NEWS: iPhone becomes phisherman's friend

On Sat, 01 Sep 2007 19:37:55 GMT, DTC <no_spam@move_along_folks.foob>
wrote:

>John Navas wrote:
>> EGPRS(EDGE) isn't "slow"
>
>Considering its typically only about twice the speed of a 56K dial-up
>connection, I'd say it was slow...compared to Sprint.


Maybe two years ago that was true, in most areas its way faster than
that now.

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> On Sat, 01 Sep 2007 19:37:55 GMT, DTC <no_spam@move_along_folks.foob>
> wrote:
>
>>John Navas wrote:
>>> EGPRS(EDGE) isn't "slow"
>>
>>Considering its typically only about twice the speed of a 56K dial-up
>>connection, I'd say it was slow...compared to Sprint.
>
>
> Maybe two years ago that was true, in most areas its way faster than
> that now.

And still the slowest offering of the big three, despite the increase in
speed.

"SMS" wrote:
> DTC wrote:
>> John Navas wrote:
>>> EGPRS(EDGE) isn't "slow"
>>
>> Considering its typically only about twice the speed of a 56K dial-up
>> connection, I'd say it was slow...compared to Sprint.
>
> When the first reviewers reviewed the iPhone, one of them said "You
> almost ache for a dial-up modem." In one sense that was an unfair comment,
> since on the surface at least EDGE is 2x-4x the speed of dial-up. However
> what makes EDGE appear to be so slow is the latency, which makes it appear
> so slow, and which makes it unusable for many applications that rely on
> low latency.
>
> We've all seen the reasons that were presented as to why Apple didn't
> include HSDPA on the first iPhone, but Apple's been mum as to why they did
> what they did.
>

No they they haven't.


> Speculations by various industry experts is:
>
> -Apple was in shock when Verizon turned them down, and had no time to
> develop an HSDPA-based device.

Talk about reaching.


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Mike

In article <[email protected]>,
Scott <[email protected]> wrote:

> [email protected] wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
> > On Sat, 01 Sep 2007 19:37:55 GMT, DTC <no_spam@move_along_folks.foob>
> > wrote:
> >
> >>John Navas wrote:
> >>> EGPRS(EDGE) isn't "slow"
> >>
> >>Considering its typically only about twice the speed of a 56K dial-up
> >>connection, I'd say it was slow...compared to Sprint.
> >
> >
> > Maybe two years ago that was true, in most areas its way faster than
> > that now.
>
> And still the slowest offering of the big three, despite the increase in
> speed.

I use the web on my iPhone daily, and am not disappointed with the speed
at all. also, Find a wifi location and it screams.

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"Kurt" wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>,
> Scott <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> [email protected] wrote in
>> news:[email protected]:
>>
>> > On Sat, 01 Sep 2007 19:37:55 GMT, DTC <no_spam@move_along_folks.foob>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >>John Navas wrote:
>> >>> EGPRS(EDGE) isn't "slow"
>> >>
>> >>Considering its typically only about twice the speed of a 56K dial-up
>> >>connection, I'd say it was slow...compared to Sprint.
>> >
>> >
>> > Maybe two years ago that was true, in most areas its way faster than
>> > that now.
>>
>> And still the slowest offering of the big three, despite the increase in
>> speed.
>
> I use the web on my iPhone daily, and am not disappointed with the speed
> at all. also, Find a wifi location and it screams.

EDGE is very usable for me with speeds averaging around 150 kbps. 'Course I
only need to use it less than 10% of the time. Most of my data is through
WiFi.

I've also had the chance to compare the speed of loading actual Web pages
via EDGE on the iPhone to at least 4 EV-DO Treos. So far the Treos have been
slower every single time (with much better presentation of the actual Web).
I won't even mention how poorly CDMA 1x did compared to EDGE, but anyone
that doesn't take that into consideration is nuts: plenty of areas have no
EV-DO at all, and you will have to contend with 1x. If you want to talk
about slow and unusable, that would be 1x. Many areas I've been to or
through didn't have EV-DO. Every area I've been to so far with my iPhone at
least had EDGE.


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In article <[email protected]>, "Tinman" <[email protected]>
wrote:

> "Kurt" wrote:
> > In article <[email protected]>,
> > Scott <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> [email protected] wrote in
> >> news:[email protected]:
> >>
> >> > On Sat, 01 Sep 2007 19:37:55 GMT, DTC <no_spam@move_along_folks.foob>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>John Navas wrote:
> >> >>> EGPRS(EDGE) isn't "slow"
> >> >>
> >> >>Considering its typically only about twice the speed of a 56K dial-up
> >> >>connection, I'd say it was slow...compared to Sprint.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Maybe two years ago that was true, in most areas its way faster than
> >> > that now.
> >>
> >> And still the slowest offering of the big three, despite the increase in
> >> speed.
> >
> > I use the web on my iPhone daily, and am not disappointed with the speed
> > at all. also, Find a wifi location and it screams.
>
> EDGE is very usable for me with speeds averaging around 150 kbps. 'Course I
> only need to use it less than 10% of the time. Most of my data is through
> WiFi.
>
> I've also had the chance to compare the speed of loading actual Web pages
> via EDGE on the iPhone to at least 4 EV-DO Treos. So far the Treos have been
> slower every single time (with much better presentation of the actual Web).
> I won't even mention how poorly CDMA 1x did compared to EDGE, but anyone
> that doesn't take that into consideration is nuts: plenty of areas have no
> EV-DO at all, and you will have to contend with 1x. If you want to talk
> about slow and unusable, that would be 1x. Many areas I've been to or
> through didn't have EV-DO. Every area I've been to so far with my iPhone at
> least had EDGE.

My Treo was painfully slow for web not to mention I mostly was using
..mobi type sites.

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[email protected] wrote:
> On Sat, 01 Sep 2007 19:37:55 GMT, DTC <no_spam@move_along_folks.foob>
> wrote:
>
>> John Navas wrote:
>>> EGPRS(EDGE) isn't "slow"
>> Considering its typically only about twice the speed of a 56K dial-up
>> connection, I'd say it was slow...compared to Sprint.
>
>
> Maybe two years ago that was true, in most areas its way faster than
> that now.

I'm still lucky to get faster than 180 Kbps in Dallas....hardly "way faster"

On Aug 26, 8:46 pm, John Navas <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 21:58:40 GMT, "Kevin Weaver"
> >He was proved wrong about who was
> >offered the iphone 1st. It was shown to him
>
> Wrong on all counts. Again. Get a life.

Wrong again. It was indeed clearly shown Apple approached Verizon
before AT&T.