Bluetooth Aiutoooooo

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In <[email protected]> on Thu, 11 Nov 2004 10:22:34 -0000,
"guns4jesus" <[email protected]> wrote:

>> Please use English in international forums
>
>english = international? NO
>
>international = english? NO

Actually YES -- ask any pilot, or member of other international professions.

>you ignorant man

You rude person.

>[SNIP other childish rudeness]

Crossposting:

International -- English should be used:
alt.cellular.ericsson

Italian -- Italian should be used:
free.it.cellulari.ericsson
free.it.cellulari.sonyericsson
free.it.cellulari.umts

The issue is the non-English crossposting to alt.cellular.ericsson -- better
to make a separate post in English.

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Are you two married?

On Tue, 09 Nov 2004 02:29:05 GMT, "Mikelats"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>>>Looks like you're all set! Best of luck, and let us know how it turns
>>>out.
>
>You've got that backwards yet again.
>

I think we're just going steady.

In <[email protected]> on Thu, 11 Nov 2004 19:30:26
+0000, [email protected] wrote:

>Are you two married?
>
>On Tue, 09 Nov 2004 02:29:05 GMT, "Mikelats"
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>>>Looks like you're all set! Best of luck, and let us know how it turns
>>>>out.
>>
>>You've got that backwards yet again.
>>

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> Actually YES -- ask any pilot, or member of other international
professions.

I did ask a pilot andhe said you were talking b*llocks.

> You rude person.

You are a xenophobic man and you assume me to be rude? Actually, I am rather
blunt but only when faced with nasty people like you. Is this your idea of
being welcoming, kind and friendly - "speak our language or f*ck off?"


> >[SNIP other childish rudeness]

Childish? Maybe we should go for a beer and talk about it like men?

> The issue is the non-English crossposting to alt.cellular.ericsson --
better
> to make a separate post in English.

The group has no FAQ as far as I can see so I could really post a picture of
my a*se on here in ASCII format and you could legitimately say I had done
anything wrong. Or is this simply a case of "Stop the world - John Dolt
wants to get off?"

Tell us John Dolt. Do you want to take over the world?

Weirdo!

Just so you know. I appreciate that while there is no FAQ we should be
responsible and and sensible in our posting in this group. If you don't
speak Italian then don't respond to the post. Any person able to respond to
that post will do so. Your post was a total waste of time and served only to
put people like myself on the defensive. The result being this childish
thread which has f*ck all to do with mobile phones. By the way, seriously, I
have a T68i and a couple of T610s and a sync station (which has successfully
upgraded my K700) - will this station upgrade the other phones and f so is
the upgrade online like the K700 version?

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In <[email protected]> on Fri, 12 Nov 2004 09:33:07 -0000,
"guns4jesus" <[email protected]> wrote:

>> Actually YES -- ask any pilot, or member of other international
>professions.
>
>I did ask a pilot andhe said you were talking b*llocks.

Air Line Pilot, September/October 2002, p. 29
By Brian Day, ICAO Secretariat

After a number of major accident investigations highlighted a lack of
proficiency in the English language among flight crews and air
traffic controllers, the International Civil Aviation Organization
resolved in 1998 to take steps to ensure that personnel required to
conduct radiotelephony communications in the English language comply
with a required level of language proficiency.

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U.S. Department of Transportation Federal Aviation Administration
Advisory Circular AC 60-28

Subject: English Language Skill Standards

1. PURPOSE. This advisory circular (AC) provides guidance for airman
applicants, training organizations, designated examiners, and
aviation safety inspectors in determining English language skills
required for airman certification under Title 14 of the Code of
Federal Regulations (14 CFR) parts 6 1, 63, and 65.

2. BACKGROUND. There are distinct regulatory English language
requirements in 14 CFR part 6 I for pilots, and flight and ground
instructors; part 63, for flight navigators and flight engineers; and
part 65, for dispatchers, mechanics, repairmen, and parachute
riggers.

a. Part 61 requires that pilots, and flight and ground instructors
must be able to read, write, speak, and understand the English
language. If the applicant cannot meet these requirements of English
fluency, an airman certificate cannot be issued. For medical reasons,
an appropriate limitation may be placed on the certificate.

Apology accepted

>[SNIP childish ranting]

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[pointless rant about pilots snipped]

you did not answer any of my points john dolt

where in the faqs for this group does it state you must speak english?

if you think i would apologise to a maggot like you then you must be
mentally ill (it was my first suspiscion to be honest)

oh, and btw, dont snip john dolt, answer people when they talk

when you do snip all the relevant bits it makes you look completely
ignorant - furthering my believe that you are a bigot

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In <[email protected]> on Mon, 15 Nov 2004 08:53:15 -0000,
"guns4jesus" <[email protected]> wrote:

>[pointless rant about pilots snipped]
>
>you did not answer any of my points john dolt
>[SNIP]

I could find no meaningful points, and I gave your continued rudeness more
attention than it deserves.

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Okay John.

I do apologise for my previous posts. I am not normally a rude person John
but just to prove a point I feel I had to be. The point is that in this
international FAQ-less group anyone can post in any language they like.

The poster :

In this case a valid assumption would be that the poster does not speak
English. This however does not invalidate the posters right to post to this
international group in Italian.

Your response :

You may well have wanted to help this person. The problem is that you
started you assistance by assuming the person spoke English - "Please use
English in international forums" - this was seen by some people, sauch as
myself, as inappropriate due to the fact that the poster probably does not
speak English and as such would probably not have understood your response.
If, however, you had taken the time to translate your response via one of
the many, free translators online and posted it then you would have been
half correct at most. This then poses the question, if you really wanted to
help this person, why not tranlate his text in a translator and then
respond?

John, my conclusion is that the guy wrote in Italian because he does not
speak English. He thought he may spread his bets and give it a go in an
International newsgroup. Not a Belgium, Danish, Arabic or American newsgroup
but an International one. No crime there John. Especially considering there
is no FAQ.

I will view any response you may have John, but as far as I am concerned
that matter is closed. Best to agree to disagree if that is the case. And
once again, sorry if I had offended you in previous posts.

Have a good day.

Martin

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In <[email protected]> on Tue, 16 Nov 2004 09:25:14 -0000,
"guns4jesus" <[email protected]> wrote:

>I do apologise for my previous posts.

Accepted. I likewise apologize any offense.

>I am not normally a rude person John
>but just to prove a point I feel I had to be.

With all due respect, I think rudeness tends to be counterproductive, as it
was in this case.

>In this case a valid assumption would be that the poster does not speak
>English.

With all due respect, I see no basis for that assumption -- we have no
information one way or the other. My own assumption is that the original post
was probably in Italian because all but one of the newsgroups were Italian.

>This however does not invalidate the posters right to post to this
>international group in Italian.

The ability is not in and of itself a right, but that's not the point.

>Your response :
>
>You may well have wanted to help this person. The problem is that you
>started you assistance by assuming the person spoke English - "Please use
>English in international forums" - this was seen by some people, sauch as
>myself, as inappropriate due to the fact that the poster probably does not
>speak English and as such would probably not have understood your response.
>If, however, you had taken the time to translate your response via one of
>the many, free translators online and posted it then you would have been
>half correct at most. This then poses the question, if you really wanted to
>help this person, why not tranlate his text in a translator and then
>respond?

That wasn't my response. I first wrote:

Please use English in international forums.

I later wrote:

International -- English should be used:
alt.cellular.ericsson

Italian -- Italian should be used:
free.it.cellulari.ericsson
free.it.cellulari.sonyericsson
free.it.cellulari.umts

The issue is the non-English crossposting to alt.cellular.ericsson --
better to make a separate post in English.

>John, my conclusion is that the guy wrote in Italian because he does not
>speak English. He thought he may spread his bets and give it a go in an
>International newsgroup. Not a Belgium, Danish, Arabic or American newsgroup
>but an International one. No crime there John. Especially considering there
>is no FAQ.

The newsgroup name is in English.

>I will view any response you may have John, but as far as I am concerned
>that matter is closed. Best to agree to disagree if that is the case. And
>once again, sorry if I had offended you in previous posts.

Likewise.

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"Antonio" <[email protected]> ha scritto nel messaggio
news[email protected]...

> Salve c'è qualcuno che mi puo aiutare per favore, ho z1010 nn riesco a
> congifurare il bluetooth tramite il mio pc portatile, ho come sistema
> operativo xp.

Does your PC have integrated bluetooth or are u using an external dongle?

BT gets installed as a suite of "BT network services", whose details and
icons may vary according to the manufacturer. You start by searching for BT
peripherals and pairing them, before u can use them.

> poi scusatemi ma cosa posso fare con questo sistema bluetooth??

Every BT peripheral offers to other devices a number of services according
to its very nature. From your PC you will have access to the following on
the phone terminal : audio services (as if yr PC were a Bluetooth headset),
file services (files, pictures and audio files inside yr phone), serial
interface rs232 services (you telephone acting as a modem etc).

> fatemi sapere.... sono disperato e da poco che
> ho comprato questo cell.. grazie 1000 a presto by....Lello

It this phone makes u feel sick, resell it asap and buy yourself a simpler
one.

ciao

LOL
Wow, John Navas. The same Navas from Dublin? I remember you from back
in the modem/BBS days!

John Navas <[email protected]> encoded:

>I think we're just going steady.
>
>In <[email protected]> on Thu, 11 Nov 2004 19:30:26
>+0000, [email protected] wrote:
>
>>Are you two married?
>>
>>On Tue, 09 Nov 2004 02:29:05 GMT, "Mikelats"
>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>>>Looks like you're all set! Best of luck, and let us know how it turns
>>>>>out.
>>>
>>>You've got that backwards yet again.
>>>

The One and Only.

In <[email protected]> on Tue, 23 Nov 2004 09:56:20
-0800, heyman <[email protected]> wrote:

>LOL
>Wow, John Navas. The same Navas from Dublin? I remember you from back
>in the modem/BBS days!
>
> John Navas <[email protected]> encoded:
>
>>I think we're just going steady.
>>
>>In <[email protected]> on Thu, 11 Nov 2004 19:30:26
>>+0000, [email protected] wrote:
>>
>>>Are you two married?
>>>
>>>On Tue, 09 Nov 2004 02:29:05 GMT, "Mikelats"
>>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>Looks like you're all set! Best of luck, and let us know how it turns
>>>>>>out.
>>>>
>>>>You've got that backwards yet again.
>>>>

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