new cellular license maps available online

The Drifter wrote:
> OK I really don't understand the maps, So please bare with me and help
> thanks.
>
> I live in FL and took a look at that area on the maps for 'B' side, it
> shows central west cost as ALLTEL [yellow zone] I have Verizon as my
> carrier with a LG VX4400 phone, so what does this map tell me? Am I
> actually using alltel's network and not verizon's? or does this only
> mean for analog [amps] service? The phone is a tri-mode phone, and is
> usually always getting a 1x signal on it's display, I believe that
> means PCS service.
>
> Thanks is advnace for your help.
>

These maps just show the cellular licenses. Cell phones also use PCS
licenses. Sprint only uses PCS licenses - and thus you won't see them
on any of those maps. Verizon uses mostly regular cellular liceses, but
in some places (like Florida, Texas, and Wisconsin) they use a PCS
license, so they aren't reflected on the Florida map.

Rich

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>Subject: Re: new cellular license maps available online
>From: [email protected] (XFF)
>Date: 10/14/2003 4:17 PM Eastern Daylight Time
>Message-id: <[email protected]>
>
>[email protected] (Jeff Ream) wrote in message
>news:<[email protected]>...
>
>> will we ever be able to see more than A&B?
>
>What else would you like to see?
>
>
>
>
>
>


Jeff Ream
"I'm the drummer your guard captain warned you about"

On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 11:06:15 GMT, "Real Estate Agent"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Awesome! I want to buy stock in Farmers Wireless. [GA/TENN, B-Side map.]

Move to the Sand Mountain area of Alabama or buy property there and
you can (sort of) -- Farmers Wireless is owned by Farmers Telephone
Co-Op, the local landline provider in much of Farmers Wireless's
license area and one of the largest telephone co-ops in the US.

Three small carriers in Tennessee (Advantage Cellular, Yorkville
Communications, and Eloqui Wireless), and one in NC (Carolina West),
are partly or wholly owned by other telephone co-ops.

BTW, I've long had maps showing who has coverage where in the
Southeast on my site (www.sewireless.info), but I never broke them
down into license area like XFF did (my maps are based on SIDs and
switch coverage areas, not licenses per se.)

-SC
--
Stanley Cline -- sc1 at roamer1 dot org -- http://www.roamer1.org/
....
"Never put off until tomorrow what you can do today. There might
be a law against it by that time." -/usr/games/fortune

XFF wrote:
> [email protected]pamthis (Jeff Ream) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
>
>
>>will we ever be able to see more than A&B?
>
>
> What else would you like to see?

I'm guessing he wants to see the different PCS bands. Of course, those
are not considered "cellular" (800 mHz).

AD

The Drifter wrote:
> OK I really don't understand the maps, So please bare with me and help
> thanks.
>
> I live in FL and took a look at that area on the maps for 'B' side, it
> shows central west cost as ALLTEL [yellow zone] I have Verizon as my
> carrier with a LG VX4400 phone, so what does this map tell me? Am I
> actually using alltel's network and not verizon's? or does this only
> mean for analog [amps] service? The phone is a tri-mode phone, and is
> usually always getting a 1x signal on it's display, I believe that
> means PCS service.
>

1x simply means CDMA 1xRTT, updated CDMA that's basically getting ready
for high speed access. 1x can come in both cellular (800) and PCS
(1900) areas. I have 1x via Verizon Wireless in the B-side in my market.

AD

> These maps just show the cellular licenses. Cell phones also use PCS
> licenses. Sprint only uses PCS licenses - and thus you won't see them
> on any of those maps. Verizon uses mostly regular cellular liceses, but
> in some places (like Florida, Texas, and Wisconsin) they use a PCS
> license, so they aren't reflected on the Florida map.
>
> Rich
>

Here is just a simple question that I have never thought of before. How
many bands are in the 800 mHz frequency? I always thought there were
only spectrum licences for A and B. However, in my market, there is A
side run by Western Wireless d/b/a CellularOne, and B side run by
CommNet Cellular Partnership LLC d/b/a Verizon Wireless. However, there
is also Extend America "Powered by Nextel" that will also be going live
anytime now. I was wondering, how do the spectrum licenses work for
Nextel? If I'm not mistaken, Nextel's iDEN network is in the 800 mHz band.

TIA

AD

Terrific work! Thank you very much. It's great to have this graphic
support when dealing with travel/roaming needs--not to mention the
fact that it is a great tool to help look ahead at developing
coverage.

Thanks, again.

US Cellular sold it's A-Side cellular licenses in FL and Southern GA to
AT&T.


"XFF" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> http://people.ku.edu/~cinema/wireless/regions.html
>
> There are now 7 regions available for your browsing pleasure. The
> Southeast region (AR/LA/MS/AL/SC/GA/FL) just went online today. As
> always, corrections and comments are welcome. (You don't need to
> comment on the trade of FL/GA A-side markets from USCC to ATTWS.
> We're well aware of this issue and will update the A-side map once the
> two carriers reflect the change on their web sites.)
>
> PS: Work on the Midatlantic maps (TN/NC/KY/VA/WV/MD/DE) has begun and
> they should be available within a couple of weeks.

About Dakota wrote:
>> These maps just show the cellular licenses. Cell phones also use PCS
>> licenses. Sprint only uses PCS licenses - and thus you won't see them
>> on any of those maps. Verizon uses mostly regular cellular liceses,
>> but in some places (like Florida, Texas, and Wisconsin) they use a PCS
>> license, so they aren't reflected on the Florida map.
>>
>> Rich
>>
>
> Here is just a simple question that I have never thought of before. How
> many bands are in the 800 mHz frequency? I always thought there were
> only spectrum licences for A and B. However, in my market, there is A
> side run by Western Wireless d/b/a CellularOne, and B side run by
> CommNet Cellular Partnership LLC d/b/a Verizon Wireless. However, there
> is also Extend America "Powered by Nextel" that will also be going live
> anytime now. I was wondering, how do the spectrum licenses work for
> Nextel? If I'm not mistaken, Nextel's iDEN network is in the 800 mHz band.
>
> TIA
>
> AD
>

There is more space in the whole 800 mHz band than just the cellular
frequences. Nextel uses the SMR band to run their phones.

Rich

Can you briefly explain "A" Side, "B" Side?

TIA,
B

On 13 Oct 2003 22:07:50 -0700, [email protected] (XFF) wrote:

>http://people.ku.edu/~cinema/wireless/regions.html
>
>There are now 7 regions available for your browsing pleasure. The
>Southeast region (AR/LA/MS/AL/SC/GA/FL) just went online today. As
>always, corrections and comments are welcome. (You don't need to
>comment on the trade of FL/GA A-side markets from USCC to ATTWS.
>We're well aware of this issue and will update the A-side map once the
>two carriers reflect the change on their web sites.)
>
>PS: Work on the Midatlantic maps (TN/NC/KY/VA/WV/MD/DE) has begun and
>they should be available within a couple of weeks.

Unfortuneately there is always an asshole in every group!


On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:20:31 -0000, [email protected] (Tom Z) wrote:

>What a stupid website. Thanks for wasting my time. That thing looks
>like something from AOL's hometown website server.
>
>
>
>[posted via phonescoop.com]

"About Dakota" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...

> Here is just a simple question that I have never thought of before. How
> many bands are in the 800 mHz frequency? I always thought there were
> only spectrum licences for A and B. However, in my market, there is A
> side run by Western Wireless d/b/a CellularOne, and B side run by
> CommNet Cellular Partnership LLC d/b/a Verizon Wireless. However, there
> is also Extend America "Powered by Nextel" that will also be going live
> anytime now. I was wondering, how do the spectrum licenses work for
> Nextel? If I'm not mistaken, Nextel's iDEN network is in the 800 mHz
band.
>
> TIA
>
> AD
>

806 to 809.75 is specilized mobile radio. 809-816 is a mess of interleaved
business radio, public safety, industrual radio, and SMR. SMR and public
safety each get 70 channels in within that range. 816 to 821 is "Upper 200
SMR". Nearly everything other than public safety radio in the 800 range is
licensed by Nextel. Cellular starts at 824 with A side.

Then, there's a repeat of everything for the downlink side, starting at 851
mhz. There is a little bit of Ground to Air, but I don't know the use of
that, from 849 mhz to 851 mhz.

So you have:
General SMR (Nextel)
Public safety
BILT (Nextel)
Upper 200 SMR (Nextel)
Ground to Air
Cellular A
Cellular B

There might be more than that too, as I think there some stuff above 880.

Hopper

"Arthur Dent" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> US Cellular sold it's A-Side cellular licenses in FL and Southern GA to
> AT&T.
>
>
> "XFF" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > http://people.ku.edu/~cinema/wireless/regions.html
> >
> > There are now 7 regions available for your browsing pleasure. The
> > Southeast region (AR/LA/MS/AL/SC/GA/FL) just went online today. As
> > always, corrections and comments are welcome. (You don't need to
> > comment on the trade of FL/GA A-side markets from USCC to ATTWS.
> > We're well aware of this issue and will update the A-side map once the
> > two carriers reflect the change on their web sites.)
> >
> > PS: Work on the Midatlantic maps (TN/NC/KY/VA/WV/MD/DE) has begun and
> > they should be available within a couple of weeks.

Did you read what you quoted?

[email protected] (Tom Z) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> What a stupid website. Thanks for wasting my time. That thing looks
> like something from AOL's hometown website server.
>
>
>
> [posted via phonescoop.com]



You're a turd... what have you ever done? I think these maps are
actually fairly useful!

-Tom

The Drifter <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...

> I live in FL and took a look at that area on the maps for 'B' side, it
> shows central west cost as ALLTEL [yellow zone] I have Verizon as my
> carrier with a LG VX4400 phone, so what does this map tell me? Am I
> actually using alltel's network and not verizon's? or does this only
> mean for analog [amps] service? The phone is a tri-mode phone, and is
> usually always getting a 1x signal on it's display, I believe that
> means PCS service.

In the US, commercial mobile telephony serivce is licensed to operate
in 3 different bands of the spectrum: SMR, cellular, and PCS. The
maps I'm creating only reflect cellular licenses. Your phone is also
capable of operating in the PCS band. There are 2 cellular licenses
and 6 PCS licenses in any given area. Commercial SMR service is
pretty much monopolized by Nextel. For more detailed information on
the various bands see http://tk.com/wireless/.

In your case, VZW has a built-out PCS license (B-band) in your market
(see http://people.ku.edu/~cinema/wireles...pcs_block.html), so
according to the priority set by the PRL, your phone will prefer the
VZW PCS service. If that's not available it would choose the ALLTEL
B-side cellular service next, and if that's not available it would
choose the ATTWS A-side cellular service (see
http://www.justalurker.com).