Re: How will phone number portability affect cell phone rates?

Rex wrote:
>
> Any thoughts on the above topic?
>
> I'm currently in the market for a new carrier, and rates seem to have gone
> down. I guess carriers are trying to lock people in before the number
> portability ruling goes into effect next month.
>
> Do you guys expect another price war after its implemented?
>
> Rex

The carriers are always competing. The next "price wars" will
be during the Christmas holidays, that's when they will battle
for your business. I have had most of the carriers at one
time or another .... and some aren't worth having.

ATT: I have them currently - fair to good. (8pm non-prime plan)

Cingular: Coverage wasn't that good; kept losing the signal

NEXTEL: Problems at the switch (phone co.) and the phone didn't
always ring. Direct connect worked very well.

SPRINT-PCS: Probably the worst experience in my life!

VERIZON: Never had service -- but I'm interested.

VOICESTREAM: Who are they?

(KM)

poboxdc@ix.netcom.com wrote:

> Rex wrote:
> VOICESTREAM: Who are they?

Rebranded as T-Mobile
http://www.voicestream.com/

<poboxdc@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
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> Do you guys expect another price war after its implemented?
>
> Rex

The projected losers in LNP will likely be in a price war to
keep customers.

The projected winners probably will avoid a price war, as
it is not in their best interest.

I think that a lot of subscribers have matured and that they no
longer look only at price, since so many have been burned by
the carriers with lousy coverage (at least this applies to me and
many colleagues and relatives).

I have two relatives waiting for November 24th to dump AT&T
and move to Verizon, even though Verizon is more expensive.
One is actually happy with AT&T TDMA, the other has no signal
at all at her house in the East Bay (SF Bay Area), and they share
a plan so both will switch.

> I think that a lot of subscribers have matured and that they no
> longer look only at price, since so many have been burned by
> the carriers with lousy coverage (at least this applies to me and
> many colleagues and relatives).

You know, it's funny, but I'll bet 99 percent of cell phone users overall,
make 99 percent of their calls within their own metro city and hardly notice
the lousy coverage of some carriers outside of a metro area.

-Frank

"Frank S" <Frank@REMOVEALLCAPSitcreek.com> wrote in message
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> > I think that a lot of subscribers have matured and that they no
> > longer look only at price, since so many have been burned by
> > the carriers with lousy coverage (at least this applies to me and
> > many colleagues and relatives).
>
> You know, it's funny, but I'll bet 99 percent of cell phone users overall,
> make 99 percent of their calls within their own metro city and hardly
notice
> the lousy coverage of some carriers outside of a metro area.
>
> -Frank
>
>

You just described T-Mobile's business model.

Tom Veldhouse

"Frank S" <Frank@REMOVEALLCAPSitcreek.com> wrote in message
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> > I think that a lot of subscribers have matured and that they no
> > longer look only at price, since so many have been burned by
> > the carriers with lousy coverage (at least this applies to me and
> > many colleagues and relatives).
>
> You know, it's funny, but I'll bet 99 percent of cell phone users overall,
> make 99 percent of their calls within their own metro city and hardly
notice
> the lousy coverage of some carriers outside of a metro area.

Perhaps, but in large metro areas coverage is inconsistent throughout
the area, and people do travel throughout the area. I.e. in my area,
Verizon and AT&T TDMA have the best coverage by far, Cingular,
T-Mobile, Sprint, Nextel, and AT&T GSM, the worst. But in each
case you could find a location in the metro area where even the
carriers with the worst coverage are okay, and you can find areas
that the best carriers don't cover. I have only found one place
where my Verizon phone can't at least get an analog signal--
the East Palo Alto Ikea.

"Thomas T. Veldhouse" <veldy71@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> You just described T-Mobile's business model.

Where I live, T-Mobile has lousy service inside the metro area too. They
are piggybacking on Cingular's GSM network, and Cingular also has poor
coverage of course.

On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 17:37:04 -0500, poboxdc@ix.netcom.com wrote:

>The carriers are always competing. The next "price wars" will
>be during the Christmas holidays, that's when they will battle
>for your business. I have had most of the carriers at one
>time or another .... and some aren't worth having.
>
>ATT: I have them currently - fair to good. (8pm non-prime plan)
>
>Cingular: Coverage wasn't that good; kept losing the signal
>
>NEXTEL: Problems at the switch (phone co.) and the phone didn't
>always ring. Direct connect worked very well.
>
>SPRINT-PCS: Probably the worst experience in my life!
>
>VERIZON: Never had service -- but I'm interested.
>
>VOICESTREAM: Who are they?

If you've had them all why are you asking who they are? VoiceStream
doesn't exist anymore anyway. You really need to keep up.

And you do realize that your opinion is valuable to someone. You just
need to find out who that someone is.

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Well living in the hicks north of SF I live near Fairfield only three
companies work great here which is AT&T, Nextel and Verizon. Anything base
as GSM like t mobile or cingluar. only if you going to spending most of the
time near the freeway then I would think about getting one of those
services. I was a sprint customer but it got to the point where I was
sounding like the guy in the Verizon commercial and kept tell the person "
can you hear me now?" so it got to the point where I could not trust sprint
anymore. I am a happy Nextel customer since 1995 and it got better since
then but if I was not for the two way radio I think I would be with the
other big two AT&T or Verizon. So I hope there would be a price war I don't
want Nextel get there head to big that the one of the best in the market. I
think for us keeping our number great and I think it well keep all the
company's real I noticed Nextel plan's are not as good as last year so I
hope this will wake them up a bit. But as for me going to GSM I think I will
wait til all the gsm towers are set and when I can go to site everyone happy
about gsm then I would think about switching to GSM .
"Steven M. Scharf" <scharf.steven@linkearth.net> wrote in message
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> "Frank S" <Frank@REMOVEALLCAPSitcreek.com> wrote in message
> news:YqGdnczCKMOrhACiRVn-jg@giganews.com...
> > > I think that a lot of subscribers have matured and that they no
> > > longer look only at price, since so many have been burned by
> > > the carriers with lousy coverage (at least this applies to me and
> > > many colleagues and relatives).
> >
> > You know, it's funny, but I'll bet 99 percent of cell phone users
overall,
> > make 99 percent of their calls within their own metro city and hardly
> notice
> > the lousy coverage of some carriers outside of a metro area.
>
> Perhaps, but in large metro areas coverage is inconsistent throughout
> the area, and people do travel throughout the area. I.e. in my area,
> Verizon and AT&T TDMA have the best coverage by far, Cingular,
> T-Mobile, Sprint, Nextel, and AT&T GSM, the worst. But in each
> case you could find a location in the metro area where even the
> carriers with the worst coverage are okay, and you can find areas
> that the best carriers don't cover. I have only found one place
> where my Verizon phone can't at least get an analog signal--
> the East Palo Alto Ikea.
>
>

Group Special Mobile wrote:
>
> On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 17:37:04 -0500, poboxdc@ix.netcom.com wrote:
>
> >The carriers are always competing. The next "price wars" will
> >be during the Christmas holidays, that's when they will battle
> >for your business. I have had most of the carriers at one
> >time or another .... and some aren't worth having.
> >
> >ATT: I have them currently - fair to good. (8pm non-prime plan)
> >
> >Cingular: Coverage wasn't that good; kept losing the signal
> >
> >NEXTEL: Problems at the switch (phone co.) and the phone didn't
> >always ring. Direct connect worked very well.
> >
> >SPRINT-PCS: Probably the worst experience in my life!
> >
> >VERIZON: Never had service -- but I'm interested.
> >
> >VOICESTREAM: Who are they?
>
> If you've had them all why are you asking who they are?

Sheesh! Let's look again at what I actually wrote:

"I have had most of the carriers......."

Learn to read.

(KM)

In alt.cellular.verizon poboxdc@ix.netcom.com wrote:
>>
>> If you've had them all why are you asking who they are?
>
> Sheesh! Let's look again at what I actually wrote:
>
> "I have had most of the carriers......."

Voicestream was re-branded to T-Mobile by Deutsche Telekom a couple years
ago, shortly after they bought Voicestream. They were re-branded so that all
of DT's worldwide cellular companies operated under the same name.

Prior to that, VS had bought a number of smaller GSM carriers... the largest
of those being Aerial Communications.

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