iPhone outsells ALL smartphones in July

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David <[email protected]> wrote:

> This is 'alt.cellular.verizon', not 'alt.iphone.slobbering.fanboys'

But you will need to keep up on the iPhone news since at some point
Verizon will also be allowed to sell the iPhone. It might be 2 more
years, but you'll get a chance in time.

So don't be so bitter until then. Okay?

At 04 Sep 2007 20:19:02 -0600 Oxford wrote:

> > Sure you can edit spreadsheets on the iPhone....
> >
> > http://docs.googl
>
> interesting, so another iPhone myth dies a painful death...


As does your ability to edit or even view those documents when you
wander out of wi-fi and cellular range...

I wouldn't brag about the iPhone's ability to use web-based services
when it only illustates what on-board services it lacks. It's like
saying an FM radio is superior to an iPod because the radio's "random
playlist" is infinite! ;-)


--

"I don't need my cell phone to play video games or take pictures
or double as a Walkie-Talkie; I just need it to work. Thanks for
all the bells and whistles, but I could communicate better with
ACTUAL bells and whistles." -Bill Maher 9/25/2003

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<[email protected]>,
Oxford <[email protected]> wrote:

> Larry <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > Apple will KILL off RIM, MOT, Symbian, Nokia, Samsung... they just don't
> > > have the talent to compete against OSX inside a Phone.
> > >
> >
> > You'd better hope not! Apple runs on MOTOROLA PROCESSORS!
> >
> > Larry
>
> Good Lord Larry! Where have you been over the last 2 years? Apple runs
> only on Intel processors for their Macs and the iPhone uses an Apple
> branded Samsung ARM as the processor.
>
> Apple hasn't used Motorola processors for what 4-5 years?
>
> But thanks for playing!
>
> -

Actually, more like 2 years, as I recall. The last Powerbooks and iBooks
used G4 processors, made by Freestyle (OK, that wasn't Moto, it was spun
off by Moto).

--
Dave Fritzinger
Honolulu, HI

David Fritzinger <[email protected]> wrote:

> > Good Lord Larry! Where have you been over the last 2 years? Apple runs
> > only on Intel processors for their Macs and the iPhone uses an Apple
> > branded Samsung ARM as the processor.
> >
> > Apple hasn't used Motorola processors for what 4-5 years?
> >
> > But thanks for playing!
> >
> > -
>
> Actually, more like 2 years, as I recall. The last Powerbooks and iBooks
> used G4 processors, made by Freestyle (OK, that wasn't Moto, it was spun
> off by Moto).

Good point... yeah, I was thinking of the G5's only being made by IBM.
and yes, Freescale/MOT is basically the same thing. I stand corrected.

Oxford <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> Scott <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> > getting around 2% in less than 60 days is pretty remarkable. then
>> > outselling all other smartphones "combined",
>>
>> Why are you comparing apples to oranges- the iPhone is NOT a smart
>> phone.
>
> so it's a GeniusPhone? or as people are starting to call it, the
> JesusPhone
>
> It's definitely smarter than any of the "smartphones" currently being
> marketed. It's brilliant for sure, perhaps it deserves of higher class
> of its own? is that what you are trying to say?


Hardly- it will go down as the Lisa of the cellular world.

>
>> > bodes well for them to
>> > get 10-15% in 1.5 years.
>>
>> Um- no.
>
> well sure, it could be a bit higher, but I think 10-15% is about right
> for the "smartphone" market in the 36 month timeframe.

Now you're changing the measure- a sign of someone finding themself on
the bad end of the discussion. You just went from 10-15% of the market
to 10-15% of the smartphone market. You'll get whiplash from reversing
course so quickly.


>
>> > AT&T clearly isn't allowed to advertise the iPhone, so not sure why
>> > you made that comment.
>>
>> Citation?
>
> doesn't require a citation, Apple does not allow others to advertise
> the iPhone. sounds like you don't know much about Apple, is that
> correct?

No- it sounds like you made it up and can't back up the statement with
any authoritative sources.

>
>> > Ah, we are talking about "smartphones", plus you are forgetting
>> > about Europe where they have never seen such an advanced phone. It
>> > will sell like blockbusters!
>> >
>> > My sense is they will hit 10 million iPhones by Jan 1, 2008. Or
>> > pretty darn close.
>>
>> Oh crap- you made me squirt soda all over the keyboard with that one.
>> Ever thought of a career in comedy?
>
> Perhaps you have never heard of Christmas? Apple sold 21.1 million
> iPods during the 2006 holiday season. It will sell around 33 million
> this year, so it's a no brainer Apple will sell around 6.5 million
> iPhones in that period alone. So 10 million sounds about right.

Your tainted and elementary school guesses don't belong here. Come back
when you have facts.

>

> "Oxford" wrote:
>
> (Reuters) - Apple Inc's iPhone outsold all smartphones in the United
> States in July, its first full month on sale, accounting for 1.8 percent
> of all U.S. mobile handset sales, research group iSuppli said on Tuesday.
>
> ISuppli reiterated its forecast that Apple would sell 4.5 million
> iPhones this year, rising to more than 30 million in 2011.
>
> The two models of the iPhone on the market sold more than Research in
> Motion's Blackberry series, the entire Palm portfolio and any individual
> smartphone model from Motorola, Nokia or Samsung.
>
> ISuppli classifies the iPhone as a crossover phone that competes with
> both smartphones, which have personal computer-like functions such as
> e-mail, and feature phones, which have extras such as cameras and music
> players.
>
> "While iSuppli has not collected historical information on this topic,
> it's likely that the speed of the iPhone's rise to competitive dominance
> in its segment is unprecedented in the history of the mobile-handset
> market," iSuppli said.
>
> "Apple achieved this in the face of numerous, well-entrenched
> competitors."

What a crock. Those reporters need to find another job and quit lying and
shilling for Apple. I especially like the fact they admit "they (i.e.
iSuppli) have not collected historical information on this topic" too.

The Nokia 1100 was the best selling phone of all time at 200 MILLION units.
That's more than twice the number of iPods and Playstation 2 units sold
combined - and then some. Apple with 4.5 million phones is a drop in the
bucket to the 1100 phone. Lasts and is still in use for years. I doubt
very much if the iPhone will last that long. Apple's sheep will flock to
the next model in a couple of years.

Remember the Mac "Cube?"

B~

Scott <[email protected]> wrote:

> > so it's a GeniusPhone? or as people are starting to call it, the
> > JesusPhone
> >
> > It's definitely smarter than any of the "smartphones" currently being
> > marketed. It's brilliant for sure, perhaps it deserves of higher class
> > of its own? is that what you are trying to say?
>
> Hardly- it will go down as the Lisa of the cellular world.

now who's the comedian

you clearly haven't used the iPhone, case closed.

> >> > bodes well for them to
> >> > get 10-15% in 1.5 years.
> >>
> >> Um- no.
> >
> > well sure, it could be a bit higher, but I think 10-15% is about right
> > for the "smartphone" market in the 36 month timeframe.
>
> Now you're changing the measure- a sign of someone finding themself on
> the bad end of the discussion. You just went from 10-15% of the market
> to 10-15% of the smartphone market. You'll get whiplash from reversing
> course so quickly.

sorry for your confusion, but I never implied 10-15% of the entire cell
phone market. look up at the thread title, does it saying anything about
basic cell phones? nope! you made a mental mistake, case closed.

> > doesn't require a citation, Apple does not allow others to advertise
> > the iPhone. sounds like you don't know much about Apple, is that
> > correct?
>
> No- it sounds like you made it up and can't back up the statement with
> any authoritative sources.

incorrect, the iPhone is only sold through 2 channels. Apple/ATT, and
ATT cannot advertise the iPhone outside of their store. That's a fact.

> > Perhaps you have never heard of Christmas? Apple sold 21.1 million
> > iPods during the 2006 holiday season. It will sell around 33 million
> > this year, so it's a no brainer Apple will sell around 6.5 million
> > iPhones in that period alone. So 10 million sounds about right.
>
> Your tainted and elementary school guesses don't belong here. Come back
> when you have facts.

I don't use "guesses", just facts, learn how to do it and you'll be more
believable next time.

Oxford <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> Scott <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> > so it's a GeniusPhone? or as people are starting to call it, the
>> > JesusPhone
>> >
>> > It's definitely smarter than any of the "smartphones" currently
>> > being marketed. It's brilliant for sure, perhaps it deserves of
>> > higher class of its own? is that what you are trying to say?
>>
>> Hardly- it will go down as the Lisa of the cellular world.
>
> now who's the comedian
>
> you clearly haven't used the iPhone, case closed.
>
>> >> > bodes well for them to
>> >> > get 10-15% in 1.5 years.
>> >>
>> >> Um- no.
>> >
>> > well sure, it could be a bit higher, but I think 10-15% is about
>> > right for the "smartphone" market in the 36 month timeframe.
>>
>> Now you're changing the measure- a sign of someone finding themself
>> on the bad end of the discussion. You just went from 10-15% of the
>> market to 10-15% of the smartphone market. You'll get whiplash from
>> reversing course so quickly.
>
> sorry for your confusion, but I never implied 10-15% of the entire
> cell phone market. look up at the thread title, does it saying
> anything about basic cell phones? nope! you made a mental mistake,
> case closed.

Um- no. Your words, "getting around 2% in less than 60 days is pretty
remarkable. then
outselling all other smartphones "combined", bodes well for them to get
10-15% in 1.5 years."

You clearly talk about their total market share and the 10-15% in the
same breath. You made the mistake of opening your mouth in the first
place, case closed.

>
>> > doesn't require a citation, Apple does not allow others to
>> > advertise the iPhone. sounds like you don't know much about Apple,
>> > is that correct?
>>
>> No- it sounds like you made it up and can't back up the statement
>> with any authoritative sources.
>
> incorrect, the iPhone is only sold through 2 channels. Apple/ATT, and
> ATT cannot advertise the iPhone outside of their store. That's a fact.

Citation? The lack of a citation would indicate that the stories of
AT&T purposely playing down the phone in their stores is much more
factual.

>
>> > Perhaps you have never heard of Christmas? Apple sold 21.1 million
>> > iPods during the 2006 holiday season. It will sell around 33
>> > million this year, so it's a no brainer Apple will sell around 6.5
>> > million iPhones in that period alone. So 10 million sounds about
>> > right.
>>
>> Your tainted and elementary school guesses don't belong here. Come
>> back when you have facts.
>
> I don't use "guesses", just facts, learn how to do it and you'll be
> more believable next time.

You haven't posted an independent fact in the thread, iother than the
original article. Everything is prefaced by "it's a no-brainer" and "I
think" and other less -than-factual prefaces.

"B. Peg" <[email protected]> wrote:

> > "While iSuppli has not collected historical information on this topic,
> > it's likely that the speed of the iPhone's rise to competitive dominance
> > in its segment is unprecedented in the history of the mobile-handset
> > market," iSuppli said.
> >
> > "Apple achieved this in the face of numerous, well-entrenched
> > competitors."
>
> What a crock. Those reporters need to find another job and quit lying and
> shilling for Apple. I especially like the fact they admit "they (i.e.
> iSuppli) have not collected historical information on this topic" too.
>
> The Nokia 1100 was the best selling phone of all time at 200 MILLION units.

but that was a cheap, throw away cell phone while the iPhone is more
like a tiny laptop.

> That's more than twice the number of iPods and Playstation 2 units sold
> combined - and then some.

your numbers are way off. there have been 109 million ipods sold, so you
need to subtract out all the playstations 2's add 9 million, then
subtract 200 million, so the cheap nokia phone has sold 81 million more,
big whoop!

> Apple with 4.5 million phones is a drop in the
> bucket to the 1100 phone. Lasts and is still in use for years. I doubt
> very much if the iPhone will last that long. Apple's sheep will flock to
> the next model in a couple of years.

but the nokia 1100 isn't in the same league as the iPhone, you are
talking about a cheap "cell phone" compared to a full featured
"smartphone".

> Remember the Mac "Cube?"

yes, and it's amazing what they sell for now days!

Scott <[email protected]> wrote:

> > sorry for your confusion, but I never implied 10-15% of the entire
> > cell phone market. look up at the thread title, does it saying
> > anything about basic cell phones? nope! you made a mental mistake,
> > case closed.
>
> Um- no. Your words, "getting around 2% in less than 60 days is pretty
> remarkable. then
> outselling all other smartphones "combined", bodes well for them to get
> 10-15% in 1.5 years."
>
> You clearly talk about their total market share and the 10-15% in the
> same breath. You made the mistake of opening your mouth in the first
> place, case closed.

yes, total "smartphone" marketshare. if you misread that, AND the title
of this thread, i'm sorry, but I certainly didn't intend for you to
understand it that way.

"10-15% total smartphone marketshare" in 1.5 years. Is that easier for
you to comprehend? hope so.

> >> > doesn't require a citation, Apple does not allow others to
> >> > advertise the iPhone. sounds like you don't know much about Apple,
> >> > is that correct?
> >>
> >> No- it sounds like you made it up and can't back up the statement
> >> with any authoritative sources.
> >
> > incorrect, the iPhone is only sold through 2 channels. Apple/ATT, and
> > ATT cannot advertise the iPhone outside of their store. That's a fact.
>
> Citation? The lack of a citation would indicate that the stories of
> AT&T purposely playing down the phone in their stores is much more
> factual.

A fact like this doesn't need a cite, "common knowledge" of how Apple
operates is plenty enough to cover it.

> >> > Perhaps you have never heard of Christmas? Apple sold 21.1 million
> >> > iPods during the 2006 holiday season. It will sell around 33
> >> > million this year, so it's a no brainer Apple will sell around 6.5
> >> > million iPhones in that period alone. So 10 million sounds about
> >> > right.
> >>
> >> Your tainted and elementary school guesses don't belong here. Come
> >> back when you have facts.
> >
> > I don't use "guesses", just facts, learn how to do it and you'll be
> > more believable next time.
>
> You haven't posted an independent fact in the thread, iother than the
> original article. Everything is prefaced by "it's a no-brainer" and "I
> think" and other less -than-factual prefaces.

I'm a beacon of honesty, so you'll just have to trust me.

-

John C. Randolph wrote:
> On 2007-09-04 14:34:10 -0700, Steve Mackay <[email protected]> said:
>
>> Get back to us when you take down that shrine of Steve Jobs that you
>> pray to every day.
>
> You realize, I hope, that a statement like that says far more about you,
> than the person you directed it towards.
>
> -jcr
>
Not really... But believe whatever you want...

> but the nokia 1100 isn't in the same league as the iPhone, you are
> talking about a cheap "cell phone" compared to a full featured
> "smartphone".

Except the iPhone ISN'T a smartphone.

Oxford wrote:
> KDT <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Sure you can edit spreadsheets on the iPhone....
>>
>> http://docs.googl
>
> interesting, so another iPhone myth dies a painful death...

Not really, I said *directly* on the iphone the same as you can do on a
smartphone. Many businesses don't allow third parts such as Google to be
involved.

Oxford <[email protected]> wrote in news:colalovesmacs-
[email protected]:

> but that was a cheap, throw away cell phone while the iPhone is more
> like a tiny laptop.
>

No it's not. A tiny laptop runs any program its operating system
supports and has STORAGE to put things in. The iPhone has neither, ON
PURPOSE, so you are totally dependent on the SUPPLIER who you must be
constantly tethered to, and paying of course, to make it functional.

Notice its firewire/USB ports to tie the external hard drive to so you
can onload/offload data/pictures/movies/stuff to/from? NOT! A tiny
laptop has plenty of ports to offload/onload with.

iPhone is a Blackberry with a touch screen.....SERVER based to make the
carrier money.....

Remember back when we were all supposed to give up our massive hard drive
PCs and use an appliance that amounted to a Java Computer where all our
data and programs were stored on a SERVER BASED system so we could be
constantly charged, over and over, for access to the data and use of the
programs? JAVA was the answer to all our problems....remember? Remember
when the users rebelled and "Just Said NO" to this scam? Is iPhone the
reincarnation to this off-site, server-based, soak 'em constantly, scam?

I can see that....can't you?



Larry
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