to say that the iPhone
>>>>>> won't turn the market on it's ear - especially since most
>>>>>> cellphones in the world are really cheap ones -that's where the
>>>>>> numbers are. What the iPhone will do is sell like hot cakes.
>>>>>> They'll literally fly off of Apple's and ATT's shelves. I
>>>>>> predict that Apple won't be able to keep up with the orders.
>>>>>> That's the significance of iPhone. It will make Apple even
>>>>>> richer.
>>
>>>>> correct George... the iPhone nano or iPhone mini is just around
>>>>> the corner
>>
>>>> Sure.
>>
>>>>> and it's going to crush many a cell phone company like a bug.
>>
>>>> Nope.
>>
>>>>> The cell industry is incredibly weak in comparison to the computer
>>>>> industry.
>>
>>>> Another pig ignorant fantasy.
>>
>>>>> They haven't had any serious competition in decades.
>>
>>>> Corse they have.
>>
>>>>> The iPhone could take 10-15% of the revenue market in the first
>>>>> year,
>>
>>>> Not a chance.
>>
>>>>> 10-15% of the unit volume in year 2,
>>
>>>> Not a chance.
>>
>>>>> it just depends on how fast Apple wants to crush cell companies.
>>
>>>> Just another of your pathetic little pig ignorant drug crazed
>>>> fantasys.
>>
>>>>> Should be fun to watch.
>>
>>>> Yep, clowns like you face down in the mud, as always.
>>
>>> You are so dense.
>>
>> You in spades.
>>
>>> You wouldn't see satire if it walked up and *****-slapped your
>>> sorry ass.
>>
>> You wouldn't notice taking the piss of it bit you on your lard arse.
>>
>> That last line was a dead giveaway.

> That you are a stupid moronic limey asshole, yes! One without any
> appreciation of humor. Typical.
>
> F.O.A.D., cocksucker.

Wota stunningly rational line of argument you have there, child.

[email protected] (Lon) wrote in news:8M37D45S39259.2083449074
@anonymous.poster:

> Apple geeks will be queuing up for the device, waiting to get their
hands
> on its advanced touch-screen technology and surf the Web on its big
> 3.5-inch screen. But the phone's steep price will initially limit its
> audience to tech enthusiasts and wealthier consumers.
>

Well, duhh...(c; Remember when those big-screen TVs were sold only to
"tech enthusiasts and wealthier consumers" for $10,000? iPhone will be
$128 with 2 year contract in 2 years....when iPhone 2.0 comes out, of
course.

Duhh......(c;


Larry
--
http://www.spp.gov/
The end of the USA and its Constitution....RIP

"Rod Speed" <[email protected]> wrote in news:5edhlfF34m1e2U1
@mid.individual.net:

> Fantasy. Skype aint free.
>

Skype is free.

INTERCONNECT to POTS and Voicemail isn't.

Skype software is free...
Skype-to-Skype comms are free...
Skypecasts are free....
Skype video is free....

God I hope it's free..I was talking to Japan for 3 hours last night!..(c;
I just hung up with a friend working in Australia this month. Just
before he hung up, I asked him if he wanted me to call him on his
cellphone, later...."NO! DON'T YOU DARE!"...hee hee.

Larry
--
You can use Skype to anywhere free from your cellphones, too! It's
called Mobivox! http://www.mobivox.com/ I'm a charter beta tester....

Cool! Sign up NOW! I just looked at the website. Mobivox is giving all
us users $10 in FREE WORLDWIDE LONG DISTANCE for the 4th of July weekend!
You can call your friends FROM YOUR CELLPHONE overseas FOR FREE this
weekend! $10 at 1.9USc/min is 8.7 hours of free overseas calls!

Thanks, Mobivox!...
Skype for your Cellphone...
Way cool....(c;
See? Cellphones DO still have some uses....Mobile SKYPE!

"Jim P Sharma" <[email protected]> wrote:

> > wee WiMax / 4G
> >
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WiMAX
>
> WiMax aint WiFi, child.

poor Rod Speed, stuck trying to scare people with his ignorance. WiMax
is CERTAINLY WiFi, it's just the latest incarnation of what Apple and
Lucent hammered out in 2000.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WiMAX

> > The iPhone plan is pretty cheap actually,
>
> Nope.

Name a cheaper national service for the iPhone.

> > so it's not a problem for me. if you still need to call an old
> > fashioned phone, you can still do it with skype out for $3 a
> > month, or 2.1 cents per minute for international calls.
>
> Only when wifi is available.

yes, but you have to be pretty poor to NOT be close to an open network
nowadays. You love to forget this fact.

> >>> sure if you are talking to an old fashioned phone, you pay a small
> >>> fee, or international old fashioned phones, you pay a bit higher
> >>> fee, but Skype to Skype anywhere in the world, to Skype anywhere in
> >>> the world is free.
>
> >> Pity about those you need to call that dont have skype.

Ah, Skype doesn't require the other person to "have" Skype, don't you
understand how the world is about to work?

SkypeOut is $3 a month, and this the AMOUNT cell and landline companies
WILL need to charge once Apple is through with them.

> > http://www.skype.com/products/skypeout/
>
> No news to anyone, child.

It is to you. See above.

Poor Rod Speed, he is stuck trying to prop up an OLD BOYS cell network,
now HE, and his career IS TOAST, and I'm just the happy messenger.

Too funny!

Oxford <[email protected]> wrote in news:colalovesmacs-
[email protected]:

> Skype to Skype is free, so iPhone to iPhone would be free, sure if you
> are talking to an old fashioned phone, you pay a small fee, or
> international old fashioned phones, you pay a bit higher fee, but Skype
> to Skype anywhere in the world, to Skype anywhere in the world is free.
>

Ebay has made Skype more expensive but no where near any other POTS
interconnect. My SkypeIn numbers (I have one in Charleston, SC and one
in London, England) are not $60, up from $38 last time I paid....PER
YEAR! There's no minute charges to take calls through either one of them
to receive calls....unless you have Skype set to forward calls to your
cellphone, unless you have Skype Out Unlimited in US/Canada at $30/year.

For $90/YEAR, now, I can still get calls from any phone/cellphone and
make calls to any phone USA/Canada, including AK and HI, with no per
minute nonsense charges....talk as long as you like.

Skype-to-Skype is better, of course. Stupid telephones/cellphones don't
have live colour video...(c;

Larry
--
http://www.spp.gov/
The end of the USA and its Constitution....RIP

"zappo" <[email protected]> wrote in news:4681d975$0$12835$5a62ac22@per-qv1-
newsreader-01.iinet.net.au:

> Pity about those you need to call that dont have skype.
>
>

$30/YEAR to call any phone USA/Canada, unlimited time. 1.9c/min to most
civilized countries precharged to your Skype account.

How much was that cellphone to Japan for 3 hours?

Larry
--
http://www.spp.gov/
The end of the USA and its Constitution....RIP

Larry <[email protected]> wrote:

> > Fantasy. Skype aint free.
> >
>
> Skype is free.
>
> INTERCONNECT to POTS and Voicemail isn't.
>
> Skype software is free...
> Skype-to-Skype comms are free...
> Skypecasts are free....
> Skype video is free....
>
> God I hope it's free..I was talking to Japan for 3 hours last night!..(c;
> I just hung up with a friend working in Australia this month. Just
> before he hung up, I asked him if he wanted me to call him on his
> cellphone, later...."NO! DON'T YOU DARE!"...hee hee.

yes, ignore Rod Speed, he is somehow tied to the old world mafia cell
phone network and can't STAND that soon... everyone will be talking to
everyone anywhere on the planet for FREE!

the WHOLE Cell Industry is going to DIE starting this Friday, this is
VERY TYPICAL of what Steve does to industries when his products enter.
Apple started its life making "free phone calls anywhere in the world",

And for the next 120 years or so Apple will be doing the same thing on a
6-12 billion people scale.

Bits are Bits, there is NO REASON to pay a single penny more than what
you already pay your ISP to make a phone call.

That's the reality, but Rod Speed, is terrified of Apple's entry to make
all this mainstream.

The iPhone will kill his lifestyle, unless he works hard, very, very
hard and is given a golden ticket to work at Apple.

http://www.apple.com/jobs/us/index.html

-

none <[email protected]> wrote
> Jim P Sharma <[email protected]> wrote

>>>>> Check with us in 11 years,

>>>> Still will have **** all of the country covered by wifi.

>>> wee WiMax / 4G

>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WiMAX

>> WiMax aint WiFi, child.

> poor Rod Speed, stuck trying to scare people with his ignorance.

No one's scared by yours child, just amazed
that anyone could actually be that stupid.

> WiMax is CERTAINLY WiFi,

Nope, different technology entirely, child.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wifi
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WiMAX

Compare the IEEE numbers ****wit child.
Better have a VERY large towel handy for your face, again.

> it's just the latest incarnation of what Apple
> and Lucent hammered out in 2000.

Another pig ignorant lie.

> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WiMAX

No news to anyone with a clue, child.

How odd that the iphone doesnt even support WiMax, child.

>>> The iPhone plan is pretty cheap actually,

>> Nope.

> Name a cheaper national service for the iPhone.

The iphone is completely irrelevant, ****wit child.

>>> so it's not a problem for me. if you still need to call an old
>>> fashioned phone, you can still do it with skype out for $3 a
>>> month, or 2.1 cents per minute for international calls.

>> Only when wifi is available.

> yes, but you have to be pretty poor to NOT
> be close to an open network nowadays.

Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed pig ignorant fantasys, child.

> You love to forget this fact.

You wouldnt know what a fact was if it bit you on your lard arse, child.

>>>>> sure if you are talking to an old fashioned phone, you
>>>>> pay a small fee, or international old fashioned phones,
>>>>> you pay a bit higher fee, but Skype to Skype anywhere
>>>>> in the world, to Skype anywhere in the world is free.

>>>> Pity about those you need to call that dont have skype.

> Ah, Skype doesn't require the other person to "have" Skype,

No one ever said they do. They do if you want to call them FOR FREE tho.

> don't you understand how the world is about to work?

It aint about to be pure skype, ever.

> SkypeOut is $3 a month, and this the AMOUNT cell and landline
> companies WILL need to charge once Apple is through with them.

Or they will slug Skype so much for their outgoing calls that they
wont be able to continue to charge what they currently charge.

>>> http://www.skype.com/products/skypeout/

>> No news to anyone, child.

> It is to you.

Nope. Even someone as stupid as you should be able to find plenty
of examples of me suggesting some use that using groups.google, child.

> See above.

Completely useless, as always with your mindless pig ignorant ****.

> Poor Rod Speed, he is stuck trying to prop up an OLD BOYS cell network,

How odd that I hardly ever use it, child.

> now HE, and his career IS TOAST,

Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed fantasys, child.

> and I'm just the happy messenger.

Just the resident village eejut, actually.

> Too funny!

Yep, its not nice to laugh at the village eejut, but we do that anyway.