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- 09-08-2007, 09:27 PM #16Gene JonesGuest
Re: Possible windfall for early buyers of the iPhone
In article <[email protected]>,
Kurt <[email protected]> wrote:
> Yes, "ClosetDesign 3D" is not avalable for Mac.
> Damn those developers.
>
> My 500K + a year business run only on Macs has been crippled by this
> lack of software.
> I cry every night about this.
it runs under parallels, sleep tight.
http://www.parallels.com/en/download/desktop/
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- 09-08-2007, 09:30 PM #17B. PegGuest
Re: Possible windfall for early buyers of the iPhone
> "Oxford" wrote:
>...
> But nobody in Europe has the ability to make highly advanced phones such
> as the iPhone, so it will quickly become the number 1 smart phone in
> europe and remain that way for decades. Apple just knows how to build
> products like no other company on the planet. Smaller, faster, lighter,
> better battery life, Apple will kill all the european phones in a matter
> of a year or so.
Oh sure they will. I'll bet Nokia is just quaking in their boots.
Think Apple will come up with anything like the Nokia IP2450 security phone?
Highly doubtful. It's a Nokia-Seimens design. Consumer cost $59,995.00. Is
it worth it? Maybe to some business.
The iPhone should be marketed as a mutli-media phone as does Nokia with
their N95. It certainly isn't a business phone as the HTC TyTn II which
does far more but at a higher cost. I'd hesitate to the iPhone a
smartphone. Too "gimicky" an advertsing word for a multi-meida phone -
which it is.
Oh, the ipod has usually scored lower than iRiver, Creative, and Archos in
all audiophile reports. Go look.
B~
- 09-08-2007, 10:47 PM #18OxfordGuest
Re: Possible windfall for early buyers of the iPhone
"B. Peg" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > "Oxford" wrote:
> >...
> > But nobody in Europe has the ability to make highly advanced phones such
> > as the iPhone, so it will quickly become the number 1 smart phone in
> > europe and remain that way for decades. Apple just knows how to build
> > products like no other company on the planet. Smaller, faster, lighter,
> > better battery life, Apple will kill all the european phones in a matter
> > of a year or so.
>
> Oh sure they will. I'll bet Nokia is just quaking in their boots.
The CEO certainly is, they are going to try and roll out their Ovi music
store to compete against apple but from what I've heard they can't get
music rights, nor have the technical expertise to build huge multi-user
download systems.
> Think Apple will come up with anything like the Nokia IP2450 security phone?
> Highly doubtful. It's a Nokia-Seimens design. Consumer cost $59,995.00. Is
> it worth it? Maybe to some business.
apple has built stuff like that for years. they just do it better since
they have access to better engineers.
http://www.apple.com/xserve/design.html
> The iPhone should be marketed as a mutli-media phone as does Nokia with
> their N95. It certainly isn't a business phone as the HTC TyTn II which
> does far more but at a higher cost. I'd hesitate to the iPhone a
> smartphone. Too "gimicky" an advertsing word for a multi-meida phone -
> which it is.
the business stuff is coming quickly, it's only been out for 70ish days,
so they can do both, a high end multi-media phone and a medium end
business workhorse.
> Oh, the ipod has usually scored lower than iRiver, Creative, and Archos in
> all audiophile reports. Go look.
no, provide a link and we'll talk. if not, you are incorrect.
- 09-09-2007, 08:50 AM #19KurtGuest
Re: Possible windfall for early buyers of the iPhone
In article <[email protected]>,
Gene Jones <[email protected]> wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>,
> Kurt <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Yes, "ClosetDesign 3D" is not avalable for Mac.
> > Damn those developers.
> >
> > My 500K + a year business run only on Macs has been crippled by this
> > lack of software.
> > I cry every night about this.
>
> it runs under parallels, sleep tight.
>
> http://www.parallels.com/en/download/desktop/
The only thing we have an emulator on one of our machines for is to test
web pages on PCIE. Never have had a need for any other programs.
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- 09-09-2007, 09:50 AM #20chrisvGuest
Re: Possible windfall for early buyers of the iPhone
B. Peg wrote:
>>"dapunka" wrote:
>>> Glad I didn't jump on the iPhone bandwagon - and now certainly won't.
>>> There's always something better around the corner.
>>
>> That's how it works nowadays - there's always something better around
>> the corner. If you decide to never buy a tech product because
>> something better will turn up soon, you'll never buy anything.
>
> True, but at least I wouldn't be the owner of a product that has been
> discontinued like Apple's 4gig iPhone. That has to be one of the
> shortest product runs ever at 2 1/2 months before being discontinued!
>
> Soon it will be once you stand in line, it'll be obsolete by the time
> you get to the register.
Who says it's "obsolete" just because they're no longer selling it? 4G
is plenty, for many. For many, it's every bit as good as having the 8G
version.
Do you also cry when your computer becomes "obsolete" because newer and
faster machines are selling for less than what you paid for yours, even
though yours still works fine for the things you want to do?
- 09-09-2007, 02:39 PM #21B. WrightGuest
Re: Possible windfall for early buyers of the iPhone
In alt.cellular.cingular Oxford <[email protected]> wrote:
> "B. Peg" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > "Oxford" wrote:
> > >...
> > > But nobody in Europe has the ability to make highly advanced phones such
> > > as the iPhone, so it will quickly become the number 1 smart phone in
> > > europe and remain that way for decades. Apple just knows how to build
> > > products like no other company on the planet. Smaller, faster, lighter,
> > > better battery life, Apple will kill all the european phones in a matter
> > > of a year or so.
> >
> > Oh sure they will. I'll bet Nokia is just quaking in their boots.
> The CEO certainly is, they are going to try and roll out their Ovi music
> store to compete against apple but from what I've heard they can't get
> music rights, nor have the technical expertise to build huge multi-user
> download systems.
You're a funny guy(?) Oxford. Every time I see this reference to
no other place outside of the US having the "tecnichal expertise" to do x
or y, and also no other company other than Apple having the same, I have
to laugh. Are you really that naive or just blinded by being an Apple
fanboy? Obviously you haven't taken note of significant contributions
because you didn't want to, not because they haven't happened. If any
reason for them not being able to do this it is the music companies
putting up a blockade on the rights issue.
As for your previous comments about "Apple will kill all the
european phones in a matter of a year or so", riiiight. European phones
have outclassed the models available here for as long as I can remember,
we get the junk, and we get it behind schedule. Then, there is Japan,
have you heard of that country? If you talk to people there they'll
probably tell you the phones in Japan make even they Euro models look like
complete junk too.
- 09-09-2007, 03:06 PM #22OxfordGuest
Re: Possible windfall for early buyers of the iPhone
"B. Wright" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > The CEO certainly is, they are going to try and roll out their Ovi music
> > store to compete against apple but from what I've heard they can't get
> > music rights, nor have the technical expertise to build huge multi-user
> > download systems.
>
> You're a funny guy(?) Oxford. Every time I see this reference to
> no other place outside of the US having the "tecnichal expertise" to do x
> or y, and also no other company other than Apple having the same, I have
> to laugh. Are you really that naive or just blinded by being an Apple
> fanboy? Obviously you haven't taken note of significant contributions
> because you didn't want to, not because they haven't happened. If any
> reason for them not being able to do this it is the music companies
> putting up a blockade on the rights issue.
they why don't you illustrate to us a company that has successfully
built a Music Store outside the US? or even one "inside" the US for that
matter. I just look at facts, as boring as that can be sometimes.
> As for your previous comments about "Apple will kill all the
> european phones in a matter of a year or so", riiiight.
On the high end they certainly will. But sure the cheapy cell phones
have a few years left of life in them. But once an iPhone nano appears,
the game is over.
> European phones
> have outclassed the models available here for as long as I can remember,
> we get the junk, and we get it behind schedule. Then, there is Japan,
> have you heard of that country? If you talk to people there they'll
> probably tell you the phones in Japan make even they Euro models look like
> complete junk too.
Yes, but you are forgetting all that changed on June 29th, now, NO
japanese phone is up to par with the iPhone, it completely wipes out all
Japanese / Korean phones. (To be fair, on the high end) They simply
don't have the resources to make a OSX based phone that measures up to
the iPhone.
- 09-09-2007, 04:36 PM #23Steve de MenaGuest
Re: Possible windfall for early buyers of the iPhone
Oxford wrote:
> "B. Peg" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>> That's how it works nowadays - there's always something better around
>>> the corner. If you decide to never buy a tech product because
>>> something better will turn up soon, you'll never buy anything.
>> True, but at least I wouldn't be the owner of a product that has been
>> discontinued like Apple's 4gig iPhone. That has to be one of the shortest
>> product runs ever at 2 1/2 months before being discontinued!
>
> yes, but in the Apple world, Apple products are supported far longer
> than any other company does. Even Apple's 6 year old iPod is well
> supported to this day.
Boot Camp never supported my Firewire iSight camera.
Steve
- 09-09-2007, 05:06 PM #24Mark ThompsonGuest
Re: Possible windfall for early buyers of the iPhone
Steve de Mena <[email protected]> wrote:
> > yes, but in the Apple world, Apple products are supported far longer
> > than any other company does. Even Apple's 6 year old iPod is well
> > supported to this day.
>
> Boot Camp never supported my Firewire iSight camera.
the later builds do.
http://www.apple.com/macosx/bootcamp/
- 09-09-2007, 08:19 PM #25Steve de MenaGuest
Re: Possible windfall for early buyers of the iPhone
Mark Thompson wrote:
> Steve de Mena <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>> yes, but in the Apple world, Apple products are supported far longer
>>> than any other company does. Even Apple's 6 year old iPod is well
>>> supported to this day.
>> Boot Camp never supported my Firewire iSight camera.
>
> the later builds do.
>
> http://www.apple.com/macosx/bootcamp/
No they don't. I don't mean the built-in iSight camera.
I mean the FIREWIRE iSight camera. Exactly what I wrote.
Steve
- 09-09-2007, 10:10 PM #26OxfordGuest
Re: Possible windfall for early buyers of the iPhone
Steve de Mena <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>> yes, but in the Apple world, Apple products are supported far longer
> >>> than any other company does. Even Apple's 6 year old iPod is well
> >>> supported to this day.
> >> Boot Camp never supported my Firewire iSight camera.
> >
> > the later builds do.
> >
> > http://www.apple.com/macosx/bootcamp/
>
> No they don't. I don't mean the built-in iSight camera.
>
> I mean the FIREWIRE iSight camera. Exactly what I wrote.
then learn to read:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISight#External_iSight
- 09-10-2007, 04:34 AM #27KierGuest
Re: Possible windfall for early buyers of the iPhone
On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 06:24:55 -0400, Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
> In article
> <[email protected]>,
> Oxford <[email protected]> wrote:
>> The following link http://forum.parallels.com/showthread.php?p=57896 points
>> to a solution that works for Parallels 3188 (verified) and claims to work for
>> VMWare.
>
> Nowhere does it say anything about Boot Camp supporting the external
> Firewire iSight camera.
>
> You DO know what Boot Camp is, right? Among other things, it is a
> collection of Windows drivers for Apple hardware.
>
> And yet, that collection of drivers does NOT include one for the
> external Firewire iSight camera.
>
> So what ARE you talking about, anyway?
>
> You are such a fanboy that you make things up out of thin air.
To those of us who know Oxford, this is not a surprise. ;-)
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Kier
- 09-10-2007, 09:39 AM #28Steve de MenaGuest
Re: Possible windfall for early buyers of the iPhone
Oxford wrote:
> Steve de Mena <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>>>> yes, but in the Apple world, Apple products are supported far longer
>>>>> than any other company does. Even Apple's 6 year old iPod is well
>>>>> supported to this day.
>>>> Boot Camp never supported my Firewire iSight camera.
>>> the later builds do.
>>>
>>> http://www.apple.com/macosx/bootcamp/
>> No they don't. I don't mean the built-in iSight camera.
>>
>> I mean the FIREWIRE iSight camera. Exactly what I wrote.
>
> then learn to read:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISight#External_iSight
OK, I read it. Do I need to make my statement a third time??
Steve
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