1.5 million unlocked iPhones?

Charles <[email protected]> amazed us all with the following in
news:140220082041380897%[email protected]:

> In article <[email protected]>, The Bob
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> In it's current version, yes. However, on October 18, 1993, Apple
>> introduced Macintosh TV, their first commercial attempt to integrate
>> computer and television functionality.
>
> That product had nothing to do with the current Apple TV product.
>

It was the first of many iterations and designs that led to the current
product.

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In article <[email protected]>, The Bob
<[email protected]> wrote:

> It was the first of many iterations and designs that led to the current
> product.

No it was not. It was a one off in 1993. The current product has
nothing to do with that one.

--
Charles

In article <[email protected]>, Ray
Goldenberg <[email protected]> wrote:

> It's at the same site that has references to extended GSM. You should
> be able to find that, John.
>
> So tell us again where that is?

Huh. This sounds just like posts from Elmo P. Shagnasty.

--
Charles

In message <[email protected]> "Tinman" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>The Bob wrote:
>>
>> I don't expect you to get it, John. We're dealing with a market
>> sector that you don't have any experience in, and factors of
>> corporate economics that you've never had to consider before. A
>> revenue leak of this size, while seemingly small in the big picture,
>> can have devastating effects on the overall performance of a company
>> the size of Apple, not to mention the negative light it casts them in
>> with investors.
>
>The real revenue leak was leaving money on the table, that they could have
>had by selling unlocked iPhones at a premium. That money

Indeed.

One option would be to bump up the price $300, and apply an automatic
$300 bill credit when you sign up. Waive the whole thing if the
customer activates in store.

Charles wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>, The Bob
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> It was the first of many iterations and designs that led to the
>> current product.
>
> No it was not. It was a one off in 1993. The current product has
> nothing to do with that one.

Of course not, as anyone with an IQ above room temperature could see. But
you are dealing with someone who has an obvious agenda, so don't expect to
get through.



--
Mike

The Bob wrote:
> Charles <[email protected]> amazed us all with the following in
> news:140220082041380897%[email protected]:
>
>> In article <[email protected]>, The Bob
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> In it's current version, yes. However, on October 18, 1993, Apple
>>> introduced Macintosh TV, their first commercial attempt to integrate
>>> computer and television functionality.
>> That product had nothing to do with the current Apple TV product.
>>
>
> It was the first of many iterations and designs that led to the current
> product.

Yeah, and the Newton was one of the iterations and designs that led to
the iPhone and iPod Touch.

At 14 Feb 2008 19:17:59 +0000 Larry wrote:

> I want to know where they are. Are they sold to dealers and sitting on a
> shelf, unsold, or are they online and being used.
>
> I eat out daily and do a lot of mall cruising, shopping, etc. Where are
> the iPhones? It's too big to hide.

How so? There are nearly 300,000,000 cellphones in use in the US, and
iPhones make up maybe 1% of that. So every 100th phone you see, on
average, should be an iPhone.

> But, here in Charleston, SC, I think
> I've stubled across less than a handful, less than a dozen, iPhones
> actually being used.

Or, about 12xthe number of N800s you've seen! ;-)

> According to all these glowing reports, they should
> be seen all over the place. They are simply NOT here. Did the Chinese
and
> Silicon Valley buy them all?
>
> Do your own survey. Watch all the sellphone users in restaurants, malls,
> bars, theatres, electronics stores, other hangouts. Spot all the iPhone
> users with that thing hanging on them. They are really hard to find in a
> GLUT of iPhones.


As would be expected for even a decent-selling $400 phone in aworld of free
phones. Rolex watches sell pretty well too, but you'll spot a lot of
Timexes in-between your Rolex sightings.


> I just don't see it, compared to other new phones that are in use all over.


Well, to be fair, you might see even less than 1-in-100 if your
unscientific survey is done in Waffle Houses and Ihops! ;-)


> I see LOTS less iPhones than I do Moto Q, Blackberrys, Treos, UTCs....

Again, the iPhone sells fewer than those do _in aggregate._ It's like
saying I see fewer green Subaru Legacys here in Colorado than I do Ford,
Chevy, Toyota and Honda 4-wheel drives.

I've seen less than a dozen iPhones in the wild. (Saw one today in Winter
Park, Colorado- that was probably my seventh or eighth.) That's still more
than I've seen of, say, either the Moto Q or my HTC Wizard(T-Mo MDA/AT&T
8125) in the two years they've been around, but far fewer than Blackberries
(in aggregate) or T-Mo Sidekicks (the pre-iPhone for the under 25-crowd.)

In article <[email protected]>, Todd Allcock
<[email protected]> wrote:

> I've seen less than a dozen iPhones in the wild. (Saw one today in Winter
> Park, Colorado- that was probably my seventh or eighth.) That's still more
> than I've seen of, say, either the Moto Q or my HTC Wizard(T-Mo MDA/AT&T
> 8125) in the two years they've been around, but far fewer than Blackberries
> (in aggregate) or T-Mo Sidekicks (the pre-iPhone for the under 25-crowd.)

If you take the train where 200 to 300 people are stationary for
several hours and easy to observe you can see a lot of phones.
Yesterday on a round trip between Washington and New York, up and back,
I saw about 25 iPhones. And of course many other phones each way. Of
the other phones there were a lot of Blackberries, for sure more in
aggregate in various versions than iPhones. A pretty good showing for
the iPhone.

--
Charles

Todd Allcock <[email protected]> amazed us all with the
following in news:[email protected]:

> At 14 Feb 2008 19:17:59 +0000 Larry wrote:
>
>> I want to know where they are. Are they sold to dealers and sitting
>> on a shelf, unsold, or are they online and being used.
>>
>> I eat out daily and do a lot of mall cruising, shopping, etc. Where
>> are the iPhones? It's too big to hide.
>
> How so? There are nearly 300,000,000 cellphones in use in the US,

More like about 225 million.

> and
> iPhones make up maybe 1% of that.

Not if you factor in the unlocked phones that have gone overseas- the
number is probably closer to 0.5%, or 1 in every 200.


And I have yet to see one in wild as well.