Verizon Wireless thumbs its nose at the iPhone

In article <[email protected]>, Dr zara
<[email protected]> wrote:

> I have used ATT and Verizon for at least twenty years, concurrently. Let me
> assure you that ATT third rate. Verizon blows it away on a daily basis.
> FYI: The "new" ATT is not anything like the "old" ATT.

More accurately phrased: Verizon blows.
But, if you like crippled hardware so they can do open wallet surgery
at every turn...then go for it.

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Randall Ainsworth wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>,
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> In a vain attempt to stop the churn of 1 million users to the iPhone
>> before years end, Verizon is waiving activation fees
>> untill July 9 at Circuit City locations.
>
> Who in their right mind would want a crippled Verizon phone?

Whats crippled? My phones makes and receives calls just fine and in a
lot more places than at&t.

In article <[email protected]>, George
<[email protected]> wrote:

> > Who in their right mind would want a crippled Verizon phone?
>
> Whats crippled? My phones makes and receives calls just fine and in a
> lot more places than at&t.

Try to connect your crippled Verizon POS to your computer via Bluetooth
or a cable to transfer wallpaper and ringtones. OOPS! You can't do it
because they've disabled that functionality that the manufacturer built
in.

At 30 Jun 2007 10:50:44 -0700 Randall Ainsworth wrote:

> Try to connect your crippled Verizon POS to your computer via Bluetooth
> or a cable to transfer wallpaper and ringtones. OOPS! You can't do it
> because they've disabled that functionality that the manufacturer built
> in.

True. However, you'll have a hard time might hearing that bluetooth-
transfered ringtone in a "no-service" area...



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Nope... sorry.

I have multiple VZW phones and I can connect via bluetooth just fine.
I can use a cable to transfer wallpaper and ringtones just fine.

OOPS!!! - I can do everything/anything I want.

Next?

"Randall Ainsworth" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:300620071050442847%[email protected]...
> In article <[email protected]>, George
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> > Who in their right mind would want a crippled Verizon phone?
>>
>> Whats crippled? My phones makes and receives calls just fine and in a
>> lot more places than at&t.
>
> Try to connect your crippled Verizon POS to your computer via Bluetooth
> or a cable to transfer wallpaper and ringtones. OOPS! You can't do it
> because they've disabled that functionality that the manufacturer built
> in.

On Jun 29, 8:20 pm, Larry <[email protected]> wrote:
> Kuriashkin Victor <[email protected]> wrote in news:1183123526.491549.90390
> @z28g2000prd.googlegroups.com:
>
> > 2) it is impossible to j$rk in metro :-) so, not wasp will not use it
> > at all
>
> You sure about that??...(c;
>

I do not want to check it out :-)

On Jun 30, 5:38 pm, zit <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Jun 29, 8:28 pm, Kuriashkin Victor <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >http://iphone-msn.comservice.
>
> > User with iPhone need just to open this url on her iPhone Safari
>
> We just have to enter our userids and passwords over a clear text
> link?
> Who are you people?

Actually it seems that I need to include https on it. Right now we
have not it, and it seems that, at least, for a while, we have not any
problem.
But - yes, U R right, https is must be.

Some Razr phones made it out of Verizon with everything working. I had one.
Once Verizon found out they called me to bring it in for a firmware update.
I said yeah right. Why so you can take away the Bluetooth function ?

When I sold it on eBay the bids got up high fast.

"Randall Ainsworth" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:300620071341263372%[email protected]...
> In article <[email protected]>, Ness_net
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Nope... sorry.
>>
>> I have multiple VZW phones and I can connect via bluetooth just fine.
>> I can use a cable to transfer wallpaper and ringtones just fine.
>>
>> OOPS!!! - I can do everything/anything I want.
>>
>> Next?
>
> You must have a hacked phone. It's no secret that Verizon cripples
> their phones so that you have to pay them for transferring ringtones,
> wallpaper, etc.

In article <[email protected]>,
ed <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Jun 30, 1:41 pm, Randall Ainsworth <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > In article <[email protected]>, Ness_net
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > Nope... sorry.
> >
> > > I have multiple VZW phones and I can connect via bluetooth just fine.
> > > I can use a cable to transfer wallpaper and ringtones just fine.
> >
> > > OOPS!!! - I can do everything/anything I want.
> >
> > > Next?
> >
> > You must have a hacked phone. It's no secret that Verizon cripples
> > their phones so that you have to pay them for transferring ringtones,
> > wallpaper, etc.
>
> verizon does cripple the bluetooth on their phones, but you can
> transfer wallpaper and ringtones w/out hacking the phone- you just use
> a serial cable profile. there's no problem transferring via a cable
> to begin with- they just don't provide you the software to do it.
> bitpim is the most popular choice for transferring files.
>
> and since this conversation is in the context of the iphone, it should
> be pointed out that the iphone has the same limitations on using user
> ringtones, and the first reports are that the iphone's bluetooth is
> also crippled... and more so than most verizon phones- for example,
> verizon bluetooth phones have been coming w/ their dial up networking
> profiles enabled, which is not true w/ iphone...

While i expected the feature set to be somewhat limited at first
introduction, i must say i'm somewhat shocked to learn that apple has
not yet enabled and/or has intentionally crippled bluetooth features
but then again... apple wants to tie everything iphone related to the
itunes music store, hence you have to open an itunes account to even
activate the phone. Look for them to offer ringtones via itunes soon
though it may be possible to assign itunes purchased music as a ringtone?

In article <[email protected]>,
ru2b12 <[email protected]> wrote:

> though it may be possible to assign itunes purchased music as a ringtone?

Not at the moment.

In article <[email protected]>,
Reginald Dwight <[email protected]> wrote:

> In article <[email protected]>,
> ru2b12 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > though it may be possible to assign itunes purchased music as a ringtone?
>
> Not at the moment.

Well, i'm sure there will be sw updates o' plenty in the days to come
though i may wait for the 2nd generation iphone.

"Todd Allcock" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> At 30 Jun 2007 13:41:26 -0700 Randall Ainsworth wrote:
>
>> You must have a hacked phone. It's no secret that Verizon cripples
>> their phones so that you have to pay them for transferring ringtones,
>> wallpaper, etc.
>
>
> Apparently it's also no secret that the iPhone is almost equally
> crippled. According to engadget.com, who's playing with 12 of them, you
> can't tether a computer to an iPhone via bluetooth or cable, can't
> transfer files via bluetooth, and can't even use it as an iPod until it's
> activated with AT&T (so much for unlocking it! It only allows emergency
> phones calls and no other functions if a non-iTunes activated SIM is
> inserted.)
>
> I'm surprised Verizon passed on the iPhone- it's crippled almost to
> Verizon spec and beyond!

the bluetooth is actually crippled beyond verizon spec. :P

Randall Ainsworth wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>, George
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>> Who in their right mind would want a crippled Verizon phone?
>> Whats crippled? My phones makes and receives calls just fine and in a
>> lot more places than at&t.
>
> Try to connect your crippled Verizon POS to your computer via Bluetooth
> or a cable to transfer wallpaper and ringtones. OOPS! You can't do it
> because they've disabled that functionality that the manufacturer built
> in.

Check out BitPim. It's a free download from sourceforge. If your phone
is supported, then get a cable on ebay or somewhere. Make sure you get
the right cable, as some of the phones are very similar. Proceed to
transfer ringtones, phonebooks, wallpaper, etc to your phone.

Problem solved.

Elizabot v2.0.3 <[email protected]> wrote:
> Randall Ainsworth wrote:
>> In article <[email protected]>, George
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>> Who in their right mind would want a crippled Verizon phone?
>>> Whats crippled? My phones makes and receives calls just fine and in
>>> a lot more places than at&t.
>>
>> Try to connect your crippled Verizon POS to your computer via
>> Bluetooth or a cable to transfer wallpaper and ringtones. OOPS! You
>> can't do it because they've disabled that functionality that the
>> manufacturer built in.
>
> Check out BitPim. It's a free download from sourceforge. If your phone
> is supported, then get a cable on ebay or somewhere. Make sure you get
> the right cable, as some of the phones are very similar. Proceed to
> transfer ringtones, phonebooks, wallpaper, etc to your phone.

> Problem solved.

Still completely ****ed to have to do that when it should
be done using the bluetooth that is there for that.

"Rod Speed" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Elizabot v2.0.3 <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Randall Ainsworth wrote:
>>> In article <[email protected]>, George
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Who in their right mind would want a crippled Verizon phone?
>>>> Whats crippled? My phones makes and receives calls just fine and in
>>>> a lot more places than at&t.
>>>
>>> Try to connect your crippled Verizon POS to your computer via
>>> Bluetooth or a cable to transfer wallpaper and ringtones. OOPS! You
>>> can't do it because they've disabled that functionality that the
>>> manufacturer built in.
>>
>> Check out BitPim. It's a free download from sourceforge. If your phone
>> is supported, then get a cable on ebay or somewhere. Make sure you get
>> the right cable, as some of the phones are very similar. Proceed to
>> transfer ringtones, phonebooks, wallpaper, etc to your phone.
>
>> Problem solved.
>
> Still completely ****ed to have to do that when it should
> be done using the bluetooth that is there for that.

bitpim works over bluetooth too- it uses the serial protocol that's usually
still available, even if file transfer is disabled. from the articles about
how iphone *totally* disables bluetooth other than for earpieces, it may not
be able to take advantage of bitpim...