GAIT SIM in GSM phone

Why can't i use the SIM card from my 6340i in the Sony Ericsson T616 i
picked up yesterday from the cingular store? i was under the impression
this was possible. i ended up having to leave the store purchasing a new
sim card and losing all my TDMA and AMPS coverage. This puts me back in
the same situation i was in when i first got a cell phone 8 or 9 years
ago. all i really wanted was to be able to use the t616 while in the
metro area, and taking the nokia with me when i'm traveling, swapping
the SIM cards depending on which phone fit the occasion. Anyone have any
experience with this? Thanks for any advice.

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I think you stated the reasons why: TDMA and AMPS-not involved in GSM
only phones.

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Chris

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Cambie <[email protected]> wrote in article
<[email protected]>:
> Why can't i use the SIM card from my 6340i in the Sony Ericsson T616 i
> picked up yesterday from the cingular store? i was under the impression
> this was possible. i ended up having to leave the store purchasing a new
> sim card and losing all my TDMA and AMPS coverage. This puts me back in
> the same situation i was in when i first got a cell phone 8 or 9 years
> ago. all i really wanted was to be able to use the t616 while in the
> metro area, and taking the nokia with me when i'm traveling, swapping
> the SIM cards depending on which phone fit the occasion. Anyone have any
> experience with this? Thanks for any advice.
>

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Did you make it clear to them that you wanted to retain your GAIT phone
& capacities? Did you surrender your GAIT phone or its' SIM? Do you
want both phones? Are you willing to run two contracts? Call customer
services. The folks at the service stores usually don't know squat, and
they can only go as far as they are authorized with any given contract.
I got my GAIT phones from Cingular's Nashville center- for me it is a
major upgrade. What limitations did you set on your service?
As the first person stated the second phone is not a GAIT phone, so it
could not live up to the expectations of a GAIT contract. While some
folks say you can use a GAIT SIM in a regular GSM phone I will not
recommend it. Your SIM chip software will tell your phone software to
go fetch a service it cannot handle- the end result will be no service.
As a temp back up that's okay. But some folks do it long term and then
complain if they develop problems.

Cambie <[email protected]> wrote in article
<[email protected]>:
> Why can't i use the SIM card from my 6340i in the Sony Ericsson T616 i
> picked up yesterday from the cingular store? i was under the impression
> this was possible. i ended up having to leave the store purchasing a new
> sim card and losing all my TDMA and AMPS coverage. This puts me back in
> the same situation i was in when i first got a cell phone 8 or 9 years
> ago. all i really wanted was to be able to use the t616 while in the
> metro area, and taking the nokia with me when i'm traveling, swapping
> the SIM cards depending on which phone fit the occasion. Anyone have any
> experience with this? Thanks for any advice.
>

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"Cambie" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news[email protected]...
> Why can't i use the SIM card from my 6340i in the Sony Ericsson T616 i
> picked up yesterday from the cingular store? i was under the impression
> this was possible. i ended up having to leave the store purchasing a new
> sim card and losing all my TDMA and AMPS coverage. This puts me back in
> the same situation i was in when i first got a cell phone 8 or 9 years
> ago. all i really wanted was to be able to use the t616 while in the
> metro area, and taking the nokia with me when i'm traveling, swapping
> the SIM cards depending on which phone fit the occasion. Anyone have any
> experience with this? Thanks for any advice.
>

You can use your GAIT sim from your Nokia 6340i in another GSM only phone.
Not sure why you got another sim, yours is fine.

Chris Russell wrote:
> I think you stated the reasons why: TDMA and AMPS-not involved in GSM
> only phones.
>

Obviously when i am using the T616 i won't have any TDMA or AMPS
coverage, but what i am wanting is to still be able to use my 6340i for
areas where there is only TDMA or AMPS and no GSM. Essentially, I want
to be able to pick and choose which phone i want to use when i leave the
house in the morning and only have to stick the SIM card in the phone i
choose and be off. The way I understood GSM, i thought i'd be able to
get the T616 and just stick the SIM card from my 6340i in the T616 and
it would work, without anyone having to even pull up my account info,
much less change my plan.

James wrote:

> "Cambie" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news[email protected]...
>
>>Why can't i use the SIM card from my 6340i in the Sony Ericsson T616 i
>>picked up yesterday from the cingular store? i was under the impression
>>this was possible. i ended up having to leave the store purchasing a new
>>sim card and losing all my TDMA and AMPS coverage. This puts me back in
>>the same situation i was in when i first got a cell phone 8 or 9 years
>>ago. all i really wanted was to be able to use the t616 while in the
>>metro area, and taking the nokia with me when i'm traveling, swapping
>>the SIM cards depending on which phone fit the occasion. Anyone have any
>>experience with this? Thanks for any advice.
>>
>
>
> You can use your GAIT sim from your Nokia 6340i in another GSM only phone.
> Not sure why you got another sim, yours is fine.
>
>
i thought that too, except that the T616 wouldn't accept it. I thought
i'd be able to open the box of the GSM only phone, pop in my 6340i SIM,
and be ready to go. The 616 wouldn't accept it though. Then they weren't
able to get the old SIM switched over to GSM only, so I had to buy a new
SIM card.

I've read here a number of problems with the 6340i SIM card in GSM only
phones. The only logical conclusion is that the 6340i SIM contains all
the TDMA and AMPS info which screws a GSM only phone. The 6340i will
not operate at all without it's Sim card.

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Chris

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Cambie <[email protected]> wrote in article
<[email protected]>:
> Chris Russell wrote:
> > I think you stated the reasons why: TDMA and AMPS-not involved in GSM
> > only phones.
> >
>
> Obviously when i am using the T616 i won't have any TDMA or AMPS
> coverage, but what i am wanting is to still be able to use my 6340i for
> areas where there is only TDMA or AMPS and no GSM. Essentially, I want
> to be able to pick and choose which phone i want to use when i leave the
> house in the morning and only have to stick the SIM card in the phone i
> choose and be off. The way I understood GSM, i thought i'd be able to
> get the T616 and just stick the SIM card from my 6340i in the T616 and
> it would work, without anyone having to even pull up my account info,
> much less change my plan.
>

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"Chris Russell" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I've read here a number of problems with the 6340i SIM card in GSM only
> phones. The only logical conclusion is that the 6340i SIM contains all
> the TDMA and AMPS info which screws a GSM only phone. The 6340i will
> not operate at all without it's Sim card.
>
> --
> Chris
>
> Please respond on Usenet or Phonescoop.com
>
>
> Cambie <[email protected]> wrote in article
> <[email protected]>:
> > Chris Russell wrote:
> > > I think you stated the reasons why: TDMA and AMPS-not involved in GSM
> > > only phones.
> > >
> >
> > Obviously when i am using the T616 i won't have any TDMA or AMPS
> > coverage, but what i am wanting is to still be able to use my 6340i for
> > areas where there is only TDMA or AMPS and no GSM. Essentially, I want
> > to be able to pick and choose which phone i want to use when i leave the
> > house in the morning and only have to stick the SIM card in the phone i
> > choose and be off. The way I understood GSM, i thought i'd be able to
> > get the T616 and just stick the SIM card from my 6340i in the T616 and
> > it would work, without anyone having to even pull up my account info,
> > much less change my plan.
> >
>
> [posted via phonescoop.com]

I've used my Nokia 6340i's GAIT sim in a Nokia 5190, and made a test call
over T-Mobile. Cingular uses 800 MHz in Memphis, and I have Preferred Nation
plan. The 5190 will get a longer test when I'm in a Cingular 1900 MHz GSM
area, like Knoxville or Dyersburg, TN.

The problems seem to arise when using the GAIT sim in a 1900 MHz phone, in
a 800 MHz Cingular area. You're not on Cingular any more.

John C.

well cambie, i myself have a gait phone, and i work for cingular, so i
can use all of the gsm phones i want, i frequently put my gait sim into
gsm phones and i have never had a problem.

Cambie <[email protected]> wrote in article
<[email protected]>:
> Chris Russell wrote:
> > I think you stated the reasons why: TDMA and AMPS-not involved in GSM
> > only phones.
> >
>
> Obviously when i am using the T616 i won't have any TDMA or AMPS
> coverage, but what i am wanting is to still be able to use my 6340i for
> areas where there is only TDMA or AMPS and no GSM. Essentially, I want
> to be able to pick and choose which phone i want to use when i leave the
> house in the morning and only have to stick the SIM card in the phone i
> choose and be off. The way I understood GSM, i thought i'd be able to
> get the T616 and just stick the SIM card from my 6340i in the T616 and
> it would work, without anyone having to even pull up my account info,
> much less change my plan.
>

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Here's what happend to me, my GSM worked with my GAIT SIM when before the
network went live. My GSM was 900/1800/1900. When the system went live on
Monday that phone stopped working on Cingular's system. Now I find I need to
buy a 850 GSM phone.

I had my GAIT SIM replaced by a new GSM SIM. My T68i won't work now, but the
GAIT phone still works, but only on GSM now.

Does any of that make sense?

"brad v" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> well cambie, i myself have a gait phone, and i work for cingular, so i
> can use all of the gsm phones i want, i frequently put my gait sim into
> gsm phones and i have never had a problem.
>
> Cambie <[email protected]> wrote in article
> <[email protected]>:
> > Chris Russell wrote:
> > > I think you stated the reasons why: TDMA and AMPS-not involved in GSM
> > > only phones.
> > >
> >
> > Obviously when i am using the T616 i won't have any TDMA or AMPS
> > coverage, but what i am wanting is to still be able to use my 6340i for
> > areas where there is only TDMA or AMPS and no GSM. Essentially, I want
> > to be able to pick and choose which phone i want to use when i leave the
> > house in the morning and only have to stick the SIM card in the phone i
> > choose and be off. The way I understood GSM, i thought i'd be able to
> > get the T616 and just stick the SIM card from my 6340i in the T616 and
> > it would work, without anyone having to even pull up my account info,
> > much less change my plan.
> >
>
> [posted via phonescoop.com]

No. I've heard of problems putting a GSM only SIM in a GAIT phone, but the
opposite is supposed to work perfectly.
Stu

"Scott" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:KHMcb.16901$a16.7347@lakeread01...
> Here's what happend to me, my GSM worked with my GAIT SIM when before the
> network went live. My GSM was 900/1800/1900. When the system went live on
> Monday that phone stopped working on Cingular's system. Now I find I need
to
> buy a 850 GSM phone.
>
> I had my GAIT SIM replaced by a new GSM SIM. My T68i won't work now, but
the
> GAIT phone still works, but only on GSM now.
>
> Does any of that make sense?
>
> "brad v" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > well cambie, i myself have a gait phone, and i work for cingular, so i
> > can use all of the gsm phones i want, i frequently put my gait sim into
> > gsm phones and i have never had a problem.
> >
> > Cambie <[email protected]> wrote in article
> > <[email protected]>:
> > > Chris Russell wrote:
> > > > I think you stated the reasons why: TDMA and AMPS-not involved in
GSM
> > > > only phones.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Obviously when i am using the T616 i won't have any TDMA or AMPS
> > > coverage, but what i am wanting is to still be able to use my 6340i
for
> > > areas where there is only TDMA or AMPS and no GSM. Essentially, I want
> > > to be able to pick and choose which phone i want to use when i leave
the
> > > house in the morning and only have to stick the SIM card in the phone
i
> > > choose and be off. The way I understood GSM, i thought i'd be able to
> > > get the T616 and just stick the SIM card from my 6340i in the T616 and
> > > it would work, without anyone having to even pull up my account info,
> > > much less change my plan.
> > >
> >
> > [posted via phonescoop.com]
>
>