Gosh, Z600 suck in terms of size!

Whytoi wrote:
>
> In article <[email protected]>, Mal
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > At first glance I think it looks big too, but out of my friends who have
> > them, none complain about the size and make similar remarks to the ones
> > already listed.
>
> Not suspecting bias in those assessments? Size clearly is a considered
> issue for anyone who decides to buy one. So to ask decided buyers, a
> selected group, is not all that valid.

No, I think it shows that even though the phone looks big that it's not
*huge* or an unmanageable size.

These friends have chosen it for the size/feature tradeoff, and seem
quite happy with it. These aren't people who leave it in their
briefcase/handbag/car all day either!

Obviously for them it isn't too big a phone. It fits their needs.

I don't own one, nor am I buying one. The phone doesn't suit my needs,
nor (obviously) does it suit yours!

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"Whytoi" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> In article <[email protected]>, Kevin Reilly
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > On Sun, 4 Jan 2004 Pete wrote:
> >
> > >And when closed, it sits comfortably in my pocket. I guess the key
issue
> > >apart from size is weight, and I don't think anyone can criticize it's
> > >weight - it's so light, that even at it's size, you bearly feel it.
> > >
> > >And for me, it seems really sturdy and firm. Very confident closing
sound
> > >and feel, and I've played with some flimsy flip phones in my time -
this one
> > >tops the list.
> >
> > You've hit the nail on the head with those two paragraphs. It's a
> > comfortable size for use, can be slipped into an otherwise empty pocket
> > with little risk of damage (unlike various 'smartphones' with their
> > vulnerable screens) but, more importantly, it FEELS strong enough to be
> > slipped into a pocket without risk of damage. A perfect balance between
> > function and strength.
>
> That's an oxymoron of an answer. What's a comfortable size for the
> pocket? One that _fills_ the pocket? Or one that is small and can be
> carried in your pocket unobtrusively?
>

It's plain english - fits into my pocket comfortably. It's rounded shape
doesn't jab into my leg when I'm sitting and it's far from bulky.

It IS very subjective and everyone will have their own opinion. Don't bust
my balls for having my say. If you don't find it comfortable, just say so
and move on.

Cheers,
Pete


> If that's a valid criteria, why hasn't many gone back to the old
> Motorola Startec flip phones?

You tell me?

On Tue, 6 Jan 2004 Mal wrote:

>Japanese phones (CDMA2000 or something?) have always been pretty small,
>but I believe that is because of technological differences with the
>frequencies involved and a different range of features required.

And the fact that the Japanese have smaller hands! I'm not being
facetious; some of the phones I saw when I was over there would never
work in the European or US markets because we wouldn't be able to press
the buttons with anything bigger than a pinkie fingernail. I borrowed a
Japanese friend's cheap 'n' cheerful "quite bulky" cell phone one
afternoon and it was still half the size of anything I'd seen over here.

What's really crazy is that a few years ago even the Japanese became
disillusioned with the impracticalities of using ever more tiny phones,
and several companies launched large plug-in handsets that attached to
the cellphone but were of a more practical size for holding. Some were
novelty items shaped like fruit or Manga characters, but one or two
looked like good old-fashioned 'dog bone' analogue phone handsets. Talk
about full circle. And still the cellphones themselves got smaller.
Insanity.

As for the Z600, once the basic considerations are met I place strength
above style. Sure, the thing's a bit fat when it's closed and no doubt a
good design engineer could get the depth down to half or even less of
what it is now. But while I suspect that the Z600 could survive quite a
large weight being accidentally applied to it while in a pocket (use any
scenario you can imagine!), I'm not sure the same would be true for a
slimmer, flimsier design.

--
Kev
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"Look at Jesus. He was a normal run of the mill sort of guy who had a
genuine gift..." Glenn Hoddle

Whytoi - typed:
> In article <[email protected]>, Mal
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> At first glance I think it looks big too, but out of my friends who
>> have them, none complain about the size and make similar remarks to
>> the ones already listed.
>
> Not suspecting bias in those assessments? Size clearly is a considered
> issue for anyone who decides to buy one. So to ask decided buyers, a
> selected group, is not all that valid.

But valid in the respect that many had initial reservations about the
size & found it not to be a problem.
I've just been informed by the Terminology Police that the Z600/300 are
clamshell phones I wish SE *did* make a flip phone! Long live the
T39.

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The map is not the territory

"Thorolv Valentinsen" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "Whytoi" <[email protected]> skrev i melding
> news:030120042331501939%[email protected]...
> > Finally laid my hand on a Z600 here after much anticipation for the
> > return of a flip phone to S/E line up...
> >
> > Gosh, it's so big compared with T610 and other flips from Korean brands!
> >
> > I was so disappointed by the physical dimension of the unit. Given the
> > choice, I would grudgingly take the T610.
> >
> > So what was SE thinking in designing this Z600?!?
>
>
> The way Volvos were designed some years ago, that's what! Or maybe a
brick.


"Volvo: Boxy but good!"
(gratuitious reference to the movie Crazy People, Dudley Moore was the ad
man committed to a insane asylum after coming up with truthful slogans)

> Apart from that, and the fact it doesn't come with a VGA camera, the Z600
> seems to be a great phone.
>
> Cheers,
>
>
> Thorolv Valentinsen

I'm really happy with my Z600, it's the first clam shell phone I've owned. I
found the size/weight/feel perfect for me, compared to the other clamshell
units I looked at..

Chris

Get used to it. All the new clam-shell phones with the same capability will
be larger than the Z600.


"Chris H" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "Thorolv Valentinsen" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:d_XJb.6216$7U1.65589@amstwist00...
> >
> > "Whytoi" <[email protected]> skrev i melding
> > news:030120042331501939%[email protected]...
> > > Finally laid my hand on a Z600 here after much anticipation for the
> > > return of a flip phone to S/E line up...
> > >
> > > Gosh, it's so big compared with T610 and other flips from Korean
brands!
> > >
> > > I was so disappointed by the physical dimension of the unit. Given the
> > > choice, I would grudgingly take the T610.
> > >
> > > So what was SE thinking in designing this Z600?!?
> >
> >
> > The way Volvos were designed some years ago, that's what! Or maybe a
> brick.
>
>
> "Volvo: Boxy but good!"
> (gratuitious reference to the movie Crazy People, Dudley Moore was the ad
> man committed to a insane asylum after coming up with truthful slogans)
>
> > Apart from that, and the fact it doesn't come with a VGA camera, the
Z600
> > seems to be a great phone.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> >
> > Thorolv Valentinsen
>
> I'm really happy with my Z600, it's the first clam shell phone I've owned.
I
> found the size/weight/feel perfect for me, compared to the other clamshell
> units I looked at..
>
> Chris
>
>

Sony Ericsson themselves have explained that the target demographic for the
Z600 is professional males, aged 25-45. This demographic requires a phone
with a good sized keyboard which can expect extremely frequent use. The
dinky little Samsungs and LGs are very pretty but lack any functional appeal
if your hands are any larger than those of Peter Pan!

I was a big fan of the R520 for the very same reason - good keyboard where
you were reasonably sure to hit the right button on every occasion and as a
long time Ericsson user I think that the Z600 has hit the spot.


> Get used to it. All the new clam-shell phones with the same capability
will
> be larger than the Z600.
>
> > > > Finally laid my hand on a Z600 here after much anticipation for the
> > > > return of a flip phone to S/E line up...
> > > >
> > > > Gosh, it's so big compared with T610 and other flips from Korean
> brands!
> > > >
> > > > I was so disappointed by the physical dimension of the unit. Given
the
> > > > choice, I would grudgingly take the T610.
> > > >
> > > > So what was SE thinking in designing this Z600?!?
> > >
> > >
> > > The way Volvos were designed some years ago, that's what! Or maybe a
> > brick.
> >
> >
> > "Volvo: Boxy but good!"
> > (gratuitious reference to the movie Crazy People, Dudley Moore was the
ad
> > man committed to a insane asylum after coming up with truthful slogans)
> >
> > > Apart from that, and the fact it doesn't come with a VGA camera, the
> Z600
> > > seems to be a great phone.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > >
> > >
> > > Thorolv Valentinsen
> >
> > I'm really happy with my Z600, it's the first clam shell phone I've
owned.
> I
> > found the size/weight/feel perfect for me, compared to the other
clamshell
> > units I looked at..
> >
> > Chris
> >
> >
>
>