Which Way Would You Jump?

> You might try the JABRA® FreeSpeakT BluetoothT Wireless Mobile Headset.
It
> works with non-BluetoothT mobile phones using the same multi-function
> holder/charger used for BluetoothT phones. This adapter would allow you
to
> stay with Verizon and use the phone in your car. It's sold at Radio Shack
> for $179.99. Catalog #17-976

The adapter will only connect to the associated JABRA headset.
It will not talk to other bluetooth devices.
It's like trying to make a camcorder with BT talk to a cell phone with BT.
It ain't gona work.

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On Sat, 22 Nov 2003 14:00:25 -0800, "Peter Pan" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>I can't understand the myopic view some people have, why not just buy the
>phone you want and activate it on your current service?

OK, show me a CDMA phone with Bluetooth Hands Free Profile(*) support that I can
activate on Verizon Wireless and I'll buy it today!

(*) No, not HEADSET profile - HANDS FREE profile. There is a difference!

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On Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:40:30 GMT, "Todd Allcock" <[email protected]> wrote:

>Couldn't you simply get one of those headset jack to bluetooth "transmitter"
>adapters that claim to allow you to "use a bluetooth headset on any phone!"
>I think CompUSA sells them.

I don't think it would provide full functionality. Check out
http://www.acurahandsfree.com - there's a lot more to it than just using the
car's microphone and speakers as a hands-free kit. The car can actually dial the
phone, and phone status information is displayed on the car's dashboard.

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On Sat, 22 Nov 2003 12:19:31 -0800, Steve Vai <[email protected]> wrote:

>On Sat, 22 Nov 2003 08:57:56 -0800, Scott in Aztlán
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Hands Free Link in my new Acura TL.
>
>is that kinda like that onstar commercial where the moron calls and
>says "what does the white button do?" and the lady says "for handsfree
>calling" and he nearly has an orgasm on the phone cause he can push a
>button and talk?

Kinda, only it doesn't involve a monthly subscription fee.

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Al Klein wrote:

> Depends on where you live, where you travel, what your usage pattern
> is, and who'd be the better carrier based on all those criteria. You
> DON'T choose the carrier based on the phone you can use on their
> network. (People who do tend to become disgruntled customers.)

I'm jumping to Cingular in January when my Sprint contract is up. I've
had no problems with Sprint, service is great...but I can go with
Cingular for almost half the monthly rate and still get network coverage
where I work now (Sprint goes into analog roaming). AT&T, Verizon, and
VoiceStream (T-Mobile) are out because they don't have local numbers in
my area.

Scott in Aztlán wrote:

>>is that kinda like that onstar commercial where the moron calls and
>>says "what does the white button do?" and the lady says "for handsfree
>>calling" and he nearly has an orgasm on the phone cause he can push a
>>button and talk?
>
>
> Kinda, only it doesn't involve a monthly subscription fee.
>

I haven't checked on that yet. Still trying to get the on-board
dash-mounted GPS to work on boyfriend's Mercedes SUV. But sales
rep said it was very expensive.

In alt.cellular.verizon Elmo P. Shagnasty <[email protected]> wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>,
> Steven J Sobol <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> If it was me, and I was choosing between Cingular and AT&T, there would be
>> no choice. I am 100% free of SBC now that I don't live in an area where they
>> are the ILEC, and I would never do business with them as they are a bunch of
>> thieving scumbags.
>
> And you think anyone else is better?

Did I say that?

> You're living in a dream world.
>
> Fact: you have to have telecom services. Fact: all telecom service
> providers are thieving scumbags.

I work on the Internet and used to do 40 hours/week of ISP tech
support. I already know that.

The other telcos, however, I don't have experience with, and some of them
may be somewhat better. I have the extreme pleasure of having had SBC
attempt to screw me personally, though.

> Ergo, fact: you WILL be doing business, by definition, with thieving
> scumbags. Period.

Nah, I used to have a Northcoast PCS cellphone and they aren't owned by
a telco. The company was, however, started by the principals of a cable
company (NYC's Cablevision) and the typical cable idiocy seemed to transfer
over to NCPCS, as they managed to completely hose certain parts of their
network within a year. The Dolans can't figure out how to run a cable
company, and apparently they haven't a clue about running a cellular carrier
either.

Your point is well taken. I do understand and agree with what you've said.
I just harbor a special dislike for SBC.

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On Sun, 23 Nov 2003 18:07:37 -0600, Steven J Sobol
<[email protected]> posted in alt.cellular.verizon:

>The Dolans can't figure out how to run a cable
>company, and apparently they haven't a clue about running a cellular carrier
>either.

But they sure know how to make money, don't they?

In alt.cellular.verizon Al Klein <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Sun, 23 Nov 2003 18:07:37 -0600, Steven J Sobol
> <[email protected]> posted in alt.cellular.verizon:
>
>>The Dolans can't figure out how to run a cable
>>company, and apparently they haven't a clue about running a cellular carrier
>>either.
>
> But they sure know how to make money, don't they?

Sure. When you have a monopoly on cable TV franchises in a given metro area,
it's easy. They had most of Cleveland before deciding to shrink the company
to the NYC area only; the suburbs for years, and then city-run North Coast
Cable after the city decided to get out of the cable TV business.

It should come as no surprise to any current or former Crapplevision
customers that they did nothing whatsoever with their network. Nothing.

Example: Cleveland is the 22nd largest city in the country, yet it was easier
for me to get cable Internet here in a relatively rural part of Apple Valley,
CA (population about 60,000 as opposed to a half-million in Cleveland)
than it was to get cable Internet from Cablevision. Actually - they didn't
have it, and refused to do a damned thing with their network in the late 90's
because they knew they were going to be leaving town. Adelphia finally put
cablemodems into Cleveland starting a couple years ago.

Then Chucky Dolan's brother Larry bought the Indians, fired one of the best
managers we've ever had, and is proceeding to drive the team into the ground
because he's a moron too.

And THEN, to bring this back on-topic, Northcoast PCS launched, and a year
after they launched, I couldn't make calls downtown or on the near-west side
on Interstate 90. "Oh, we have capacity problems, sir. It'll take about six
months before you'll see any improvement."

Screw that... I was carrying a Verizon phone anyhow (just used it for travel),
so I switched to using the Verizon phone fulltime.

Ok. Done ranting.

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On Sat, 22 Nov 2003 08:57:56 -0800, Scott in Aztlán
<[email protected]> wrote:

>I'm a generally happy Verizon Wireless customer who's tired of waiting for
>Verizon to get off its collective luddite ass and offer Bluetooth phones that
>work with the Hands Free Link in my new Acura TL. So I'm planning to make the
>jump to either AT&T or Cingular (or both, depending on how the acquisition deal
>plays out
>
>My question to you is, which way would you jump? Would you go with AT&T or
>Cingular? I'll most likely be picking up a T616 phone and a local/regional type
>service plan.

UPDATE: I signed up with Cingular today. My research, both on USENET and via
polling friends and co-workers, indicated that Cingular's GSM coverage is
probably better in the areas where I'll need it in SoCal. Cingular was also
perfectly happy to sell me a T616 phone with a month-to-month service plan, plus
I've heard that they will also give you the unlock codes if you buy an
unsubsidized phone (although I have not yet tested this theory). So far so good
on the coverage, and the phone pairs and works beautifully with the Bluetooth
Hands Free Link in my Acura TL.

Thanks to everyone who offered their advice and assistance, I really appreciate
your input.

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