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Old 06-03-2004, 09:50 AM   #1
Charles O'Brian
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Initiate call using the cell phone's contact list ?


hi there ,
is it possible for a bluetooth-enabled device (headset) to initiate a
direct call using say the first entry in the cell phone list of
contacts, rather than using a voice recognition software. I am not
asking if this exists or not, but if it is technically possible, given
the Bluetooth specifications. Maybe you techie bluetooth people have
an answer.

Charles


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Old 06-03-2004, 02:26 PM   #2
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Charles O'Brian wrote:

> hi there ,
> is it possible for a bluetooth-enabled device (headset) to initiate a
> direct call using say the first entry in the cell phone list of
> contacts, rather than using a voice recognition software. I am not
> asking if this exists or not, but if it is technically possible, given
> the Bluetooth specifications. Maybe you techie bluetooth people have
> an answer.
>
> Charles


The handsfree profile certainly allows this to happen.

How would you control this from a headset? How is this better than
assigning voice tages to those same numbers?
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Old 06-04-2004, 08:25 AM   #3
Charles O'Brian
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Imagine the only person you communicate with is your wife. In other
words, is it possible (feasible) for a bluetooth headset to turn on
the cell, dial a default number (the wife's number) and start the
communication, all by pressing a button on the headset ? Maybe this is
not the way bluetooth headsets operate now, but I am wondering if this
is even feasible.

I don't own a bluetooth headset with voice recognition, so please
forgive my lack of knowledge on the subject. By the way, does one has
to manually open the cell phone, turn it on, and speak the person's
name before the call actually starts, or is all of this taken care of
by the headset signal ? In other words, can you leave the cell phone
in your pocket and still initiate a call using the headset alone ?

pzboyz <pzboyz@NOSPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message news:<3PLvc.10904$NK4.1438200@stones.force9.net>.. .
> Charles O'Brian wrote:
>
> > hi there ,
> > is it possible for a bluetooth-enabled device (headset) to initiate a
> > direct call using say the first entry in the cell phone list of
> > contacts, rather than using a voice recognition software. I am not
> > asking if this exists or not, but if it is technically possible, given
> > the Bluetooth specifications. Maybe you techie bluetooth people have
> > an answer.
> >
> > Charles

>
> The handsfree profile certainly allows this to happen.
>
> How would you control this from a headset? How is this better than
> assigning voice tages to those same numbers?

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Old 06-04-2004, 09:51 AM   #4
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> I don't own a bluetooth headset with voice recognition, so please
> forgive my lack of knowledge on the subject. By the way, does one has
> to manually open the cell phone, turn it on, and speak the person's
> name before the call actually starts, or is all of this taken care of
> by the headset signal ? In other words, can you leave the cell phone
> in your pocket and still initiate a call using the headset alone ?
>


I cannot answer to you initial question,
but I own a bluetooth headset,
the voice recognition is demanded to the phone,
so I can answer to you latest questions (it seems to me
to be different from previous..)

I can leave the phone in my pocket with bluetooth on.
I push the only button on the headset,
(the headset tell to the phone that I want to do a call)
I hear a bip,
I tell the name of the people I want to call,
The phone try to recognize the name.

If the name is recognized , tha call is initiate.

If the name is not recognized I heard some bips.

Finally: I can make a call only using a button
on my headset PLUS telling a name.


For your first question, if it is possible to make the call
by associating the button and a unique number,
I really dont' know..

bye
idef
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Old 06-04-2004, 01:32 PM   #5
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idef wrote:
>
> For your first question, if it is possible to make the call
> by associating the button and a unique number,
> I really dont' know..
>


Yes this is possible too. But there is no headset today that will do this.
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Old 06-04-2004, 09:13 PM   #6
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In alt.cellular.bluetooth pzboyz <pzboyz@nospamyahoo.com> wrote:
> idef wrote:
> >
> > For your first question, if it is possible to make the call
> > by associating the button and a unique number,
> > I really dont' know..
> >


> Yes this is possible too. But there is no headset today that will do this.


I've also posted to alt.cellular.gsm on this but it would be nice if
some handset which had bluetooth also could dial digits. Look at the
Mortorola v60 color. It claims to do this, but it's not bluetooth and
it's not GSM. I guess the voice recognition just isn't there yet, but I
can dream. The Sendo X (look at phonescoop) looks as close as we'll
get.


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Old 06-06-2004, 04:40 PM   #7
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Mark E. Daniel - typed:
> In alt.cellular.bluetooth pzboyz <pzboyz@nospamyahoo.com> wrote:
>> idef wrote:
>>>
>>> For your first question, if it is possible to make the call
>>> by associating the button and a unique number,
>>> I really dont' know..
>>>

>
>> Yes this is possible too. But there is no headset today that will do
>> this.

>
> I've also posted to alt.cellular.gsm on this but it would be nice if
> some handset which had bluetooth also could dial digits. Look at the
> Mortorola v60 color. It claims to do this, but it's not bluetooth and
> it's not GSM. I guess the voice recognition just isn't there yet,
> but I can dream. The Sendo X (look at phonescoop) looks as close as
> we'll
> get.


I've also wanted voice dialling of numbers. It would be fairly simple to
implement. The problem I have with voice dialling either on my T610 or
HBH-15 is that's it's not reliable enough. IMO, adding a unique call
button to headsets might even require adding another profile & IMO,
there isn't enough demand for just a single number, especially with
voice dialling to do this far more flexibly (when it works).

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Old 06-07-2004, 08:04 AM   #8
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"~ Q ~" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message news:<2ihkqrFn7oecU1@uni-berlin.de>...
> Mark E. Daniel - typed:
> > In alt.cellular.bluetooth pzboyz <pzboyz@nospamyahoo.com> wrote:
> >> idef wrote:
> >>>
> >>> For your first question, if it is possible to make the call
> >>> by associating the button and a unique number,
> >>> I really dont' know..
> >>>

>
> >> Yes this is possible too. But there is no headset today that will do
> >> this.

> >
> > I've also posted to alt.cellular.gsm on this but it would be nice if
> > some handset which had bluetooth also could dial digits. Look at the
> > Mortorola v60 color. It claims to do this, but it's not bluetooth and
> > it's not GSM. I guess the voice recognition just isn't there yet,
> > but I can dream. The Sendo X (look at phonescoop) looks as close as
> > we'll
> > get.

>
> I've also wanted voice dialling of numbers. It would be fairly simple to
> implement. The problem I have with voice dialling either on my T610 or
> HBH-15 is that's it's not reliable enough. IMO, adding a unique call
> button to headsets might even require adding another profile & IMO,
> there isn't enough demand for just a single number, especially with
> voice dialling to do this far more flexibly (when it works).


I've got 'Wilfire' as my answerfone on Orange and 'she' can dial
numbers for me if I speak numbers to her.

Also my handsfree profile (Jabra BT250 / T610) enables automatic
dialing of the last number dialed

DPat
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Old 06-07-2004, 06:09 PM   #9
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Is the voice recognition program running in the cellphone microchips,
or locally on a chip that is in the headset ? (whether people's names
or digits)

dpat@despammed.com (DPat) wrote in message news:<525a1b14.0406070604.26760357@posting.google. com>...
> "~ Q ~" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message news:<2ihkqrFn7oecU1@uni-berlin.de>...
> > Mark E. Daniel - typed:
> > > In alt.cellular.bluetooth pzboyz <pzboyz@nospamyahoo.com> wrote:
> > >> idef wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> For your first question, if it is possible to make the call
> > >>> by associating the button and a unique number,
> > >>> I really dont' know..
> > >>>

>
> > >> Yes this is possible too. But there is no headset today that will do
> > >> this.
> > >
> > > I've also posted to alt.cellular.gsm on this but it would be nice if
> > > some handset which had bluetooth also could dial digits. Look at the
> > > Mortorola v60 color. It claims to do this, but it's not bluetooth and
> > > it's not GSM. I guess the voice recognition just isn't there yet,
> > > but I can dream. The Sendo X (look at phonescoop) looks as close as
> > > we'll
> > > get.

> >
> > I've also wanted voice dialling of numbers. It would be fairly simple to
> > implement. The problem I have with voice dialling either on my T610 or
> > HBH-15 is that's it's not reliable enough. IMO, adding a unique call
> > button to headsets might even require adding another profile & IMO,
> > there isn't enough demand for just a single number, especially with
> > voice dialling to do this far more flexibly (when it works).

>
> I've got 'Wilfire' as my answerfone on Orange and 'she' can dial
> numbers for me if I speak numbers to her.
>
> Also my handsfree profile (Jabra BT250 / T610) enables automatic
> dialing of the last number dialed
>
> DPat

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Old 06-08-2004, 03:42 AM   #10
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charlesobrian2@yahoo.com (Charles O'Brian) wrote in message news:<d98d206a.0406071609.11dad949@posting.google. com>...
> Is the voice recognition program running in the cellphone microchips,
> or locally on a chip that is in the headset ? (whether people's names
> or digits)
>
> dpat@despammed.com (DPat) wrote in messag
> > news:<525a1b14.0406070604.26760357@posting.google. com>...
> > I've got 'Wilfire' as my answerfone on Orange and 'she' can dial
> > numbers for me if I speak numbers to her.
> >
> > Also my handsfree profile (Jabra BT250 / T610) enables automatic
> > dialing of the last number dialed
> >
> > DPat


Wildfire is a service provide by Orange, the voice recognition
actually runs on a a server, it is a number you dial normally on a GSM
handset. Noy sure though if this service is offered to new subsribers.

pzboyz
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Old 06-09-2004, 08:49 AM   #11
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pzboyz@yahoo.com (pzboyz) wrote in message news:<c03869cb.0406080142.3c64134e@posting.google. com>...
> charlesobrian2@yahoo.com (Charles O'Brian) wrote in message news:<d98d206a.0406071609.11dad949@posting.google. com>...
> > Is the voice recognition program running in the cellphone microchips,
> > or locally on a chip that is in the headset ? (whether people's names
> > or digits)
> >
> > dpat@despammed.com (DPat) wrote in messag
> > > news:<525a1b14.0406070604.26760357@posting.google. com>...
> > > I've got 'Wilfire' as my answerfone on Orange and 'she' can dial
> > > numbers for me if I speak numbers to her.
> > >
> > > Also my handsfree profile (Jabra BT250 / T610) enables automatic
> > > dialing of the last number dialed
> > >
> > > DPat

>
> Wildfire is a service provide by Orange, the voice recognition
> actually runs on a a server, it is a number you dial normally on a GSM
> handset. Noy sure though if this service is offered to new subsribers.
>
> pzboyz


You're right, not available to new subscribers, but the replacement
will be available 'soon' (that's soon since Feb '04!)

DPat
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Old 06-14-2004, 07:22 PM   #12
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On Thu, 03 Jun 2004 21:26:20 +0100, pzboyz wrote:

> Charles O'Brian wrote:
>
>> hi there ,
>> is it possible for a bluetooth-enabled device (headset) to initiate a
>> direct call using say the first entry in the cell phone list of
>> contacts, rather than using a voice recognition software. I am not
>> asking if this exists or not, but if it is technically possible, given
>> the Bluetooth specifications. Maybe you techie bluetooth people have
>> an answer.
>>
>> Charles

>
> The handsfree profile certainly allows this to happen.
>
> How would you control this from a headset?


The SonyEricsson HBH200 BT headset which I use can do this no problem.

> How is this better than
> assigning voice tages to those same numbers?


Because voice tags ain't always reliable, especially if you're in a noisy
area, like a busy street. This is why I chose the HBH200 headset.

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Old 06-14-2004, 07:24 PM   #13
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On Thu, 03 Jun 2004 08:50:11 -0700, Charles O'Brian wrote:

> hi there ,
> is it possible for a bluetooth-enabled device (headset) to initiate a
> direct call using say the first entry in the cell phone list of
> contacts, rather than using a voice recognition software. I am not
> asking if this exists or not, but if it is technically possible, given
> the Bluetooth specifications. Maybe you techie bluetooth people have
> an answer.


SonyEricsson HBH200, it's got a built-in screen which shows your phone's
call-list, and can scroll thru it.

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