Re: Breaking Rumor: Apple iPhone goes enterprise on Jan. 21

On Sun, 27 Jan 2008, Todd Allcock posted:
> Since Nokia is the worldwide leader in mobile phones, why haven't they just
> slapped an unlocked GSM phone module into the N800 and made an "N801"?

They wouldn't do it with the N800. It's not the right form factor for a
phone. They might do something like that with N810.

But I don't pretend to understand Nokia's marketing strategy for this
series. My impression is that N8x0 is a skunkworks effort that the rest
of Nokia doesn't really know what to do about.

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On 2008-01-29, Mark Crispin <mrc@Washington.EDU> wrote:

> I may be many things, but I don't aspire to deityhood (and it was I who
> gave the world IMAP...).

OT: I'd consider you a deity if you could convince a bunch of big email client
vendors like M$ to fix their IMAP client implementations.


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>
> http://panda.com/mrc
> Democracy is two wolves and a sheep deciding what to eat for lunch.
> Liberty is a well-armed sheep contesting the vote.


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On Sun, 27 Jan 2008, LoSebal posted:
>>> Does MAC OSX support remote desktop access?? I've never tried it to a
>>> MAC.
>> AFAIK, Mac has an rdesktop client but not a server.
> you might want to let apple know http://www.apple.com/remotedesktop/

I did say AFAIK.

I glanced through the specifications, and it seems to imply that this
expensive ($499) product is limited to Mac OS and VNC, and is not "remote
desktop" in the context that he asked.

For Windows remote desktop (which is part of every XP and Vista machine),
there are free clients for Windows, Mac OS, and N800.

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Democracy is two wolves and a sheep deciding what to eat for lunch.
Liberty is a well-armed sheep contesting the vote.

On Mon, 28 Jan 2008, larry posted:
> Not sure why you're using a browser to play music.

I'm referring to the default media player.

> Here, it's a tossup
> between Canola 2, which was just upgraded and is VERY iPhoney acting,
> and Kagu, which supports A2DP to my stereo BT headphones and scrobbling.

Neither Canola nor Kagu handle files with CJK characters.

> mplayer, the smallest and lightest weight interface plays the most movie
> formats, of all of them.

Yes, but it staggers too often. The easiest workaround is to use the free
converter on Windows to convert it to AVI format first.

> ATSC digital television is NEVER going to work in a moving vehicle.

The same problem exists for other digital TV systems as well. In Japan,
1seg (which unlike ATSC is specially designed for mobile use) works fine
when still, but as soon as the vehicle goes more than about 15 km/h it
starts dropping out (this is first-hand experience!).

So, don't believe the crackpots who claim that it's all because of ATSC
and other digital TV systems work fine. It's a general problem with
digital reception, but it will be ironed out in time. The newer 1seg
tuners work MUCH better than the older ones.

-- Mark --

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Democracy is two wolves and a sheep deciding what to eat for lunch.
Liberty is a well-armed sheep contesting the vote.

At 28 Jan 2008 16:28:46 -0800 Mark Crispin wrote:

> I may be many things, but I don't aspire to deityhood (and it was I
> who gave the world IMAP...).


Well, maybe not deity status, but two more miracles like IMAP should at
least quaify you for sainthood... ;-)

Mark Crispin <mrc@Washington.EDU> wrote in
news:alpine.OSX.1.00.0801281638540.29364@pangtzu.p anda.com:

> Yes, but it staggers too often. The easiest workaround is to use the
> free converter on Windows to convert it to AVI format first.
>
>

The staggering stops if you disconnect the BT or wifi connection so the
email and weather applets can't call home and put the tablet in a WAIT
state so long. I always shut down the internet connection when playing a
full avi movie from the 8GB SDHC cards.

I sure wish someone would write an AUDIO COMPANDER for it. I loaded a
movie I wanted to watch while eating alone at a restaurant, but the audio
on the movie was TOO LOW to hear and I forgot the headphones. There's just
NO OVERHEAD in the audio gain of phones and tablets. What use is a volume
control you must run wide open all the time to hear what you're playing. I
want a volume control you have to run at 25% to keep from rattling the
speakers....that leaves me room to turn it up on low audio recordings.

My Moto Z6m is the same way....dammit.

"larry" <noone@home.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9A33DBFE28B0Fnoonehomecom@208.49.80.253...
> Mark Crispin <mrc@Washington.EDU> wrote in
> news:alpine.OSX.1.00.0801281638540.29364@pangtzu.p anda.com:
>
>> Yes, but it staggers too often. The easiest workaround is to use the
>> free converter on Windows to convert it to AVI format first.
>>
>>
>
> The staggering stops if you disconnect the BT or wifi connection so the
> email and weather applets can't call home and put the tablet in a WAIT
> state so long. I always shut down the internet connection when playing a
> full avi movie from the 8GB SDHC cards.
>
> I sure wish someone would write an AUDIO COMPANDER for it. I loaded a
> movie I wanted to watch while eating alone at a restaurant, but the audio
> on the movie was TOO LOW to hear and I forgot the headphones. There's
> just
> NO OVERHEAD in the audio gain of phones and tablets. What use is a volume
> control you must run wide open all the time to hear what you're playing.
> I
> want a volume control you have to run at 25% to keep from rattling the
> speakers....that leaves me room to turn it up on low audio recordings.
>
> My Moto Z6m is the same way....dammit.
>

The iPhone is the same way. Cheap speakers built into the thing.

A friend returned his after less then a week. Battery life was the main
reason.

He fully charged it. Put it into standby for calls. Went to sleep.
Made a phone call which was 5 mins, Sent two SMS, Did a demo on it to his
friend for approx 20 mins. Made another phone call for 5 mins and the
battery loss more then 50% in a time of 14hours total. No wi-fi or
Bluetooth used. on the demo he did a utube video and showed him the maps and
the a few web sites.

What a shame. He liked it a lot, but can't be tied to a power cord after
that little bit of playing with it. I checked the settings and the screen
was only at 50% everything else was off.

I don't ever see this Improving. They can't install a larger battery. The
only way is to have a one that can be changed out by the user. But apple
can't or won't. They say it would add another 25% to the size of the thing.
And there not going to give up that cash cow.

"larry" <noone@home.com> wrote in message
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> "Kevin Weaver" <kevinkeithweaver@sbcglobal.net> wrote in
> news:Aixnj.1296$xq2.978@newssvr21.news.prodigy.net :
>
>> I don't ever see this Improving. They can't install a larger battery.
>> The only way is to have a one that can be changed out by the user. But
>> apple can't or won't. They say it would add another 25% to the size of
>> the thing. And there not going to give up that cash cow.
>>
>
> You make a good point. Not having a swappable battery pack is
> inexcuseable at this price level. The N800 takes a Nokia BP-5L 1300 maH
> Li-Ion they use in the phones that's readily available. I bought a used
> pullout from a recycler for $16 and shipping. It works as good as the
> main battery. I just wanted a spare in case this one died. With the
> display on full bright, BT to the keyboard and GPS and the wifi to the
> net, it will run about 4.5 hours. Turn the display down to half
> brightness and that extends the runtime to 7 hours. Standby is measured
> in days. I never shut it off, just plug it in at night and it charges
> in about 1.5 hours ready for more.
>
> I think my N800 would run longer if I didn't have two 8GB SDHC memory
> cards installed. If I pull out the "external" card, the runtime it
> reports goes up almost 2 more hours. I'm using Transcend 8GB cards (2
> so double the load currents). Model is TS8GSDHC6. Not the fastest
> speed card, but they just make the load worse. This is copied from the
> data sheet:
>
> ¡E Current Consumption
> The current consumption is measured by averaging over 1 second.
> ¡E Before first command: Maximum 15 mA
> ¡E During initialization: Maximum 100 mA
> ¡E Operation in Default Mode: Maximum 100 mA
> ¡E Operation in High Speed Mode: Maximum 200 mA
> ¡E Operation with other functions: Maximum 500 mA.
>
> Times 2 cards and this is a MAJOR part of the load current on the
> 1300maH battery pack! I bet the 8GB iPHone runs considerably longer
> than the 16GB. Mine does if I unplug a card. If runtime is more
> important, less memory helps a lot! Two cards doing "other functions",
> probably formatting fast, would draw ONE AMP plus what the tablet was
> using....not good. This is average currents....continuously as these
> cards run all the time. It's an issue with large memory cards on small
> phone batteries.
>
> But, of course, I gotta have it all...(c;
>
> 32GB SDHC cards are coming out.....soon.....


But he has to have a phone as well (GSM) I'm going to bet that apple will
get smart and add a battery door in the new ver. I could never have a phone
without a battery door. And to pay 80.00 for a 20.00 battery is nuts.

When he returned it today they told him they they wanted to send it to apple
to see if the battery needed to be replaced. (After 1 week of use) He told
them that he would not even take a new one. It's not going to last any
longer then this one correct ? They told him not likely.

He did tell me he liked it. He will buy another one when they put a battery
door on it. When I played with it the edge speed was less then half of my 3G
phone. But unless they add a battery door with the next ones that are to
have 3G It's going to be worse then these are now with EDGE.

Mark Crispin wrote:
>
> For Windows remote desktop (which is part of every XP and Vista
> machine), there are free clients for Windows, Mac OS, and N800.
>

Remote Desktop server is definitely not included in "every XP and Vista
machine." It's not included in XP Home and Vista Home Premium, for instance.


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Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
> In article <Xns9A33DBFE28B0Fnoonehomecom@208.49.80.253>,
> larry <noone@home.com> wrote:
>
>> I loaded a
>> movie I wanted to watch while eating alone at a restaurant,
>
> And the picture just keeps getting clearer and clearer.

C'mon, that one was a no-brainer. <g>


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"Tinman" <ask@for.it> wrote in message
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> Mark Crispin wrote:
>>
>> For Windows remote desktop (which is part of every XP and Vista
>> machine), there are free clients for Windows, Mac OS, and N800.
>>
>
> Remote Desktop server is definitely not included in "every XP and Vista
> machine." It's not included in XP Home and Vista Home Premium, for
> instance.

For Windows XP Home just use Windows Live Messenger / Actions.

Thurman wrote:
> "Tinman" <ask@for.it> wrote in message
> news:608qqsF1phvl1U1@mid.individual.net...
>> Mark Crispin wrote:
>>>
>>> For Windows remote desktop (which is part of every XP and Vista
>>> machine), there are free clients for Windows, Mac OS, and N800.
>>>
>>
>> Remote Desktop server is definitely not included in "every XP and
>> Vista machine." It's not included in XP Home and Vista Home Premium,
>> for instance.
>
> For Windows XP Home just use Windows Live Messenger / Actions.

That's client, not *server*. XP Home has had an RDP client since day-one.



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"Tinman" <ask@for.it> wrote in news:608qqsF1phvl1U1@mid.individual.net:

> Mark Crispin wrote:
>>
>> For Windows remote desktop (which is part of every XP and Vista
>> machine), there are free clients for Windows, Mac OS, and N800.
>>
>
> Remote Desktop server is definitely not included in "every XP and
> Vista machine." It's not included in XP Home and Vista Home Premium,
> for instance.
>
>

My powerful $499 Emachines has it with WinXP Media Edition, which I think
is the home edition with a player.

The upcoming Lotus Notes support is a baby-step in that direction.

Have you ever USED Notes? It's a cluster****. I've yet to find anyone
that
likes using it.


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Per jack57tin:
>The upcoming Lotus Notes support is a baby-step in that direction.
>
>Have you ever USED Notes? It's a cluster****. I've yet to find anyone
>that
>likes using it.

I had a brief career as a Lotus Notes developer.

From a developer's perspective I found Notes tb just plain
ugly.....
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