Will Cingular let me leave? WNP

Verizon has great phones and plans.... Cingular has one advantage, it owns
my cell phone number which I don't want to lose.

Verizon tells me it is ready for the Wireless Number Portability Act in late
nov, but Cingular will not be able (in all liklihood) to give up my number.
Is this true? Are they dragging their heels?


Anyone else wanting to jump ship from Cingular, but feel that they are going
to hold them hostage?

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Cingular can't hold you hostage, once the law goes into effect they are
REQUIRED to release it if you ask, or they face nasty penalties. Due to
logistics and technology issues they might stall a bit, but in the end they
have no choice but to give up your number. I suspect Verizon will be doing
the same as well. I, for one, have been very happy with Cingular, and no
company is perfect, so I hope you will be happier when you switch.

"Verizon User" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Verizon has great phones and plans.... Cingular has one advantage, it owns
> my cell phone number which I don't want to lose.
>
> Verizon tells me it is ready for the Wireless Number Portability Act in
late
> nov, but Cingular will not be able (in all liklihood) to give up my
number.
> Is this true? Are they dragging their heels?
>
>
> Anyone else wanting to jump ship from Cingular, but feel that they are
going
> to hold them hostage?
>
>
>

Cingular is already testing WLNP , verizon hasn't even gotten that far
yet...The folks at VZ are trying to get you all riled up when it comes
time you won't take any save offers Cingular presents to you...basically
VZ is LYING!

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Thanx,

N W


"Verizon User" <[email protected]> wrote in article
<[email protected]>:
> Verizon has great phones and plans.... Cingular has one advantage, it owns
> my cell phone number which I don't want to lose.
>
> Verizon tells me it is ready for the Wireless Number Portability Act in late
> nov, but Cingular will not be able (in all liklihood) to give up my number.
> Is this true? Are they dragging their heels?
>
>
> Anyone else wanting to jump ship from Cingular, but feel that they are going
> to hold them hostage?
>
>
>

[posted via phonescoop.com]

in order to port your number to another service you would need to be
contract free correct or just find them chaning your rates/plan
correct and then cancel and switch.

On 21 Sep 2003 11:50:21 -0700, [email protected] (Joe) wrote:

>in order to port your number to another service you would need to be
>contract free correct or just find them chaning your rates/plan
>correct and then cancel and switch.

Not true. You can switch and no carrier can hold you hostage. If
you're still under contract you will have to pay an early termination
fee if your carrier makes you keep your contract terms.

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I'd wait until this is an established procedure. You do have to give
them a month's notice (going by your sign up date), and then expect at
least one bill to arrive about a month after you stepped away. Save up
some money as you'll be facing both a bill from them and a bill from
Verizon. Other than that it should be a cake walk.
Please bear in mind that several Cingular customers switch back to a GSM
provider. Neither GSM or CDMA is going to be everywhere.

"Verizon User" <[email protected]> wrote in article
<[email protected]>:
> Verizon has great phones and plans.... Cingular has one advantage, it owns
> my cell phone number which I don't want to lose.
>
> Verizon tells me it is ready for the Wireless Number Portability Act in late
> nov, but Cingular will not be able (in all liklihood) to give up my number.
> Is this true? Are they dragging their heels?
>
>
> Anyone else wanting to jump ship from Cingular, but feel that they are going
> to hold them hostage?
>
>
>

[posted via phonescoop.com]

I don't trust Verizon for one reason. They seem to want to do nothing
but bash their competition. The guys in my area (and it seems like
your area too) do nothing but tell me all the bad things about
Cingular, Cricket, Sprint, and AT&T. Nothing about them however.

"Is this true?"

No it's not. Cingular just like everyone else is REQUIRED by the FCC
to be ready for WLNP by Nov. 24th. So long as the number you have with
Cingular is still in the same metro area as your new Verizon service,
you will be able to move your number. The drawback which seems to be
pinned solely on Cingular is the contract. No matter who you are with,
if you are under contract, you can't switch. It's not a ploy to hold
you hostage, just an agreement you made with them 1 or 2 years ago,
that you now have to fulfill.

Look at football players. They are under contract with a specific
team. Just because their team is last, and they are not getting the
amount of money they WANT (not talking about the amount in the
contract), they can't move to another team until their contract is up.
Same with anything else. You sign a contract you get fines for
breaking it.

I would wait until your contract is almost up. Then talk to Verizon if
that is where you want to go. Check out the postings here. I got a
press release from Cingular. It was a check list of things to watch
for when switching your service. This might help you to keep your
number and not pay any fees.

Hope that helps. No matter how bad the guy at Verizon talks about
Cingular, all the wireless companies are in the same boat. They all
have to comply by Nov. 24th and they all will. There are no "insider
Secrets" that say any of the companies will not be ready.

After all, if the all might Verizon is the only one ready to do the
WLNP, then who will they work with? No one else is ready.





"Verizon User" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> Verizon has great phones and plans.... Cingular has one advantage, it owns
> my cell phone number which I don't want to lose.
>
> Verizon tells me it is ready for the Wireless Number Portability Act in late
> nov, but Cingular will not be able (in all liklihood) to give up my number.
> Is this true? Are they dragging their heels?
>
>
> Anyone else wanting to jump ship from Cingular, but feel that they are going
> to hold them hostage?

everything i have read states that all major carriers are still trying
to fight wnp .. I called verizon abt switching my number in nov .. and
they told me all i ahve to do is call request it and process is all back
office .. no special fees .. no hurdles and hoops to jump through .. I
called cingular with the same question and got transferred 3 times b4 i
even got an answer at all .. so now maybe I won't be jumping the verizon
ship after all .. who cares about portability but .. i now am second
guessing leaving verizon bcause customer service knows their stuff!

--
80% of success is showing up!-- Woody Allen


[email protected] (Frederick) wrote in article
<[email protected]>:
> I don't trust Verizon for one reason. They seem to want to do nothing
> but bash their competition. The guys in my area (and it seems like
> your area too) do nothing but tell me all the bad things about
> Cingular, Cricket, Sprint, and AT&T. Nothing about them however.
>
> "Is this true?"
>
> No it's not. Cingular just like everyone else is REQUIRED by the FCC
> to be ready for WLNP by Nov. 24th. So long as the number you have with
> Cingular is still in the same metro area as your new Verizon service,
> you will be able to move your number. The drawback which seems to be
> pinned solely on Cingular is the contract. No matter who you are with,
> if you are under contract, you can't switch. It's not a ploy to hold
> you hostage, just an agreement you made with them 1 or 2 years ago,
> that you now have to fulfill.
>
> Look at football players. They are under contract with a specific
> team. Just because their team is last, and they are not getting the
> amount of money they WANT (not talking about the amount in the
> contract), they can't move to another team until their contract is up.
> Same with anything else. You sign a contract you get fines for
> breaking it.
>
> I would wait until your contract is almost up. Then talk to Verizon if
> that is where you want to go. Check out the postings here. I got a
> press release from Cingular. It was a check list of things to watch
> for when switching your service. This might help you to keep your
> number and not pay any fees.
>
> Hope that helps. No matter how bad the guy at Verizon talks about
> Cingular, all the wireless companies are in the same boat. They all
> have to comply by Nov. 24th and they all will. There are no "insider
> Secrets" that say any of the companies will not be ready.
>
> After all, if the all might Verizon is the only one ready to do the
> WLNP, then who will they work with? No one else is ready.
>
>
>
>
>
> "Verizon User" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> > Verizon has great phones and plans.... Cingular has one advantage, it owns
> > my cell phone number which I don't want to lose.
> >
> > Verizon tells me it is ready for the Wireless Number Portability Act in late
> > nov, but Cingular will not be able (in all liklihood) to give up my number.
> > Is this true? Are they dragging their heels?
> >
> >
> > Anyone else wanting to jump ship from Cingular, but feel that they are going
> > to hold them hostage?

[posted via phonescoop.com]

On 23 Sep 2003 09:46:20 -0700, [email protected]
(Frederick) wrote:

>The drawback which seems to be
>pinned solely on Cingular is the contract. No matter who you are with,
>if you are under contract, you can't switch. It's not a ploy to hold
>you hostage, just an agreement you made with them 1 or 2 years ago,
>that you now have to fulfill.

Not true. The regulations for WNP say that your number can be
switched even if you are in a contract. You will have to pay an ETF
however if your contract term is not met. Your wireless company
cannot hold you hostage.

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Sorry I knew that. Just didn't finish my thought. I meant to type the next
sentence of If you choose to leave before your contract is up, you will have
to pay a huge fee. That is true. You can leave any time you want. Just have
to pay a fee. But again, that is with any company. Even Verizion. Read the
fine print of the contract. There are fees you will have to pay if you
terminate the contract early.


"Group Special Mobile" <look@signature_to.reply> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On 23 Sep 2003 09:46:20 -0700, [email protected]
> (Frederick) wrote:
>
> >The drawback which seems to be
> >pinned solely on Cingular is the contract. No matter who you are with,
> >if you are under contract, you can't switch. It's not a ploy to hold
> >you hostage, just an agreement you made with them 1 or 2 years ago,
> >that you now have to fulfill.
>
> Not true. The regulations for WNP say that your number can be
> switched even if you are in a contract. You will have to pay an ETF
> however if your contract term is not met. Your wireless company
> cannot hold you hostage.
>
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Call them back and ask them point blank. Also tape your conversation with
them for future reference. Ask the point blank. "If I terminate my contract
before it expires, will I have to pay an early termination fee?" The answer
should be yes. It is in the fine print of the contract. Why do they do this?
I don't know, my guess is because they need to recover the cost of the phone
they gave you for free or a redused rate. The phones they give you for free
or $20.00 with the contract, would cost you 400.00 if you bought it on your
own.

The purpose of taping the conversation is so you have proof later. If the
customer service rep tells you no there is no ETF, then when they charge it
to you, there will be a taped phone coversation between you and Verizon
whereby they stated you would not get charged. I think the "No special fees"
they were refering to were no special fees to switch. You still have to
fulfill your contract though, or pay penalties.

"monica mitchell" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> everything i have read states that all major carriers are still trying
> to fight wnp .. I called verizon abt switching my number in nov .. and
> they told me all i ahve to do is call request it and process is all back
> office .. no special fees .. no hurdles and hoops to jump through .. I
> called cingular with the same question and got transferred 3 times b4 i
> even got an answer at all .. so now maybe I won't be jumping the verizon
> ship after all .. who cares about portability but .. i now am second
> guessing leaving verizon bcause customer service knows their stuff!
>
> --
> 80% of success is showing up!-- Woody Allen
>
>
> [email protected] (Frederick) wrote in article
> <[email protected]>:
> > I don't trust Verizon for one reason. They seem to want to do nothing
> > but bash their competition. The guys in my area (and it seems like
> > your area too) do nothing but tell me all the bad things about
> > Cingular, Cricket, Sprint, and AT&T. Nothing about them however.
> >
> > "Is this true?"
> >
> > No it's not. Cingular just like everyone else is REQUIRED by the FCC
> > to be ready for WLNP by Nov. 24th. So long as the number you have with
> > Cingular is still in the same metro area as your new Verizon service,
> > you will be able to move your number. The drawback which seems to be
> > pinned solely on Cingular is the contract. No matter who you are with,
> > if you are under contract, you can't switch. It's not a ploy to hold
> > you hostage, just an agreement you made with them 1 or 2 years ago,
> > that you now have to fulfill.
> >
> > Look at football players. They are under contract with a specific
> > team. Just because their team is last, and they are not getting the
> > amount of money they WANT (not talking about the amount in the
> > contract), they can't move to another team until their contract is up.
> > Same with anything else. You sign a contract you get fines for
> > breaking it.
> >
> > I would wait until your contract is almost up. Then talk to Verizon if
> > that is where you want to go. Check out the postings here. I got a
> > press release from Cingular. It was a check list of things to watch
> > for when switching your service. This might help you to keep your
> > number and not pay any fees.
> >
> > Hope that helps. No matter how bad the guy at Verizon talks about
> > Cingular, all the wireless companies are in the same boat. They all
> > have to comply by Nov. 24th and they all will. There are no "insider
> > Secrets" that say any of the companies will not be ready.
> >
> > After all, if the all might Verizon is the only one ready to do the
> > WLNP, then who will they work with? No one else is ready.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Verizon User" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:<[email protected]>...
> > > Verizon has great phones and plans.... Cingular has one advantage, it
owns
> > > my cell phone number which I don't want to lose.
> > >
> > > Verizon tells me it is ready for the Wireless Number Portability Act
in late
> > > nov, but Cingular will not be able (in all liklihood) to give up my
number.
> > > Is this true? Are they dragging their heels?
> > >
> > >
> > > Anyone else wanting to jump ship from Cingular, but feel that they are
going
> > > to hold them hostage?
>
> [posted via phonescoop.com]

On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 21:20:07 -0700, "Frederick Claus"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Sorry I knew that. Just didn't finish my thought. I meant to type the next
>sentence of If you choose to leave before your contract is up, you will have
>to pay a huge fee. That is true. You can leave any time you want. Just have
>to pay a fee. But again, that is with any company. Even Verizion. Read the
>fine print of the contract. There are fees you will have to pay if you
>terminate the contract early.

Sorry, my mind reading skills aren't all that good.

>
>"Group Special Mobile" <look@signature_to.reply> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> On 23 Sep 2003 09:46:20 -0700, [email protected]
>> (Frederick) wrote:
>>
>> >The drawback which seems to be
>> >pinned solely on Cingular is the contract. No matter who you are with,
>> >if you are under contract, you can't switch. It's not a ploy to hold
>> >you hostage, just an agreement you made with them 1 or 2 years ago,
>> >that you now have to fulfill.
>>
>> Not true. The regulations for WNP say that your number can be
>> switched even if you are in a contract. You will have to pay an ETF
>> however if your contract term is not met. Your wireless company
>> cannot hold you hostage.
>>
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>

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On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 21:26:58 -0700, "Frederick Claus"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>The purpose of taping the conversation is so you have proof later.

Illegally taped telephone conversations will certainly go a long way
in a court of law.

You must inform the other party of your intent to tape the conversation.

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Thanx,

N W


^'^BatAttaK^'^ <[email protected]> wrote in article
<[email protected]>:
> On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 21:26:58 -0700, "Frederick Claus"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >The purpose of taping the conversation is so you have proof later.
>
> Illegally taped telephone conversations will certainly go a long way
> in a court of law.
>
>

[posted via phonescoop.com]

Here is a point to think about.

DO YOU LIVE IN THE TOP 100 MARKET(S)????

IF NOT, YOU CANT TAKE YOUR NUMBER UNTIL MARCH-MAY (forgot the month)

Many people are forgetting this little tidbit of info.

Only top 100 markets are required to comply with the new law. The rest
must wait.



On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 13:38:09 GMT, "Verizon User" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Verizon has great phones and plans.... Cingular has one advantage, it owns
>my cell phone number which I don't want to lose.
>
>Verizon tells me it is ready for the Wireless Number Portability Act in late
>nov, but Cingular will not be able (in all liklihood) to give up my number.
>Is this true? Are they dragging their heels?
>
>
>Anyone else wanting to jump ship from Cingular, but feel that they are going
>to hold them hostage?
>
>